2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

K Major · 02-28-2018, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Like Hayden Hurst, just don't like spending a first round pick on him as he's already four years into an NFL career...

Interesting take by Mayock ...

The tight end the Saints draft might not be who you think: Mayock | NOLA.com

Beastmode · 02-28-2018, 08:13 AM

Looks like Shockey. Same exact size and high aggression after the catch. I could see it.

K Major · 02-28-2018, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I changed my mind. I want Lamar Jackson.

Lamar just needs to understand running should be his last option in the NFL. Can he make those throws consistently in the pocket? No clue here. If there is a coach who can polish (see Tony Romo) Lamar up, I think it's Sean P.

Side note - I didn't agree with Bill Polian & his analysis (thinks LJ should switch positions to WR & doesn't have the size to be effective etc). The kid won a Heisman as a QB & he's every bit of 6'3

.

My concern would be accuracy but the tools are definitely there.

rezburna · 02-28-2018, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Always cool to hear a different opinion! What makes you so high on him Rez? Sean Payton could definitely maximize his potential.

He’s got the speed of Michael Vick, but I’d venture to say he’s better in the open field. He has the ball carrier vision of the elite running backs in the NFL. His elusiveness is something we haven’t really seen at that position outside of a Michael Vick...but he’s a much better passer. He has far better arm talent. Vick was a more powerful passer, but he lacked the touch and accuracy he needed like Kap. His first instinct isn’t to run. He just needs to be coached up on protections and making decisions at the line pre snap. Most QB’s need a touch up in that area. I’m just imaging the offense we’d run with him and Kamara...

Also, he completed 59% of his passes in college, which isn’t spectacular, but his adjusted completion percentage when accounting for throwing the ball away and spikes was over 70%.

ChrisXVI · 02-28-2018, 10:25 AM

So here’s a question just to pass the time...

Last year the Chiefs had the same pick as us (27) and they traded up to 10. It cost them #27, their 3rd rounder (#91) and their 2018 1st round pick.

Is there any player you would be willing to make the same trade up for if they were still on the board at #10? Bradley Chubb? Roquan Smith?

K Major · 02-28-2018, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

So here’s a question just to pass the time...

Last year the Chiefs had the same pick as us (27) and they traded up to 10. It cost them #27, their 3rd rounder (#91) and their 2018 1st round pick.

Is there any player you would be willing to make the same trade up for if they were still on the board at #10? Bradley Chubb? Roquan Smith?

That is a fair question Chris.

For a fast, instinctive, game changing Day 1 starter at linebacker? Roquan checks a lot of boxes for me & I would do it. No on Chubb.

I think if the Saints front office is high on specific player, they could. Just last year the Saints called 20 NFL teams before they found a trading partner (Niners) in order to select the Alien aka Alvin Kamara.

But on the other hand, I believe Payton is still high on Anzalone. Somehow, we must get faster in the middle. Tampa, Carolina & the Dirty birds have those guys.

jeanpierre · 03-01-2018, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I changed my mind. I want Lamar Jackson.

Rez, you crack me up - And no cher', I don't agree; he's a one-read option quarterback; league will figure him out fast...

jeanpierre · 03-01-2018, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

So here’s a question just to pass the time...

Last year the Chiefs had the same pick as us (27) and they traded up to 10. It cost them #27, their 3rd rounder (#91) and their 2018 1st round pick.

Is there any player you would be willing to make the same trade up for if they were still on the board at #10? Bradley Chubb? Roquan Smith?

That's too much and it'll take the Chiefs five years to catch up from that overspend...

We should've leaped ahead with two No. 1's and something went down between Stephone Anthony and DA after year 1 and it cost us...

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02-28-2018, 08:02 AM	#421
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02-28-2018, 08:29 AM	#423
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by rezburna I changed my mind. I want Lamar Jackson. Lamar just needs to understand running should be his last option in the NFL. Can he make those throws consistently in the pocket? No clue here. If there is a coach who can polish (see Tony Romo) Lamar up, I think it's Sean P. Side note - I didn't agree with Bill Polian & his analysis (thinks LJ should switch positions to WR & doesn't have the size to be effective etc). The kid won a Heisman as a QB & he's every bit of 6'3 . My concern would be accuracy but the tools are definitely there. ChrisXVI likes this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,848	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Always cool to hear a different opinion! What makes you so high on him Rez? Sean Payton could definitely maximize his potential. He’s got the speed of Michael Vick, but I’d venture to say he’s better in the open field. He has the ball carrier vision of the elite running backs in the NFL. His elusiveness is something we haven’t really seen at that position outside of a Michael Vick...but he’s a much better passer. He has far better arm talent. Vick was a more powerful passer, but he lacked the touch and accuracy he needed like Kap. His first instinct isn’t to run. He just needs to be coached up on protections and making decisions at the line pre snap. Most QB’s need a touch up in that area. I’m just imaging the offense we’d run with him and Kamara... Also, he completed 59% of his passes in college, which isn’t spectacular, but his adjusted completion percentage when accounting for throwing the ball away and spikes was over 70%. ChrisXVI likes this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI So here’s a question just to pass the time... Last year the Chiefs had the same pick as us (27) and they traded up to 10. It cost them #27, their 3rd rounder (#91) and their 2018 1st round pick. Is there any player you would be willing to make the same trade up for if they were still on the board at #10? Bradley Chubb? Roquan Smith? That is a fair question Chris. For a fast, instinctive, game changing Day 1 starter at linebacker? Roquan checks a lot of boxes for me & I would do it. No on Chubb. I think if the Saints front office is high on specific player, they could. Just last year the Saints called 20 NFL teams before they found a trading partner (Niners) in order to select the Alien aka Alvin Kamara. But on the other hand, I believe Payton is still high on Anzalone. Somehow, we must get faster in the middle. Tampa, Carolina & the Dirty birds have those guys. ChrisXVI likes this.
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by rezburna I changed my mind. I want Lamar Jackson. Rez, you crack me up - And no cher', I don't agree; he's a one-read option quarterback; league will figure him out fast...

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI So here’s a question just to pass the time... Last year the Chiefs had the same pick as us (27) and they traded up to 10. It cost them #27, their 3rd rounder (#91) and their 2018 1st round pick. Is there any player you would be willing to make the same trade up for if they were still on the board at #10? Bradley Chubb? Roquan Smith? That's too much and it'll take the Chiefs five years to catch up from that overspend... We should've leaped ahead with two No. 1's and something went down between Stephone Anthony and DA after year 1 and it cost us...

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