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jeanpierre 08-12-2019 11:09 AM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2019 New Orleans Saints – PreSeason, Gm 1 New Orleans Saints @ Los Angeles Chargers

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees, 5 - Teddy Bridgewater (FA 2019), 7 - Taysom Hill

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray (FA 2019),
37 - Jacquizz Rodgers (FA 2019), 32 - Devine Ozigbo (UDFA 2019), 27 - Dwayne Washington, 30 - Kerwynn Williams (FA 2019)
FB (1) 42 - Zach Line, 44 - Shane Smith (FA 2019), 46 - Michael Burton (FA 2019)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood, 17 - Emmanuel Butler (UDFA 2019), 15 - Simmie Cobbs, Jr.

WR-S (2) 80 - Austin Carr, 83 - Cyril Grayson (UDFA 2019), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (UDFA 2019)

LT (1) 72 - Terron Armstead, 77 - Marshall Newhouse (FA 2019), 70 - Michael Ola (FA 2019)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 64 - Will Clapp, 73 - Ethan Greenidge (UDFA 2019)

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy (R2P16, #48), 62 - Nick Easton (FA 2019), 66 - Ryan Groy (FA 2019), 61 - Marcus Henry (FA 2019)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 63 - Cameron Tom (ERFA 2019), 60 - Patrick Omameh (FA 2019)

RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 79 - Chris Clark (FA 2019) , 68 - Derrick Kelly (UDFA 2019), 65 - Ulrick John (FA 2019)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 85 - Dan Arnold, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 81 - A.J. Derby (FA 2019), 82 - Jake Powell (UDFA 2019), 86 - Alizé Mack (R7P17, #231)

WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 14 - Travin Dural (FA 2019), 11 - Deonte Harris (UDFA 2019)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 99 - Geneo Grissom (FA 2019)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown (FA 2019), 95 - Taylor Stallworth, 96 - Sylvester Williams (FA 2019), 76 - Ziggy Hood (FA 2019)

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Mario Edwards, Jr. (FA 2019), 74 - Shy Tuttle (UDFA 2019),
98 - Sheldon Rankins (Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform)
LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 50 - Wes Horton (FA 2019), 69 - Corbin Kaufusi (UDFA 2019)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson (FA 2019), 51 - Colton Jumper (FA 2019), 54 - Josh Martin (FA 2019)

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss (R7P30, #244), 44 - Darnell Sankey (RFC 2019)

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 59 - Vince Biegel (ERFA 2019), 58 - Porter Gustin (UDFA 2019)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 35 - Marcus Sherels (FA 2019), 39 - Kayvon Webster (FA 2019)

NCB (2) 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2019), 21 - Patrick Robinson

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo (FA 2019), 33 - Saquan Hampton (R6P4, #177), 38 - Terrell Williams, Jr. (FA 2019)

SS (2) 24 - Vonn Bell, 22 - Chauncey Gardner (R4P3, #105), 48 - J.T. Gray, 36 - T. J. Green (FA 2019)

LCB (2) 25 - Eli Apple, 20 - Ken Crawley (RFA 2019), 34 - Justin Hardee (ERFA 2019)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz (RFA 2019)

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (ERFA 2019), 40 - Nick Moore (UDFA 2019)


Active Roster Count - Total: 90 (53); Offense: 46; Defense: 40; Kicking: 4


Reserve/Injured

37 - Javorius "Buck" Allen (FA 2019)

Reserve/Non-Football Injury

54 - Chase Hansen (UDFA 2019)

Reserve/Did Not Report

57 - Carl Granderson (UDFA 2019)


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2019)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2019)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2019)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2019)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

jeanpierre 08-15-2019 04:42 AM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
My focus will be on this offensive line; concerned about the lack of quality depth behind the starters and how this line gels with the rookie center leading it...

K Major 08-15-2019 07:12 AM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 850898)
My focus will be on this offensive line; concerned about the lack of quality depth behind the starters and how this line gels with the rookie center leading it...

+1.

77 - Marshall Newhouse (FA 2019) ... not sure how long he'll last but he's been a human turn style @ practice.

I'll go defensive line. The pass rush was lacking big time on Friday.

IIRC we didn't get a sack on Cousins or the back up.

K Major 08-15-2019 07:18 AM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 85 - Dan Arnold, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 81 - A.J. Derby (FA 2019), 82 - Jake Powell (UDFA 2019), 86 - Alizé Mack (R7P17, #231)

Here is an area of focus for me as well.

Outside of Cook, no one else here has impressed thus far. I'd like to see more AJ Derby on Sunday.

jeanpierre 08-15-2019 01:27 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 850903)
TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 85 - Dan Arnold, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 81 - A.J. Derby (FA 2019), 82 - Jake Powell (UDFA 2019), 86 - Alizé Mack (R7P17, #231)

Here is an area of focus for me as well.

Outside of Cook, no one else here has impressed thus far. I'd like to see more AJ Derby on Sunday.

You know Mack has been injured? He's likely headed for the proverbial Payton NFL Medical Red-shirt...


With Dan Arnold, folks are forgetting this guy was a wide receiver until last year, his first year in the NFL, he had to learn a new position and is trying to gain bulk, mass to play that new position...

Considering where he is, I'm impressed with what he's done and was glad to hear Payton is in his corner wanting him to succeed - Arnold has just got to reverse this trend of coming up short on these plays...

rezburna 08-15-2019 02:02 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
I didn’t even realize we have Buck Allen. The RB room is super talented.

K Major 08-15-2019 02:03 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 850943)
You know Mack has been injured? He's likely headed for the proverbial Payton NFL Medical Red-shirt...


Kind of bummed here. I actually thought Alize' would make some "noise" and compete. So far I'm dead wrong on him.

jeanpierre 08-15-2019 03:28 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 850945)
I didn’t even realize we have Buck Allen. The RB room is super talented.

Rez, he's designated injured/reserved, at the start of training camp...

jeanpierre 08-18-2019 10:30 AM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2019 New Orleans Saints – PreSeason, Gm 2 New Orleans Saints @ Los Angeles Chargers

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees, 5 - Teddy Bridgewater (FA 2019), 7 - Taysom Hill

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray (FA 2019),
37 - Jacquizz Rodgers (FA 2019), 32 - Devine Ozigbo (UDFA 2019), 27 - Dwayne Washington, 30 - Kerwynn Williams (FA 2019)
FB (1) 42 - Zach Line, 44 - Shane Smith (FA 2019), 46 - Michael Burton (FA 2019)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood, 17 - Emmanuel Butler (UDFA 2019), 15 - Simmie Cobbs, Jr.

WR-S (2) 80 - Austin Carr, 83 - Cyril Grayson (UDFA 2019), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (UDFA 2019)

LT (1) 72 - Terron Armstead, 77 - Marshall Newhouse (FA 2019), 70 - Michael Ola (FA 2019)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 64 - Will Clapp, 73 - Ethan Greenidge (UDFA 2019)

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy (R2P16, #48), 62 - Nick Easton (FA 2019), 66 - Ryan Groy (FA 2019), 61 - Marcus Henry (FA 2019)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 63 - Cameron Tom (ERFA 2019), 60 - Patrick Omameh (FA 2019)

RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 79 - Chris Clark (FA 2019) , 68 - Derrick Kelly (UDFA 2019), 65 - Ulrick John (FA 2019)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 85 - Dan Arnold, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 81 - A.J. Derby (FA 2019), 82 - Jake Powell (UDFA 2019), 86 - Alizé Mack (R7P17, #231)

WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 14 - Travin Dural (FA 2019), 11 - Deonte Harris (UDFA 2019)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 99 - Geneo Grissom (FA 2019)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown (FA 2019), 95 - Taylor Stallworth, 96 - Sylvester Williams (FA 2019), 76 - Ziggy Hood (FA 2019)

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Mario Edwards, Jr. (FA 2019), 74 - Shy Tuttle (UDFA 2019),
98 - Sheldon Rankins (Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform)
LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 50 - Wes Horton (FA 2019), 69 - Corbin Kaufusi (UDFA 2019)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson (FA 2019), 51 - Colton Jumper (FA 2019), 54 - Josh Martin (FA 2019)

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss (R7P30, #244), 44 - Darnell Sankey (RFC 2019)

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 59 - Vince Biegel (ERFA 2019), 58 - Porter Gustin (UDFA 2019)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 35 - Marcus Sherels (FA 2019), 39 - Kayvon Webster (FA 2019)

NCB (2) 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2019), 21 - Patrick Robinson

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo (FA 2019), 33 - Saquan Hampton (R6P4, #177), 38 - Terrell Williams, Jr. (FA 2019)

SS (2) 24 - Vonn Bell, 22 - Chauncey Gardner (R4P3, #105), 48 - J.T. Gray, 36 - T. J. Green (FA 2019)

LCB (2) 25 - Eli Apple, 20 - Ken Crawley (RFA 2019), 34 - Justin Hardee (ERFA 2019)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz (RFA 2019)

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (ERFA 2019), 40 - Nick Moore (UDFA 2019)


Active Roster Count - Total: 90 (53); Offense: 46; Defense: 40; Kicking: 4


Reserve/Injured

37 - Javorius "Buck" Allen (FA 2019)

Reserve/Non-Football Injury

54 - Chase Hansen (UDFA 2019)

Reserve/Did Not Report

57 - Carl Granderson (UDFA 2019)


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2019)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2019)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2019)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2019)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

dizzle88 08-18-2019 10:43 AM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 850943)
You know Mack has been injured? He's likely headed for the proverbial Payton NFL Medical Red-shirt...


With Dan Arnold, folks are forgetting this guy was a wide receiver until last year, his first year in the NFL, he had to learn a new position and is trying to gain bulk, mass to play that new position...

Considering where he is, I'm impressed with what he's done and was glad to hear Payton is in his corner wanting him to succeed - Arnold has just got to reverse this trend of coming up short on these plays...

Its not the learning position stuff that people are annoyed about with Arnold, it's the fact that a converted WR can't catch or hang onto the ball consistently.

jeanpierre 08-18-2019 11:02 AM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2019 New Orleans Saints – PreSeason, Gm 2 New Orleans Saints @ Los Angeles Chargers

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees, 5 - Teddy Bridgewater (FA 2019), 7 - Taysom Hill

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray (FA 2019),
37 - Jacquizz Rodgers (FA 2019), 32 - Devine Ozigbo (UDFA 2019), 27 - Dwayne Washington, 30 - Kerwynn Williams (FA 2019)
FB (1) 42 - Zach Line, 44 - Shane Smith (FA 2019), 46 - Michael Burton (FA 2019)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood, 17 - Emmanuel Butler (UDFA 2019), 15 - Simmie Cobbs, Jr.

WR-S (2) 80 - Austin Carr, 83 - Cyril Grayson (UDFA 2019), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (UDFA 2019)

LT (1) 72 - Terron Armstead, 77 - Marshall Newhouse (FA 2019), 70 - Michael Ola (FA 2019)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 64 - Will Clapp, 73 - Ethan Greenidge (UDFA 2019)

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy (R2P16, #48), 62 - Nick Easton (FA 2019), 66 - Ryan Groy (FA 2019), 61 - Marcus Henry (FA 2019)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 63 - Cameron Tom (ERFA 2019), 60 - Patrick Omameh (FA 2019)

RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 79 - Chris Clark (FA 2019) , 68 - Derrick Kelly (UDFA 2019), 65 - Ulrick John (FA 2019)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 85 - Dan Arnold, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 81 - A.J. Derby (FA 2019), 82 - Jake Powell (UDFA 2019), 86 - Alizé Mack (R7P17, #231)

WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 14 - Travin Dural (FA 2019), 11 - Deonte Harris (UDFA 2019)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 99 - Geneo Grissom (FA 2019)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown (FA 2019), 95 - Taylor Stallworth, 96 - Sylvester Williams (FA 2019), 76 - Ziggy Hood (FA 2019)

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Mario Edwards, Jr. (FA 2019), 74 - Shy Tuttle (UDFA 2019),
98 - Sheldon Rankins (Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform)
LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 50 - Wes Horton (FA 2019), 69 - Corbin Kaufusi (UDFA 2019)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson (FA 2019), 51 - Colton Jumper (FA 2019), 54 - Josh Martin (FA 2019)

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss (R7P30, #244), 44 - Darnell Sankey (RFC 2019)

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 59 - Vince Biegel (ERFA 2019), 58 - Porter Gustin (UDFA 2019)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 35 - Marcus Sherels (FA 2019), 39 - Kayvon Webster (FA 2019)

NCB (2) 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2019), 21 - Patrick Robinson

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo (FA 2019), 33 - Saquan Hampton (R6P4, #177), 38 - Terrell Williams, Jr. (FA 2019)

SS (2) 24 - Vonn Bell, 22 - Chauncey Gardner (R4P3, #105), 48 - J.T. Gray, 36 - T. J. Green (FA 2019)

LCB (2) 25 - Eli Apple, 20 - Ken Crawley (RFA 2019), 34 - Justin Hardee (ERFA 2019)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz (RFA 2019)

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (ERFA 2019), 40 - Nick Moore (UDFA 2019)


Active Roster Count - Total: 90 (53); Offense: 46; Defense: 40; Kicking: 4


Reserve/Injured

37 - Javorius "Buck" Allen (FA 2019)

Reserve/Non-Football Injury

54 - Chase Hansen (UDFA 2019)

Reserve/Did Not Report

57 - Carl Granderson (UDFA 2019)


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2019)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2019)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2019)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2019)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

jeanpierre 08-18-2019 11:08 AM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 851135)
Its not the learning position stuff that people are annoyed about with Arnold, it's the fact that a converted WR can't catch or hang onto the ball consistently.

Dizz, you just made my point by saying Its not the learning position stuff, again, I'm saying fans should consider:
  • Arnold's a young player, only his second training camp

  • Came from a small school (likely limited scheme, coaching resources)

  • Dan then joined the most complex offense in the NFL

  • He did this as a rookie, a rookie

  • And there's the stuff of learning a new position, not to mention the training and dietary regime to gain thirty-forty pounds...
The only thing that could've made this harder is if the new position would've been quarterback...

I see the talent that I think Payton does, and patience will be rewarded with this young player...

I say keep sending him in there, build his confidence, and we will be rewarded...

K Major 08-19-2019 08:46 AM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
NCB (2) 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2019), 21 - Patrick Robinson

PRob may have played his best football while in Philly. Up to this point, all I see is depth. Looks to be playing a step behind & not as quick.

jeanpierre 08-19-2019 09:50 AM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 851384)
NCB (2) 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2019), 21 - Patrick Robinson

PRob may have played his best football while in Philly. Up to this point, all I see is depth. Looks to be playing a step behind & not as quick.

Yeah, don't think he's still 100%; a year off at his age, that takes a while to get that back...

And if he's okay in that role, then he'll be a great asset to have as a NB and spot starter...

Would like to see him get that ring with the team that drafted him...

jeanpierre 08-19-2019 11:01 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

jeanpierre 08-19-2019 11:04 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

Audiotom 08-20-2019 04:52 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 851500)

just think if David and Sheldon were lined up together

The Dude 08-20-2019 06:43 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 851558)
just think if David and Sheldon were lined up together

Bell has been coming along nicely too.

jeanpierre 08-20-2019 08:43 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

jeanpierre 08-20-2019 08:45 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
@Amie_Just is on WWLAM Radio with Seth Dunlap discussing roster cuts tonight...

Deonte Harris looks to have the RS job as Marcus Sherels has been out for two weeks with an undisclosed injury...

She says wait to panic re: Pass Rush in Week 2, because the defensive coaches are experimenting with different schemes with Rankins out...

She'd be surprised if Emmanuel Butler doesn't make the roster; Kirkwood would be put on IR before being cut but the injury is costing him valuable time...

ChrisXVI 08-21-2019 12:50 PM

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Beastmode 08-21-2019 02:29 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Drew is just being nice. He's getting cut.

SmashMouth 08-21-2019 02:35 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 851499)

Saints sure got the "Clapp" ! :bng:

K Major 08-21-2019 02:42 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 851614)
Drew is just being nice. He's getting cut.

I just don't think Austin is the answer. Many will say "Southake AKA Jordan Humphrey isn't balling @ practice" however when the lights come on in actual games, he has shown the ability to make a big play.

We need guys who can high point balls (see Jordan) and snag the contested throws to keep the chains moving consistently.

I'm not seeing that with Carr. If we put Butler/Humphrey on the p/s, we could very well lose em.

Tough cuts are coming.

CheramieIII 08-21-2019 03:15 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
What about Ginn, Smith, Carr, Butler, Humphrey, Thomas and Kirkwood.

ChrisXVI 08-21-2019 03:36 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
The thing with Austin Carr is that it doesn’t matter if none of us like him. Payton and Brees do. I don’t get it, but he’ll probably make the team over most of the ones we’re rooting for.

K Major 08-21-2019 03:45 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 851619)
What about Ginn, Smith, Carr, Butler, Humphrey, Thomas and Kirkwood.

Keith stays with the medical trainers and hasn't put in a lot of reps thus far ...

Tre' and Ginn have shown good stuff.

I really would like to see Jordan and Butler show their worth vs the Jets.

There have been a few plays (end arounds) where it look like Sean has a vision for Cyril Grayson. Would like to see him do good things next game as well. He has serious, serious speed that can hurt teams.

Carr ... meh. Sean is holding on to him like he did Tommy Lee.

Cruize 08-22-2019 08:16 AM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Thomas, Ginn, Smith, and Carr are locks. Kirkwood being banged up is not in his favor. He could end up on IR. They love Butler who has yet to show anything in games. Humphrey has shown well in the two preseason games. Harris is a legit returner who hasn't seen any snaps at WR. If they keep six, he makes it. Five almost certainly not. Cobbs has looked okay in preseason. Grayson has looked great. Good hands. Quick and fast in limited reps. In the numbers game, Arnold can get some reps at WR as well. The final two preseason games means a lot to a lot of players.

rezburna 08-22-2019 10:39 AM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 851618)
I just don't think Austin is the answer. Many will say "Southake AKA Jordan Humphrey isn't balling @ practice" however when the lights come on in actual games, he has shown the ability to make a big play.

We need guys who can high point balls (see Jordan) and snag the contested throws to keep the chains moving consistently.

I'm not seeing that with Carr. If we put Butler/Humphrey on the p/s, we could very well lose em.

Tough cuts are coming.

LJ Humphrey should make this team over Carr. I see Marques Colston in him. #11 has to make the team as well. Carr can go.

jeanpierre 08-24-2019 01:26 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 851693)
LJ Humphrey should make this team over Carr. I see Marques Colston in him. #11 has to make the team as well. Carr can go.

From what I've seen Emmanuel Butler looks more like the second coming of Marques Colston than Lil'Jordan, but Butler hasn't seen PreSeason, and Humphrey has only gotten few snaps in PreSeason, making the most of 'em...

Several media types I've talked with one-on-one still believe Carr is making this team though...

jeanpierre 08-24-2019 01:27 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2019 New Orleans Saints – PreSeason, Gm 3 New Orleans Saints @ New York Jets

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees, 5 - Teddy Bridgewater (FA 2019), 7 - Taysom Hill

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray (FA 2019),
27 - Dwayne Washington, 32 - Devine Ozigbo (UDFA 2019), 37 - Jacquizz Rodgers (FA 2019), 30 - Kerwynn Williams (FA 2019)
FB (1) 42 - Zach Line, 44 - Shane Smith (FA 2019), 46 - Michael Burton (FA 2019)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood, 15 - Simmie Cobbs, Jr., 17 - Emmanuel Butler (UDFA 2019)

WR-S (2) 80 - Austin Carr, 83 - Cyril Grayson (UDFA 2019), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (UDFA 2019)

LT (1) 72 - Terron Armstead, 77 - Marshall Newhouse (FA 2019), 73 - Ethan Greenidge (UDFA 2019)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Nick Easton (FA 2019), 64 - Will Clapp

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy (R2P16, #48), 66 - Ryan Groy (FA 2019), 61 - Marcus Henry (FA 2019)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 63 - Cameron Tom (ERFA 2019), 60 - Patrick Omameh (FA 2019)

RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 70 - Michael Ola (FA 2019), 68 - Derrick Kelly (UDFA 2019)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 85 - Dan Arnold, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 81 - A.J. Derby (FA 2019), 86 - Alizé Mack (R7P17, #231)

WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 14 - Travin Dural (FA 2019)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 99 - Geneo Grissom (FA 2019)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown (FA 2019), 95 - Taylor Stallworth, 96 - Sylvester Williams (FA 2019), 76 - Ziggy Hood (FA 2019)

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Mario Edwards, Jr. (FA 2019), 74 - Shy Tuttle (UDFA 2019)
98 - Sheldon Rankins (Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform)
LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 50 - Wes Horton (FA 2019), 69 - Corbin Kaufusi (UDFA 2019)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson (FA 2019), 51 - Colton Jumper (FA 2019), 54 - Josh Martin (FA 2019)

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss (R7P30, #244), 44 - Darnell Sankey (RFC 2019), 40 - Will Compton (FA 2019)

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 59 - Vince Biegel (ERFA 2019), 58 - Porter Gustin (UDFA 2019)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (ERFA 2019)

NCB (2) 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2019), 21 - Patrick Robinson

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo (FA 2019), 33 - Saquan Hampton (R6P4, #177), 38 - Terrell Williams, Jr. (FA 2019)

SS (2) 24 - Vonn Bell, 22 - Chauncey Gardner (R4P3, #105), 48 - J.T. Gray, 36 - T. J. Green (FA 2019)

LCB (2) 25 - Eli Apple, 20 - Ken Crawley (RFA 2019), 39 - Kayvon Webster (FA 2019)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz (RFA 2019)

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (ERFA 2019)

RS (1) 11 - Deonte Harris (UDFA 2019), 35 - Marcus Sherels (FA 2019)


Active Roster Count - Total: 90 (53); Offense: 45; Defense: 40; Kicking: 5


Reserve/Injured

37 - Javorius "Buck" Allen (FA 2019)

76 - Kenny Bigelow (UDFA 2019)

79 - Chris Clark (FA 2019)

30 - Matt Dayes (FA 2019)

65 - Ulrick John (FA 2019)


Reserve/Non-Football Injury

54 - Chase Hansen (UDFA 2019)

Reserve/Did Not Report

57 - Carl Granderson (UDFA 2019)


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2019)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2019)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2019)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2019)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

jeanpierre 08-24-2019 01:30 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

st thomas 08-24-2019 01:31 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 851889)
From what I've seen Emmanuel Butler looks more like the second coming of Marques Colston than Lil'Jordan, but Butler hasn't seen PreSeason, and Humphrey has only gotten few snaps in PreSeason, making the most of 'em...



Several media types I've talked with one-on-one still believe Carr is making this team though...



What is the deal with Carr I believe it’s his last year to shine or it’s bump around the league for a couple then done.

jeanpierre 08-24-2019 10:29 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
***UPDATED RECEIVERS***

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2019 New Orleans Saints – Predicting The Roster

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees, 5 - Teddy Bridgewater (FA 2019), 7 - Taysom Hill

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray (FA 2019), 32 - Devine Ozigbo (UDFA 2019)

FB (1) 42 - Zach Line

WR-X (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood, 17 - Emmanuel Butler (UDFA 2019)

WR-S (1) 80 - Austin Carr, 83 - Cyril Grayson (UDFA 2019)

LT (1) 72 - Terron Armstead

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 64 - Will Clapp

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy (R2P16, #48), 62 - Nick Easton (FA 2019)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 63 - Cameron Tom (ERFA 2019)

RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 81 - A.J. Derby (FA 2019)

WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 91 - Trey Hendrickson

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown (FA 2019), 95 - Taylor Stallworth

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Mario Edwards, Jr. (FA 2019)
98 - Sheldon Rankins (Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform)
LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 50 - Wes Horton (FA 2019)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson (FA 2019)

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss (R7P30, #244)

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 59 - Vince Biegel (ERFA 2019)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (ERFA 2019)

NCB (2) 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2019), 22 - Chauncey Gardner (R4P3, #105)

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 33 - Saquan Hampton (R6P4, #177)

SS (2) 24 - Vonn Bell, 31 - Chris Banjo (FA 2019)

LCB (2) 25 - Eli Apple, 21 - Patrick Robinson

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz (RFA 2019)

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (ERFA 2019)

RS (1) 11 - Deonte Harris (UDFA 2019)


Active Roster Count - Total: 53; Offense: 25; Defense: 24; Kicking: 4

ChrisXVI 08-24-2019 10:33 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Working on my own projection after that game JP. Definitely some big changes and some won’t be popular. I’ll sleep on it though and start fresh tomorrow.

jeanpierre 08-24-2019 10:38 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 852155)
Working on my own projection after that game JP. Definitely some big changes and some won’t be popular. I’ll sleep on it though and start fresh tomorrow.

If they could get some value, I wouldn't be surprised to see a trade of Tra'quan Smith and Grayson is kept...

But with Harris also showing out at WR, Grayson may have been nudge off the roster...

SmashMouth 08-24-2019 10:51 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 852158)
If they could get some value, I wouldn't be surprised to see a trade of Tra'quan Smith and Grayson is kept...

But with Harris also showing out at WR, Grayson may have been nudge off the roster...

PS is where Grayson is going.

jeanpierre 08-24-2019 11:00 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 852160)
PS is where Grayson is going.

I'd wish, but he's going on someone's roster, quick...

foreverfan 08-24-2019 11:01 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 851889)
From what I've seen Emmanuel Butler looks more like the second coming of Marques Colston than Lil'Jordan, but Butler hasn't seen PreSeason, and Humphrey has only gotten few snaps in PreSeason, making the most of 'em...

Several media types I've talked with one-on-one still believe Carr is making this team though...


They are hiding Humphrey so he will stay on the practice squad.

K Major 08-24-2019 11:14 PM

Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 852158)
If they could get some value, I wouldn't be surprised to see a trade of Tra'quan Smith and Grayson is kept...

But with Harris also showing out at WR, Grayson may have been nudge off the roster...

Don't see any value in a trade. Especially when un drafted guys are playing better.

Tre' needs to get it together but my goodness, he doesn't look ready.


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