2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

jeanpierre · 02-21-2018, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

That scouting report sounds eeirly similar to the so called "weaknesses" of Travis Kelce coming out of college too.

I personally think Dallas Goedert has all of the tools to become a very good TE at the next level.

Counter-espionage...

jeanpierre · 02-20-2018, 01:28 PM

ChrisXVI · 02-21-2018, 09:02 AM

Mel Kiper’s Mock Draft 2.0 is here. He has the Saints selecting...

New Orleans Saints *Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina

I mentioned Hurst at pick No. 19, and he's trending toward being a Day 1 pick and the first tight end off the board. He's a well-rounded tight end who didn't get a ton of targets in the South Carolina offense. One thing to note: Because Hurst spent a couple of years playing minor league baseball, he will be 25 when he plays his first NFL game. That shouldn't be a demerit, however, as he has the tools to be a premier tight end in the league. New Orleans brought in Coby Fleener in 2016 to try to replace the production of Jimmy Graham, but that didn't work out and the Saints could release him this offseason. Drew Brees needs a No. 1 tight end.

jeanpierre · 02-21-2018, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Mel Kiper’s Mock Draft 2.0 is here. He has the Saints selecting...

New Orleans Saints *Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina

I mentioned Hurst at pick No. 19, and he's trending toward being a Day 1 pick and the first tight end off the board. He's a well-rounded tight end who didn't get a ton of targets in the South Carolina offense. One thing to note: Because Hurst spent a couple of years playing minor league baseball, he will be 25 when he plays his first NFL game. That shouldn't be a demerit, however, as he has the tools to be a premier tight end in the league. New Orleans brought in Coby Fleener in 2016 to try to replace the production of Jimmy Graham, but that didn't work out and the Saints could release him this offseason. Drew Brees needs a No. 1 tight end.

There's value in that he'll be mature, has been in a professional sports situation already; I wouldn't be afraid to spend a second round pick on him, but I'd prefer to use the first round picks on guys who'll give you ten-twelve years...

K Major · 02-21-2018, 04:59 PM

Leighton Vander Esch ... man IDK, not a popular opinion but I just don't see it at pick #27.

His sideline speed isn't there & appears stiff. He's a BIG dude & tackles well. Mid rounds ? ... maybe.

ChrisXVI · 02-21-2018, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Leighton Vander Esch ... man IDK, not a popular opinion but I just don't see it at pick #27.

His sideline speed isn't there & appears stiff. He's a BIG dude & tackles well. Mid rounds ? ... maybe.

You’re absolutely right about the sideline-to-sideline speed. Definitely lacking there. Like JP said, his times at the combine will be very important. LVE isn’t really a playmaker... He’s the LB version of a game-manager at QB.

I don’t know, I see the potential but I want a cold-blooded killer. I’m firmly in the Rashaan Evans camp.

K Major · 02-22-2018, 09:31 AM

Quick read and analysis on the top LB's entering the draft.

https://www.ndtscouting.com/ledyard-...ebacker-class/

Footnote - 5. Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State – Mid-Late Day 2 (I see this as well).

ChrisXVI · 02-22-2018, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Quick read and analysis on the top LB's entering the draft.

https://www.ndtscouting.com/ledyard-...ebacker-class/

Footnote - 5. Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State – Mid-Late Day 2 (I see this as well).

Thanks for sharing that! Loved reading it and it was very informative. It pretty much reaffirmed my belief in Rashaan Evans and Fred Warner. Gotta snag one of those guys in the draft.

Rugby Saint II · 02-22-2018, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Quick read and analysis on the top LB's entering the draft.

https://www.ndtscouting.com/ledyard-...ebacker-class/

Footnote - 5. Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State – Mid-Late Day 2 (I see this as well).

The more I read about Vander Esch the less I'm impressed. A lot of people seem to like him here but according to this article he's missing the attributes that we need at LB'er(middle or weak). I haven't seen film on him but this was a good write up.

K Major · 02-26-2018, 09:06 PM

Bump ... red zone weapon? Only knock is that he's 25 (played Pro baseball) but he has soft hands & out runs linebackers/safeties.

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02-21-2018, 10:42 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by K Major That scouting report sounds eeirly similar to the so called "weaknesses" of Travis Kelce coming out of college too. I personally think Dallas Goedert has all of the tools to become a very good TE at the next level. Counter-espionage...

02-21-2018, 09:02 AM	#3
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Mel Kiper’s Mock Draft 2.0 is here. He has the Saints selecting... *New Orleans Saints Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina** I mentioned Hurst at pick No. 19, and he's trending toward being a Day 1 pick and the first tight end off the board. He's a well-rounded tight end who didn't get a ton of targets in the South Carolina offense. One thing to note: Because Hurst spent a couple of years playing minor league baseball, he will be 25 when he plays his first NFL game. That shouldn't be a demerit, however, as he has the tools to be a premier tight end in the league. New Orleans brought in Coby Fleener in 2016 to try to replace the production of Jimmy Graham, but that didn't work out and the Saints could release him this offseason. Drew Brees needs a No. 1 tight end.
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02-21-2018, 09:42 AM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Mel Kiper’s Mock Draft 2.0 is here. He has the Saints selecting... *New Orleans Saints Hayden Hurst, TE, South Carolina I mentioned Hurst at pick No. 19, and he's trending toward being a Day 1 pick and the first tight end off the board. He's a well-rounded tight end who didn't get a ton of targets in the South Carolina offense. One thing to note: Because Hurst spent a couple of years playing minor league baseball, he will be 25 when he plays his first NFL game.** That shouldn't be a demerit, however, as he has the tools to be a premier tight end in the league. New Orleans brought in Coby Fleener in 2016 to try to replace the production of Jimmy Graham, but that didn't work out and the Saints could release him this offseason. Drew Brees needs a No. 1 tight end. There's value in that he'll be mature, has been in a professional sports situation already; I wouldn't be afraid to spend a second round pick on him, but I'd prefer to use the first round picks on guys who'll give you ten-twelve years...

02-21-2018, 04:59 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Leighton Vander Esch ... man IDK, not a popular opinion but I just don't see it at pick #27. His sideline speed isn't there & appears stiff. He's a BIG dude & tackles well. Mid rounds ? ... maybe.

02-21-2018, 05:55 PM	#6
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by K Major Leighton Vander Esch ... man IDK, not a popular opinion but I just don't see it at pick #27. His sideline speed isn't there & appears stiff. He's a BIG dude & tackles well. Mid rounds ? ... maybe. You’re absolutely right about the sideline-to-sideline speed. Definitely lacking there. Like JP said, his times at the combine will be very important. LVE isn’t really a playmaker... He’s the LB version of a game-manager at QB. I don’t know, I see the potential but I want a cold-blooded killer. I’m firmly in the Rashaan Evans camp.

02-20-2018, 01:28 PM	#2
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02-22-2018, 09:31 AM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Quick read and analysis on the top LB's entering the draft. https://www.ndtscouting.com/ledyard-...ebacker-class/ Footnote - 5. Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State – Mid-Late Day 2 (I see this as well).

02-22-2018, 10:23 AM	#8
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by K Major Quick read and analysis on the top LB's entering the draft. https://www.ndtscouting.com/ledyard-...ebacker-class/ Footnote - 5. Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State – Mid-Late Day 2 (I see this as well). Thanks for sharing that! Loved reading it and it was very informative. It pretty much reaffirmed my belief in Rashaan Evans and Fred Warner. Gotta snag one of those guys in the draft.

02-22-2018, 03:43 PM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by K Major Quick read and analysis on the top LB's entering the draft. https://www.ndtscouting.com/ledyard-...ebacker-class/ Footnote - 5. Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State – Mid-Late Day 2 (I see this as well). The more I read about Vander Esch the less I'm impressed. A lot of people seem to like him here but according to this article he's missing the attributes that we need at LB'er(middle or weak). I haven't seen film on him but this was a good write up.

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