Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED

Danno · 01-06-2017, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Smeone had to get in his ear. No way he thought this on his own.

You're still posting?
I'd much rather hear from a Saints fan.

I thought you said you were done?

spkb25 · 01-06-2017, 08:40 PM

Anyone who doesn't think Sean's job is on the line, bull****. This is proof it is. This is one of the last moves coaches make to try and get a different result before their ass is thrown out. This was done because he had no choice, management is not happy with the results. Get better is what they just told him.

saintfan · 01-06-2017, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Anyone who doesn't think Sean's job is on the line, bull****. This is proof it is. This is one of the last moves coaches make to try and get a different result before their ass is thrown out. This was done because he had no choice, management is not happy with the results. Get better is what they just told him.

Maybe. I tend to think this is because the time of Drew Brees making us all but instant contenders regardless of who else is on the field is coming to an end. Sooner than later it is coming to an end.

jnormand · 01-06-2017, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Anyone who doesn't think Sean's job is on the line, bull****. This is proof it is. This is one of the last moves coaches make to try and get a different result before their ass is thrown out. This was done because he had no choice, management is not happy with the results. Get better is what they just told him.

We agree on something! Finally! Lol

AsylumGuido · 01-07-2017, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Anyone who doesn't think Sean's job is on the line, bull****. This is proof it is. This is one of the last moves coaches make to try and get a different result before their ass is thrown out. This was done because he had no choice, management is not happy with the results. Get better is what they just told him.

Totally disagree. Benson and Loomis both feel Payton can walk on water. This was a difficult decision that Payton made all on his own. He isn't stupid. He can see the same thing we all could see. He desperately wants the Saints to be a factor again and he knows that Vitt, McMahon and Johnson were all failing at making that happen. The ownership/management/HC relationship in New Orleans is unique. You cannot make assumptions based upon what other franchises would do. Sean brought a championship to the Bensons and they will never forget that fact. He has a job with the Saints for as long as he wishes.

It was Payton that was clearly not happy with the results. He didn't need anyone to tell him the Saints need to get better. Anyone who thinks that isn't the case, bull****.

spkb25 · 01-07-2017, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Totally disagree. Benson and Loomis both feel Payton can walk on water. This was a difficult decision that Payton made all on his own. He isn't stupid. He can see the same thing we all could see. He desperately wants the Saints to be a factor again and he knows that Vitt, McMahon and Johnson were all failing at making that happen. The ownership/management/HC relationship in New Orleans is unique. You cannot make assumptions based upon what other franchises would do. Sean brought a championship to the Bensons and they will never forget that fact. He has a job with the Saints for as long as he wishes.

It was Payton that was clearly not happy with the results. He didn't need anyone to tell him the Saints need to get better. Anyone who thinks that isn't the case, bull****.

The are losing their patience with Low Energy. He either starts winning or his ass is next. The SB was a nice treat, nearly a decade ago. LMAO!

WillSaints81 · 01-11-2017, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Anyone who doesn't think Sean's job is on the line, bull****. This is proof it is. This is one of the last moves coaches make to try and get a different result before their ass is thrown out. This was done because he had no choice, management is not happy with the results. Get better is what they just told him.

Who's over Sean?

44Champs · 01-06-2017, 11:05 PM

Maybe Brees was the one that got in Loomis's and SP's ear

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halloween 65 · 01-07-2017, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by 44Champs

Maybe Brees was the one that got in Loomis's and SP's ear

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That comment Brees made was my first thought when the good ole boys finally got their a$$ fired. Or maybe, just maybe Payton read my post finally. If so he needs to keep reading them.

jeanpierre · 01-07-2017, 12:10 AM

The selection of Stephone Anthony was the best thing that could have happen to address the long-standing problem of linebacker coaching during Payton's tenure...

I caught hell when I first broached Vitt being a handicap on this site three plus years ago...

But when Anthony was selected and regressed in his second year and Allen had to take over midseason, the events had to transpire the way they did...

Vitt, an older guy, self-professed old-school guy has never worked well with rookies - and that goes against what Payton has been when he's been successful - taking what you have, coaching and scheming to strengths and maximizing potential...

I've been asking, challenging those that disagreed to name a linebacker Vitt has developed and got the general response that we hadn't committed a first or second round talent for him...

Despite having multiple picks which Vitt (and now Joey Jr.) undoubtedly had input into their draft selection and didn't even develop a solid player from, Vitt finally had exhausted his excuses with a pick like Anthony who had such high anticipation and expectations and a promising rookie year...

Now it's on Payton/Loomis and Dennis Allen to staff assistants who'll get the best of the deepest defensive front seven personnel group we've had in Payton's tenure...

01-06-2017, 08:01 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Smeone had to get in his ear. No way he thought this on his own. You're still posting? I'd much rather hear from a Saints fan. I thought you said you were done? AsylumGuido, The Dude, SASaintsfan and 1 others like this.

01-06-2017, 08:40 PM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Anyone who doesn't think Sean's job is on the line, bull****. This is proof it is. This is one of the last moves coaches make to try and get a different result before their ass is thrown out. This was done because he had no choice, management is not happy with the results. Get better is what they just told him. jnormand likes this.

01-06-2017, 10:07 PM	#3
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by spkb25 Anyone who doesn't think Sean's job is on the line, bull****. This is proof it is. This is one of the last moves coaches make to try and get a different result before their ass is thrown out. This was done because he had no choice, management is not happy with the results. Get better is what they just told him. Maybe. I tend to think this is because the time of Drew Brees making us all but instant contenders regardless of who else is on the field is coming to an end. Sooner than later it is coming to an end.

01-06-2017, 11:43 PM	#4
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,769	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by spkb25 Anyone who doesn't think Sean's job is on the line, bull****. This is proof it is. This is one of the last moves coaches make to try and get a different result before their ass is thrown out. This was done because he had no choice, management is not happy with the results. Get better is what they just told him. We agree on something! Finally! Lol

01-07-2017, 10:19 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,674	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by spkb25 Anyone who doesn't think Sean's job is on the line, bull**. This is proof it is. This is one of the last moves coaches make to try and get a different result before their ass is thrown out. This was done because he had no choice, management is not happy with the results. Get better is what they just told him. Totally disagree. Benson and Loomis both feel Payton can walk on water. This was a difficult decision that Payton made all on his own. He isn't stupid. He can see the same thing we all could see. He desperately wants the Saints to be a factor again and he knows that Vitt, McMahon and Johnson were all failing at making that happen. The ownership/management/HC relationship in New Orleans is unique. You cannot make assumptions based upon what other franchises would do. Sean brought a championship to the Bensons and they will never forget that fact. He has a job with the Saints for as long as he wishes. It was Payton that was clearly not happy with the results. He didn't need anyone to tell him the Saints need to get better. Anyone who thinks that isn't the case, bull**.
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01-07-2017, 10:55 AM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Totally disagree. Benson and Loomis both feel Payton can walk on water. This was a difficult decision that Payton made all on his own. He isn't stupid. He can see the same thing we all could see. He desperately wants the Saints to be a factor again and he knows that Vitt, McMahon and Johnson were all failing at making that happen. The ownership/management/HC relationship in New Orleans is unique. You cannot make assumptions based upon what other franchises would do. Sean brought a championship to the Bensons and they will never forget that fact. He has a job with the Saints for as long as he wishes. It was Payton that was clearly not happy with the results. He didn't need anyone to tell him the Saints need to get better. Anyone who thinks that isn't the case, bull****. The are losing their patience with Low Energy. He either starts winning or his ass is next. The SB was a nice treat, nearly a decade ago. LMAO!

01-11-2017, 09:03 PM	#7
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by spkb25 Anyone who doesn't think Sean's job is on the line, bull****. This is proof it is. This is one of the last moves coaches make to try and get a different result before their ass is thrown out. This was done because he had no choice, management is not happy with the results. Get better is what they just told him. Who's over Sean?

01-06-2017, 11:05 PM	#8
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01-07-2017, 06:55 AM	#9
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by 44Champs Maybe Brees was the one that got in Loomis's and SP's ear Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk That comment Brees made was my first thought when the good ole boys finally got their a$$ fired. Or maybe, just maybe Payton read my post finally. If so he needs to keep reading them. spkb25, Rugby Saint II and 44Champs like this.

01-07-2017, 12:10 AM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED The selection of Stephone Anthony was the best thing that could have happen to address the long-standing problem of linebacker coaching during Payton's tenure... I caught hell when I first broached Vitt being a handicap on this site three plus years ago... But when Anthony was selected and regressed in his second year and Allen had to take over midseason, the events had to transpire the way they did... Vitt, an older guy, self-professed old-school guy has never worked well with rookies - and that goes against what Payton has been when he's been successful - taking what you have, coaching and scheming to strengths and maximizing potential... I've been asking, challenging those that disagreed to name a linebacker Vitt has developed and got the general response that we hadn't committed a first or second round talent for him... Despite having multiple picks which Vitt (and now Joey Jr.) undoubtedly had input into their draft selection and didn't even develop a solid player from, Vitt finally had exhausted his excuses with a pick like Anthony who had such high anticipation and expectations and a promising rookie year... Now it's on Payton/Loomis and Dennis Allen to staff assistants who'll get the best of the deepest defensive front seven personnel group we've had in Payton's tenure... dizzle88 likes this.
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