2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints

jeanpierre · 03-04-2018, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Oh my God, Shaquem Griffin just ran a 4.38! I’m speechless!

Originally Posted by rezburna

That LB from UCF just ran a 4.3. Trade up and get him by any means.

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

It’s starting to become less of just a feel good story with Shaquem and
more of being a legitimately elite prospect. He’s not just a workout warrior either... His game tape is tremendous.

What we are seeing right now is the difference in prospects being managed by their agents, agencies with something to lose in the NFL Draft process and a man with nothing to lose in the fight for his life for legitimacy...

The movie rights alone are going be worth million$$$

frydaddy · 03-04-2018, 01:20 PM

Griffin is an awesome story and I think he'll end up being at least a solid pro. I'd love to have him here, but unless we're willing to take him at the end of round one, we probably don't have a shot. With that time he's almost certainly put himself in the second round. If he has a good pro day he's borderline first. He may be borderline first already. His tape speaks for itself and he keeps finding new ways to prove the doubters wrong.

ChrisXVI · 03-04-2018, 04:14 PM

I had Utah DE Kylie Fitts in the 6th round of my mock draft, but might have to bump him up. Look at these numbers...

DE Kylie Fitts
Height: 6-4; Weight: 263 lbs
40 Time: 4.69
10 Yard Split: 1.61
3-Cone: 6.88

Just incredible.

ChrisXVI · 03-04-2018, 04:18 PM

Sam Hubbard didn’t run the 40, but his other numbers were fantastic!

3-Cone: 6.84 (Elite)
Vertical: 35

ChrisXVI · 03-04-2018, 04:39 PM

Doesn’t look like Leighton Vander Esch will fall past 20 with these measurables...

Leighton Vander Esch
HT: 6-4 1/4
WT: 256 lbs.
Arms: 33 7/8”
40-yard: 4.65
Vert: 39.5”
Broad: 10’4”
SS: 4.15
3-Cone: 6.88

jeanpierre · 03-04-2018, 05:44 PM

jeanpierre · 03-04-2018, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Doesn’t look like Leighton Vander Esch will fall past 20 with these measurables...

Leighton Vander Esch
HT: 6-4 1/4
WT: 256 lbs.
Arms: 33 7/8”
40-yard: 4.65
Vert: 39.5”
Broad: 10’4”
SS: 4.15
3-Cone: 6.88

That right there was the magic number - he may even go Top 15 now...

jeanpierre · 03-04-2018, 05:47 PM

Hagan and I always looked to the occasional Tulane prospect; we're dinosaurs of a by-gone era when Tulane Football was respectable, a tough out...

...he'd be drooling over this guy that I've had in my groupings...

ChrisXVI likes this.

jeanpierre · 03-05-2018, 02:12 AM

So I'm really admiring Shaquem Griffin's brave combine performance, then reality sets in for me...

NFL defenses rarely shut down opposing offenses, it's about turnovers, and this is where I'm forseeing a problem for Griffin...

So I go to College Football Reference for his collegiate turnover statistics and I get quite the surprise...

From 2013-2017 (includes a red shirt season where he only played three games his first two seasons), he did this:

Forced Fumbles - Five (5)
Fumble Recoveries - Four (4)
FR returned for TD - One (1)

and yes,

Three (3) career interceptions, one ea his SO, JU, SR seasons...

along with 18.5 career sacks, all from his JU, SR seasons...

ICYMI, he suffered a prenatal injury (umbilical cord wrapped around his wrist, restricting blood flow, development)...

Yes, his missing hand is going to be an issue at the NFL level where the parity of the talent really is that tight...

But he can do so many other things that I just don't see him on the board after the fourth round now...

jeanpierre · 03-05-2018, 08:41 AM

03-04-2018, 01:01 PM	#461
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Oh my God, Shaquem Griffin just ran a 4.38! I’m speechless! Originally Posted by rezburna That LB from UCF just ran a 4.3. Trade up and get him by any means. Originally Posted by ChrisXVI It’s starting to become less of just a feel good story with Shaquem and more of being a legitimately elite prospect. He’s not just a workout warrior either... His game tape is tremendous. What we are seeing right now is the difference in prospects being managed by their agents, agencies with something to lose in the NFL Draft process and a man with nothing to lose in the fight for his life for legitimacy... The movie rights alone are going be worth million$$$ ChrisXVI and rezburna like this.

03-04-2018, 01:20 PM	#462
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,947 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Griffin is an awesome story and I think he'll end up being at least a solid pro. I'd love to have him here, but unless we're willing to take him at the end of round one, we probably don't have a shot. With that time he's almost certainly put himself in the second round. If he has a good pro day he's borderline first. He may be borderline first already. His tape speaks for itself and he keeps finding new ways to prove the doubters wrong.

03-04-2018, 04:14 PM	#463
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints I had Utah DE Kylie Fitts in the 6th round of my mock draft, but might have to bump him up. Look at these numbers... DE Kylie Fitts Height: 6-4; Weight: 263 lbs 40 Time: 4.69 10 Yard Split: 1.61 3-Cone: 6.88 Just incredible.

03-04-2018, 04:18 PM	#464
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Sam Hubbard didn’t run the 40, but his other numbers were fantastic! 3-Cone: 6.84 (Elite) Vertical: 35

03-04-2018, 04:39 PM	#465
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Doesn’t look like Leighton Vander Esch will fall past 20 with these measurables... Leighton Vander Esch HT: 6-4 1/4 WT: 256 lbs. Arms: 33 7/8” 40-yard: 4.65 Vert: 39.5” Broad: 10’4” SS: 4.15 3-Cone: 6.88

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Doesn’t look like Leighton Vander Esch will fall past 20 with these measurables... Leighton Vander Esch HT: 6-4 1/4 WT: 256 lbs. Arms: 33 7/8” 40-yard: 4.65 Vert: 39.5” Broad: 10’4” SS: 4.15 3-Cone: 6.88 That right there was the magic number - he may even go Top 15 now...

03-04-2018, 05:47 PM	#468
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints Hagan and I always looked to the occasional Tulane prospect; we're dinosaurs of a by-gone era when Tulane Football was respectable, a tough out... ...he'd be drooling over this guy that I've had in my groupings... Twitter ChrisXVI likes this.

03-05-2018, 02:12 AM	#469
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2018 NFL Draft Prospects - Saints So I'm really admiring Shaquem Griffin's brave combine performance, then reality sets in for me... NFL defenses rarely shut down opposing offenses, it's about turnovers, and this is where I'm forseeing a problem for Griffin... So I go to College Football Reference for his collegiate turnover statistics and I get quite the surprise... From 2013-2017 (includes a red shirt season where he only played three games his first two seasons), he did this: Forced Fumbles - Five (5) Fumble Recoveries - Four (4) FR returned for TD - One (1) and yes, Three (3) career interceptions, one ea his SO, JU, SR seasons... along with 18.5 career sacks, all from his JU, SR seasons... ICYMI, he suffered a prenatal injury (umbilical cord wrapped around his wrist, restricting blood flow, development)... Yes, his missing hand is going to be an issue at the NFL level where the parity of the talent really is that tight... But he can do so many other things that I just don't see him on the board after the fourth round now...
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