I guess you missed the part about the numbers being based upon US Census Bureau data on males and females working similar full-time, year-round jobs.

FFS Guido I didn’t mis any parts. I’ll spell it out for you.

Dick and Jane work for Boeing both on the assembly line and started the same date 20 years ago. Bob has 20 years in that job, Judy has has two children in the last 20 years and too two years of for each. Judy missed 4 years with of pay raises.

Same full-time job, same company, same start date.

If she took two years off for each wouldn't that mean she only has 16 years in the company? Because if the company miraculously kept her own and let her have two years of maternity leave for each child instead of her leaving the company all together and then coming back she still would have gotten the raises just like everybody else right? I know maternity leave doesn't stop anybody from getting raises here in the hospital.

Yes sir... I’m on my phone so that “too Two” should have said lost two for each putting her total time with the company 4 years behind Bob.

Females do a lot of amazing things that we don’t. They focus on the family in most cases better than we ever will, they also tend to take a career break to tend to sick and or dying family members before we do. My wife has done both..

This is understood. Yet, the numbers representing the gap are still significant when factoring things like this. It's real. It happens all the time and it is something that will take generation to solve. Ignoring the fact that is truly does exist is part of the problem.

My wife was several years into her career in nursing when we first met. We married and had two fine boys with her taking off six weeks each time. She lost no seniority due to the time off. Now 30 years further into her career, now as a malpractice claims adjuster with an RNC and reaching top production goals in her company she is likely still getting less than a male hired at the same time with even lessor qualifications.

Even if the company gives all employees the identical percentage raise it increases the pay differential of the two individuals. That's basic mathematics. This is another problem that needs to be addressed.

What is strange to me is the fact that married men would actually benefit from collaborating with women to close the pay gap. And, yet, here in this forum, far from that kind of mutually beneficial collaboration, most of the men here deny the existence of a pay gap.

What is strange to me is the fact that married men would actually benefit from collaborating with women to close the pay gap. And, yet, here in this forum, far from that kind of mutually beneficial collaboration, most of the men here deny the existence of a pay gap.

FACT - Worked for an HMO/PPO/TPA for five years...

To the ininitiated, it's a womens' world except for one or two roosters in the management circle; a daily grind of territorial cat-fights among rivals dept heads; unnecessary waste of energy that delays accurate claims and benefits resolution ...

Anyways, same job title, description, grade; was consistently 15% less in base pay and in incentives than my friends, co-workers, even though I had a better attendance record, outworked most in measurable production reports...

And when a disgruntled member showed up to berate a company representative - guess who was sent to the first floor to take the arse-chewing for someone else careless data entry???

In our department, there were over 200 associates, about twenty men and we were all in the same compensation disposition; this included two men who had seniority over all other associates on the two floors...

Now, I'm self-employed and if you want a job, I make an offer and you take it or I'm giving someone else the opportunity based on what I'm willing to pay. Have never forced anyone to take the job I offer...

So, I've seen both sides of it...

Ultimately, here's the slippery slope when you start legislating anything of this kind, what I like to call legislating behaviour...

It's another bolt in the quiver for corrupt government bureaucrats have to harass folks that may not be from the same politics or neighborhood - regulations are never enforced evenly...

Now, some believe it is solely based on race or religion or sex when, in truth, all those are happen-stance to the real discriminator - economic status...

That is why majority of white males call BS on the other discriminators because most white males also face an equally up-hill challenge when starting out financially...

And resent when other "disenfranchised sub-groups" are "made whole" through affirmative action while they are left to play from behind even further...

If you want to be enlightened and really get to the truth, then read Hillbilly Elegy by J.D. Vance as it it the most honest picture of what is really happening in this country...

FACT - Worked for an HMO/PPO/TPA for five years...

To the ininitiated, it's a womens' world except for one or two roosters in the management circle; a daily grind of territorial cat-fights among rivals dept heads; unnecessary waste of energy that delays accurate claims and benefits resolution ...

Anyways, same job title, description, grade; was consistently 15% less in base pay, incentives than my friends, co-workers, even though I had a better attendance record, outworked most in measurable production reports...

And when a disgruntled member showed up to berate someone - guess who was sent to the first floor to take the arse-chewing for someone else careless data entry???

In our department, over 200 associates, about twenty men with all in the same compensation disposition; this included two with seniority over all associates on two floors...

Now, self-employed. Want a job? I make an offer and take it or someone else will; it's what I'm willing to pay. Have never forced anyone to take the job I offer...

So, I've seen both sides of it...

Ultimately, here's the slippery slope when you start legislating anything of this kind, what I like to call legislating behaviour...

It's another bolt in the quiver for corrupt big-gov bureaucrats to harass folks that have different politics, neighborhood - regulations are never enforced evenly...

Now, some believe it is solely based on race or religion or sex when, in truth, all those are happen-stance to the real discriminator - economic status...

That is why majority of white males call BS on the other discriminators because most white males also face an equally up-hill challenge when starting out financially...

And resent when other "disenfranchised sub-groups" are "made whole" through affirmative action while they are left to play from behind even further...

Want to be enlightened and really get to the truth? Read Hillbilly Elegy by J.D. Vance - the most honest picture of what's really happening in this country...

Yes sir... I’m on my phone so that “too Two” should have said lost two for each putting her total time with the company 4 years behind Bob.

Females do a lot of amazing things that we don’t. They focus on the family in most cases better than we ever will, they also tend to take a career break to tend to sick and or dying family members before we do. My wife has done both..