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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by spkb25 Uh yeah, Hint- Turnovers, not scoring more than 20 points Hint: Offense - #1 in the NFL Defense - Near last in the NFL Special teams - Last in the NFL Still wanna blame the offense ...
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
Originally Posted by Danno
In the Denver game though our D recorded 6 sacks and 2 interceptions, whilst our offense committed 4 turnovers and the Broncos average starting field position was our 45 yard line.![]()
Just like the Chiefs game, Brees throws pick 6, still had chance to tie the game up and Ingram fumbles on our last drive. Rankings can be misleading, especially when you look at those two games and how both sides of the ball couldnt compliment each other. |
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
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So basically your saying in 2 or 3 games our offense didn't score a bunch of points.![]()
Wow, that incredible. I bet that never happens to the Pats. Oh wait, yes it does. No one said the Offense was perfect all year, but to imply the offense was the problem in 2016 is just plain dumb. |
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
Originally Posted by Danno
No, what he said was our offense turned the ball over too many times in those games and did it on our side of the ball.
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
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Before you get up on your high horse, read my post again, at no point did I say that the Offense alone was the problem in 2016. Do I believe they are to blame for some losses? Yes, of course. But the D are to blame for more.![]()
Also I never said the offense didn't score a bunch of points, I said they committed 4 turnovers and put the D in bad spots in the Denver game and turned the ball over at critical times in the Chiefs game. Points can be scored in garbabe time, as evidenced by the 19 we put up in the 4th quarter vs falcons which I already stated in another point was entirely the defenses fault. |
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
Originally Posted by dizzle88
Yeah, no one is acting like the offense was more of a problem or that the 25th ranked d wasn't an issue. Of course, but those 5 losses weren't on the d, plain and simple.
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
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Brady doesn't crap the bed against second tier teams like the lions.
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
Originally Posted by Danno
Uh Hint: The number one offense put up 13 points against the Giants and a Whopping 11 points against the Bucs. Those losses are clearly on the offense for not scoring enough![]()
Against the Chief Drew threw and Int for a Td, Mark had two fumbles and one of those were within the Chiefs 20 yard line if memory serves. Clearly the loss was on the offense for 3 turnovers, one that led to 7 points without the D ever stepping on the field. Aginst the Broncos Drew threw and Int and Thomas had two fumbles. The Broncos started inside our 40 once and inside our 30 twice. That led to 13 points. That is the offenses fault. The D even got like 2 or 3 turnovers against the broncos, what hell you want from them? Against the Panthers the Offense only scored 20 points and Brees fumbled leaving the Panthers on our 32 and led to a FG. Then Drew threw an INT and let the Panthers start on our 34. That led to a TD. Too many turnovers by the offense again. I think the longest Panther's drive all night was 51 yards. That is called analysis, that is called embarrassing you. Those are facts not a bunch of hyperbole and dimwitted comical comments meant to make it look like your scoring points. Everyone recognizes the success the offense has had, and no one is pretending that our 25th ranked defense was better than the offense, but there were games the offense did not show up or that they flat out cost us. ST may have contributed as well, but these 5 games are solely on the offense for either too many turnovers or not enough points. Even when you couple it with ST, there was no reason for us to lose without the turnovers or lack of points. |
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Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED
Originally Posted by spkb25
Again, you're stating the offense struggled in a few games. Wow, that's some primo analysis on your part.![]()
If you think the offense is the problem, I just don't know what to tell you. All the analysis available points to the defense being much worse than the offense. Our offense struggled in 3 to 4 games. Our defense struggled in 10 to 12 games. WTF am I missing? |
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