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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by K Major You do realize that Dennis Allen wasn't fired right? In my opinion, I think Coach Payton has high trust and respect in Dennis and will most likely allow him to run the defense entirely without ...

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Originally Posted by K Major View Post
You do realize that Dennis Allen wasn't fired right?

In my opinion, I think Coach Payton has high trust and respect in Dennis and will most likely allow him to run the defense entirely without butting in.

I'll be very interested to see who the replacements will be. Circle back to my earlier post ... I like Pepper Johnson on my short list of LB coaching candidates. Also wonder if Brian Young is promoted?
Payton held those clowns in high regard for years also. Might as well get them all.
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But wait, isn't offense the problem?

OK, that was a low blow. Sorry.
Certainly were in loses to the Giants, Panthers, Chiefs, Broncos, and Bucs
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Certainly were in loses to the Giants, Panthers, Chiefs, Broncos, and Bucs
Uhh, no.

Hint: ST
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Uhh, no.

Hint: ST
Uh yeah, Hint- Turnovers, not scoring more than 20 points
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Uh yeah, Hint- Turnovers, not scoring more than 20 points
Hint:

Offense - #1 in the NFL
Defense - Near last in the NFL
Special teams - Last in the NFL

Still wanna blame the offense for 7-9?

I'd love to debate this. Its like taking candy from a baby.
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Hint:

Offense - #1 in the NFL
Defense - Near last in the NFL
Special teams - Last in the NFL

Still wanna blame the offense for 7-9?

I'd love to debate this. Its like taking candy from a baby.
In the Denver game though our D recorded 6 sacks and 2 interceptions, whilst our offense committed 4 turnovers and the Broncos average starting field position was our 45 yard line.

Just like the Chiefs game, Brees throws pick 6, still had chance to tie the game up and Ingram fumbles on our last drive.

Rankings can be misleading, especially when you look at those two games and how both sides of the ball couldnt compliment each other.
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In the Denver game though our D recorded 6 sacks and 2 interceptions, whilst our offense committed 4 turnovers and the Broncos average starting field position was our 45 yard line.

Just like the Chiefs game, Brees throws pick 6, still had chance to tie the game up and Ingram fumbles on our last drive.

Rankings can be misleading, especially when you look at those two games and how both sides of the ball couldnt compliment each other.
So basically your saying in 2 or 3 games our offense didn't score a bunch of points.

Wow, that incredible. I bet that never happens to the Pats. Oh wait, yes it does.

No one said the Offense was perfect all year, but to imply the offense was the problem in 2016 is just plain dumb.
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Hint:

Offense - #1 in the NFL
Defense - Near last in the NFL
Special teams - Last in the NFL

Still wanna blame the offense for 7-9?

I'd love to debate this. Its like taking candy from a baby.
Uh Hint: The number one offense put up 13 points against the Giants and a Whopping 11 points against the Bucs. Those losses are clearly on the offense for not scoring enough

Against the Chief Drew threw and Int for a Td, Mark had two fumbles and one of those were within the Chiefs 20 yard line if memory serves. Clearly the loss was on the offense for 3 turnovers, one that led to 7 points without the D ever stepping on the field.

Aginst the Broncos Drew threw and Int and Thomas had two fumbles. The Broncos started inside our 40 once and inside our 30 twice. That led to 13 points. That is the offenses fault. The D even got like 2 or 3 turnovers against the broncos, what hell you want from them?

Against the Panthers the Offense only scored 20 points and Brees fumbled leaving the Panthers on our 32 and led to a FG. Then Drew threw an INT and let the Panthers start on our 34. That led to a TD. Too many turnovers by the offense again. I think the longest Panther's drive all night was 51 yards.


That is called analysis, that is called embarrassing you. Those are facts not a bunch of hyperbole and dimwitted comical comments meant to make it look like your scoring points.

Everyone recognizes the success the offense has had, and no one is pretending that our 25th ranked defense was better than the offense, but there were games the offense did not show up or that they flat out cost us. ST may have contributed as well, but these 5 games are solely on the offense for either too many turnovers or not enough points. Even when you couple it with ST, there was no reason for us to lose without the turnovers or lack of points.
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