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jeanpierre 08-24-2019 11:34 PM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 852162)
They are hiding Humphrey so he will stay on the practice squad.
Well, trying to at least...

foreverfan 08-25-2019 08:32 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 852174)
Well, trying to at least...

LOL... he does catch the ball fairly incredibly but he only runs a 4.65 40. Still, he is a very interesting potential player down the road. :eek:

ChrisXVI 08-25-2019 08:36 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 852162)
They are hiding Humphrey so he will stay on the practice squad.
That’s a pretty good possibility. I like his long-term potential.

vpheughan 08-25-2019 09:07 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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Attachment 13170 Saw the Amazon van dropping off a case of these! I wonder if it will "CAUSE A DISTRACTION?"

jeanpierre 08-25-2019 09:17 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 852227)
LOL... he does catch the ball fairly incredibly but he only runs a 4.65 40. Still, he is a very interesting potential player down the road. :eek:
So Lil'Jordan Humphrey, at his size, is as fast as Jerry Rice was...

When looking at 40 times, you really have to skew size and other factors...

His seam routes will inevitably involve YAC, yards after contact, but at his size, not very corner, or even safety, is going to be effective in tackling him...

ChrisXVI 08-25-2019 10:10 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
I don’t know what to do about back-up OT. Michael Ola is no good. I don’t think we have the back-up on the roster yet.

jeanpierre 08-25-2019 11:00 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 852242)
I don’t know what to do about back-up OT. Michael Ola is no good. I don’t think we have the back-up on the roster yet.
Yeah, and if history of the team under Payton tells us anything, they'll be several roster moves in the first two weeks of the season...

Backup OT wasn't a concern last year because Peat would kick out as he'd always done; but, in light of his conditioning and probably lack of full recovery, there may be a need for it...

Then again, it might also help Will Clapp's case as he can play effectively at all three interior spots as well as RT in a pinch...

ChrisXVI 08-25-2019 11:15 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 852250)
Yeah, and if history of the team under Payton tells us anything, they'll be several roster moves in the first two weeks of the season...

Backup OT wasn't a concern last year because Peat would kick out as he'd always done; but, in light of his conditioning and probably lack of full recovery, there may be a need for it...

Then again, it might also help Will Clapp's case as he can play effectively at all three interior spots as well as RT in a pinch...
That’s the thing with Peat... They kept him at LG a lot and sent in Bushrod last year to play LT. If Peat doesn’t have that versatility anymore then I don’t know what we’re holding onto him for at $9.6 mil.

jeanpierre 08-25-2019 11:24 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 852254)
That’s the thing with Peat... They kept him at LG a lot and sent in Bushrod last year to play LT. If Peat doesn’t have that versatility anymore then I don’t know what we’re holding onto him for at $9.6 mil.
Was there another option at that price on the market?

Norwell would've been the only upgrade, but he signed for significantly more than that...

And I didn't get that either with Bushrod as he did very well in Miami as a LG, guess the wanted continuity for Peat and didn't kick him out when Mr. Glass took holiday...

jeanpierre 08-25-2019 11:35 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Man, the more I look at our receiving optons, it comes down to this question:

What four of five to keep among Keith Kirkwood, Dan Arnold, Cyril Grayson, Austin Carr, and Emmanuel Butler...
  • Keith Kirkwood has the best hands I've seen on the team and given his development as a WR didn't begin till the NFL, that's a lot of talent there...

  • Dan Arnold has developed well, even if it wasn't a new postion, despite fans' obsession of two plays; am more concerned he's plateaued adding bulk to be an effective, all-around TE...
    But I really like having four (4) TEs...
  • Left Cyril Grayson off the roster, but he has rare speed; then Ted Ginn is 34yo; and Grayson's a legit RS threat himself; so few burners at WR; yeah, I'm rethinking leaving him off my projected roster...

  • Austin Carr has reliable hands and disciplined routes; has spent a lot of time in our offense; concerned with letting that walk-off...

  • Don't know enough about Emmanuel Butler's injury to know if he'll be fragile; but he sure looks like every bit of Marques Colston; may need to cement his job Week four...

jeanpierre 08-25-2019 11:36 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2019 New Orleans Saints – PreSeason, Gm 4 New Orleans Saints vs Miami Dolphins

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees, 5 - Teddy Bridgewater (FA 2019), 7 - Taysom Hill

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray (FA 2019),
27 - Dwayne Washington, 32 - Devine Ozigbo (UDFA 2019), 37 - Jacquizz Rodgers (FA 2019), 30 - Kerwynn Williams (FA 2019)
FB (1) 42 - Zach Line, 44 - Shane Smith (FA 2019), 46 - Michael Burton (FA 2019)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood, 15 - Simmie Cobbs, Jr., 17 - Emmanuel Butler (UDFA 2019)

WR-S (2) 80 - Austin Carr, 83 - Cyril Grayson (UDFA 2019), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (UDFA 2019)

LT (1) 72 - Terron Armstead, 77 - Marshall Newhouse (FA 2019), 73 - Ethan Greenidge (UDFA 2019)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Nick Easton (FA 2019), 64 - Will Clapp

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy (R2P16, #48), 66 - Ryan Groy (FA 2019), 61 - Marcus Henry (FA 2019)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 63 - Cameron Tom (ERFA 2019), 60 - Patrick Omameh (FA 2019)

RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 70 - Michael Ola (FA 2019), 68 - Derrick Kelly (UDFA 2019)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 81 - A.J. Derby (FA 2019), 85 - Dan Arnold, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - Alizé Mack (R7P17, #231)

WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 14 - Travin Dural (FA 2019)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 99 - Geneo Grissom (FA 2019)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown (FA 2019), 95 - Taylor Stallworth, 96 - Sylvester Williams (FA 2019), 76 - Ziggy Hood (FA 2019)

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Mario Edwards, Jr. (FA 2019), 74 - Shy Tuttle (UDFA 2019)
98 - Sheldon Rankins (Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform)
LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 50 - Wes Horton (FA 2019), 69 - Corbin Kaufusi (UDFA 2019)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson (FA 2019), 51 - Colton Jumper (FA 2019), 54 - Josh Martin (FA 2019)

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss (R7P30, #244), 44 - Darnell Sankey (RFC 2019), 40 - Will Compton (FA 2019)

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 59 - Vince Biegel (ERFA 2019), 58 - Porter Gustin (UDFA 2019)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (ERFA 2019)

NCB (2) 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2019), 21 - Patrick Robinson

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo (FA 2019), 33 - Saquan Hampton (R6P4, #177), 38 - Terrell Williams, Jr. (FA 2019)

SS (2) 24 - Vonn Bell, 22 - Chauncey Gardner (R4P3, #105), 48 - J.T. Gray, 36 - T. J. Green (FA 2019)

LCB (2) 25 - Eli Apple, 20 - Ken Crawley (RFA 2019), 39 - Kayvon Webster (FA 2019)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz (RFA 2019)

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (ERFA 2019)

RS (1) 11 - Deonte Harris (UDFA 2019), 35 - Marcus Sherels (FA 2019)


Active Roster Count - Total: 90 (53); Offense: 45; Defense: 40; Kicking: 5


Reserve/Injured

37 - Javorius "Buck" Allen (FA 2019)

76 - Kenny Bigelow (UDFA 2019)

79 - Chris Clark (FA 2019)

30 - Matt Dayes (FA 2019)

65 - Ulrick John (FA 2019)


Reserve/Non-Football Injury

54 - Chase Hansen (UDFA 2019)

Reserve/Did Not Report

57 - Carl Granderson (UDFA 2019)


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2019)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2019)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2019)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2019)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

ChrisXVI 08-25-2019 07:15 PM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
RB: 41 Alvin Kamara, 28 Latavius Murray, 27 Dwayne Washington, 32 Devine Ozigbo

I have to keep four RB’s. If makes me too nervous having any less.

WR: 13 Michael Thomas, 19 Ted Ginn Jr, 10 Tre’Quan Smith, 18 Keith Kirkwood, 17 Emmanuel Butler, 11 Deonte Harris

Not knowing the nature of Kirkwood’s injury, this is who I have making it right now. In this scenario, Butler would be inactive on game days while he develops. The team may very likely keep Austin Carr instead of Butler and try to sneak the latter onto the practice squad.

TE: 87 Jared Cook, 89 Josh Hill, 85 Dan Arnold, 85 AJ Derby

Dan Arnold has the occasional concentration lapse, but the man makes some excellent catches too. He has no issue making catches down the seam knowing he’s about to get drilled by a safety. I’m keeping AJ Derby as well. With really bad depth on the O-Line I want an extra TE that can block.

ChrisXVI 08-25-2019 07:36 PM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
CB: 23 Marshon Lattimore, 25 Eli Apple, 39 Kayvon Webster, 34 Justin Hardee

Nickel CB: 26 PJ Williams, 22 Chauncey Gardner-Johnson

That’s right folks, no PRob. He’s had no first-team reps at nickel and he’s shown this preseason that he has no value on the outside. Here’s the issue though: we have to trade him. If we cut him it’s a $5.25 mil cap hit. Trading him will only carry a $1.25 mil cap hit with $4 mil in space opened up. He’s likely to only fetch a late-round pick but I think it’s a smart move.

FS: 43 Marcus Williams, 33 Saquan Hampton

SS: 24 Vonn Bell, 48 JT Gray

We don’t know the nature of Hampton’s injury so it could be Banjo in his place. Assuming Hampton is fine, I’m cutting Banjo because he’s been awful. I like what I’ve seen from JT Gray. He’s great on special teams and seeing him get reps with the 2’s last night made me think the coaches like him more than the fans.

jeanpierre 08-25-2019 08:07 PM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Chris, per Over The Cap...

Cutting Chris Banjo would result in $1.45mil dead cap money and only $50K in savings; trading him would reduce the cap hit to $600K and $900K in savings...

Banjo, like Robertson, has a guaranteed contract this season virtually guaranteeing a roster spot...

So either we take the hit or trade Banjo if we want that slot for Hampton...

And I'm in your camp there, I'd prefer to keep Hampton...

ChrisXVI 08-25-2019 08:21 PM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 852305)
Chris, per Over The Cap...

Cutting Chris Banjo would result in $1.45mil dead cap money and only $50K in savings; trading him would reduce the cap hit to $600K and $900K in savings...

Banjo, like Robertson, has a guaranteed contract this season virtually guaranteeing a roster spot...

So either we take the hit or trade Banjo if we want that slot for Hampton...

And I'm in your camp there, I'd prefer to keep Hampton...
D’oh! You’re right about Banjo. Nobody will trade for him though. That’s ok... we normally keep five safeties anyway and I’m classifying CGJ as a nickel CB.

FS: 43 Marcus Williams, 33 Saquan Hampton, 31 Chris Banjo

SS: 24 Vonn Bell, 48 JT Gray

jeanpierre 08-25-2019 08:23 PM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 852308)
D’oh! You’re right about Banjo. Nobody will trade for him though. That’s ok... we normally keep five safeties anyway and I’m classifying CGJ as a nickel CB.

FS: 43 Marcus Williams, 33 Saquan Hampton, 31 Chris Banjo

SS: 24 Vonn Bell, 48 JT Gray
Not necessarily, sometimes you get those wink-wink, nod-nod deals where you trade a guy for a cond'l pick if he makes the roster or starts 50% of the games deal with another friendly trade partner...

But I'd be really surprised we take a $1mil cap hit to cut a reserve/kick coverage player...

ChrisXVI 08-25-2019 08:28 PM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
I suppose Hampton’s been MIA so if he ends up on IR then it’s a non-issue. Keeping Banjo puts me at 54 on my projection though and I have no idea where to subtract one.

jeanpierre 08-26-2019 04:43 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 852310)
I suppose Hampton’s been MIA so if he ends up on IR then it’s a non-issue. Keeping Banjo puts me at 54 on my projection though and I have no idea where to subtract one.
Right, huh?!? Have never a Saints Roster this deep. It's not perfect, but in the day and age of Free Agency/Salary Cap, some dumb luck with UDFA and the Draft, this roster is as solid as any contender...

jeanpierre 08-26-2019 06:48 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 852168)
Don't see any value in a trade. Especially when un drafted guys are playing better.

Tre' needs to get it together but my goodness, he doesn't look ready.
The only value would be to teams lower in the waivers process who need depth, or in some cases like the G'nats - need someone to play WR...

vpheughan 08-26-2019 06:58 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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try to sneak the latter onto the practice squad. Attachment 13171

Just like they "snuck" Ryan Griffin? If he should make it he can be signed by another team then the Saints would then have to promote him to the active roster to retain him. See Boston Scott. Did anyone notice his "Bruising" one yard TD run in the Eagles first Preseason game?

jeanpierre 08-26-2019 07:02 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2019 New Orleans Saints – PreSeason, Gm 4 New Orleans Saints vs Miami Dolphins

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees, 5 - Teddy Bridgewater (FA 2019), 7 - Taysom Hill

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray (FA 2019),
27 - Dwayne Washington, 32 - Devine Ozigbo (UDFA 2019), 37 - Jacquizz Rodgers (FA 2019), 30 - Kerwynn Williams (FA 2019)
FB (1) 42 - Zach Line, 44 - Shane Smith (FA 2019), 46 - Michael Burton (FA 2019)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood, 15 - Simmie Cobbs, Jr., 17 - Emmanuel Butler (UDFA 2019)

WR-S (2) 80 - Austin Carr, 83 - Cyril Grayson (UDFA 2019), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (UDFA 2019)

LT (1) 72 - Terron Armstead, 77 - Marshall Newhouse (FA 2019), 73 - Ethan Greenidge (UDFA 2019)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Nick Easton (FA 2019), 64 - Will Clapp

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy (R2P16, #48), 66 - Ryan Groy (FA 2019), 61 - Marcus Henry (FA 2019)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 63 - Cameron Tom (ERFA 2019), 60 - Patrick Omameh (FA 2019)

RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 70 - Michael Ola (FA 2019), 68 - Derrick Kelly (UDFA 2019)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 81 - A.J. Derby (FA 2019), 85 - Dan Arnold, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - Alizé Mack (R7P17, #231)

WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 14 - Travin Dural (FA 2019)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 99 - Geneo Grissom (FA 2019)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown (FA 2019), 95 - Taylor Stallworth, 96 - Sylvester Williams (FA 2019), 76 - Ziggy Hood (FA 2019)

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Mario Edwards, Jr. (FA 2019), 74 - Shy Tuttle (UDFA 2019)
98 - Sheldon Rankins (Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform)
LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 50 - Wes Horton (FA 2019), 69 - Corbin Kaufusi (UDFA 2019)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson (FA 2019), 51 - Colton Jumper (FA 2019), 54 - Josh Martin (FA 2019)

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss (R7P30, #244), 44 - Darnell Sankey (RFC 2019), 40 - Will Compton (FA 2019)

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 59 - Vince Biegel (ERFA 2019), 58 - Porter Gustin (UDFA 2019)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (ERFA 2019)

NCB (2) 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2019), 21 - Patrick Robinson

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo (FA 2019), 33 - Saquan Hampton (R6P4, #177), 38 - Terrell Williams, Jr. (FA 2019)

SS (2) 24 - Vonn Bell, 22 - Chauncey Gardner (R4P3, #105), 48 - J.T. Gray, 36 - T. J. Green (FA 2019)

LCB (2) 25 - Eli Apple, 20 - Ken Crawley (RFA 2019), 39 - Kayvon Webster (FA 2019)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz (RFA 2019)

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (ERFA 2019)

RS (1) 11 - Deonte Harris (UDFA 2019), 35 - Marcus Sherels (FA 2019)


Active Roster Count - Total: 90 (53); Offense: 45; Defense: 40; Kicking: 5


Reserve/Injured

37 - Javorius "Buck" Allen (FA 2019)

76 - Kenny Bigelow (UDFA 2019)

79 - Chris Clark (FA 2019)

30 - Matt Dayes (FA 2019)

65 - Ulrick John (FA 2019)


Reserve/Non-Football Injury

54 - Chase Hansen (UDFA 2019)

Reserve/Did Not Report

57 - Carl Granderson (UDFA 2019)


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2019)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2019)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2019)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2019)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

jeanpierre 08-26-2019 07:07 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 852301)

TE: 87 Jared Cook, 89 Josh Hill, 85 Dan Arnold, 85 AJ Derby

Dan Arnold has the occasional concentration lapse, but the man makes some excellent catches too. He has no issue making catches down the seam knowing he’s about to get drilled by a safety.
I'm still amazed how many fans want to write-off this talent; no one b*tched about the officiating in the NFCCG until the infamous "no-call", but he was mauled in the end-zone by two Rams defenders and "no-call"...

Fans have no appreciation what he's been tasked - learning a new position, IN THE NFL NO LESS; as well as being asked to bulk-up, likely a minimum of 30lbs, IN LESS THAN A YEAR; and learn to be an in-line blocker!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 852301)
I’m keeping AJ Derby as well. With really bad depth on the O-Line I want an extra TE that can block.
Yeah, Derby is a good change of pace and has good size; know many are excited, big on Cook, but I look at that man's skinny legs and his career numbers, he's not a full-time starter, but a great complimentary TE...

So having four (4) TEs gives us different looks and match-up opportunities...

ChrisXVI 08-26-2019 07:32 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
According to... I think Seth Dunlap (not certain and I can’t dig up the tweet right now) there’s legit discussion amongst coaches about Trey Hendrickson starting over Davenport.

K Major 08-26-2019 07:39 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
NCB (2) 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2019), 21 - Patrick Robinson

I just don't know about PRob any more.

Beastmode 08-26-2019 07:41 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
The thinking is Davenport will be brought in on 3rd and long from what I think I heard so being the starter might not mean much. They will be switched out often or, both in the DL. It's scenario based and less to do with Davenport is inferior.

K Major 08-26-2019 07:53 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 852331)
According to... I think Seth Dunlap (not certain and I can’t dig up the tweet right now) there’s legit discussion amongst coaches about Trey Hendrickson starting over Davenport.
Starting a guy (Trey) who is still a liability against the run? Let's be real for a second. TRex has had good games in pre season but he's been disruptive against backups, 2nd tier guys & players who are truly on the bubble for their respective ball clubs. On passing downs, sure insert Trey as part of the rotation but to start ? ...

Careful here.

FWIW, Davenport looked good vs Jets 1's.

jeanpierre 08-26-2019 08:55 AM
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jeanpierre 08-26-2019 09:49 AM
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K Major 08-26-2019 10:19 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
32 - Devine Ozigbo (UDFA 2019

I re watched the Jets game ... Devine has soft hands out of the backfield. So fluid to say he's a rookie. In Sean Payton's offense ...that's huge. He is that guy some were looking for in Boston Scott last camp.

If I'm the Saints RB coach, I can't cut Dwayne (s/t ace) or Ozigbo. They both bring value to the table.

K Major 08-26-2019 10:47 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore < ----- watching him strip the ball cleanly and forcing a turnover was refreshing.

jeanpierre 08-26-2019 11:08 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2019 New Orleans Saints – PreSeason, Gm 4 New Orleans Saints vs Miami Dolphins

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 – Drew Brees, 5 - Teddy Bridgewater (FA 2019), 7 - Taysom Hill

RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray (FA 2019),
27 - Dwayne Washington, 32 - Devine Ozigbo (UDFA 2019), 37 - Jacquizz Rodgers (FA 2019), 30 - Kerwynn Williams (FA 2019)
FB (1) 42 - Zach Line, 44 - Shane Smith (FA 2019), 46 - Michael Burton (FA 2019)

WR-X (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood, 15 - Simmie Cobbs, Jr., 17 - Emmanuel Butler (UDFA 2019)

WR-S (2) 80 - Austin Carr, 83 - Cyril Grayson (UDFA 2019), 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey (UDFA 2019)

LT (1) 72 - Terron Armstead, 77 - Marshall Newhouse (FA 2019), 73 - Ethan Greenidge (UDFA 2019)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Nick Easton (FA 2019), 64 - Will Clapp

C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy (R2P16, #48), 66 - Ryan Groy (FA 2019), 61 - Marcus Henry (FA 2019)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 63 - Cameron Tom (ERFA 2019), 60 - Patrick Omameh (FA 2019)

RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk, 70 - Michael Ola (FA 2019), 68 - Derrick Kelly (UDFA 2019)

TE (3) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 81 - A.J. Derby (FA 2019), 85 - Dan Arnold, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 86 - Alizé Mack (R7P17, #231)

WR-Z (2) 19 - Ted Ginn, 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 14 - Travin Dural (FA 2019)


DEFENSE

RDE (2) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 99 - Geneo Grissom (FA 2019)

NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown (FA 2019), 95 - Taylor Stallworth, 96 - Sylvester Williams (FA 2019), 76 - Ziggy Hood (FA 2019)

DT3 (2) 93 - David Onyemata, 97 - Mario Edwards, Jr. (FA 2019), 74 - Shy Tuttle (UDFA 2019)
98 - Sheldon Rankins (Reserve/Physically Unable to Perform)
LDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 50 - Wes Horton (FA 2019), 69 - Corbin Kaufusi (UDFA 2019)

WLB (2) 56 - DeMario Davis, 52 - Craig Robertson (FA 2019), 51 - Colton Jumper (FA 2019), 54 - Josh Martin (FA 2019)

MLB (2) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 55 - Kaden Elliss (R7P30, #244), 44 - Darnell Sankey (RFC 2019), 40 - Will Compton (FA 2019)

SLB (2) 53 - A.J. Klein, 59 - Vince Biegel (ERFA 2019), 58 - Porter Gustin (UDFA 2019)

RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (ERFA 2019)

NCB (2) 26 - P.J. Williams (FA 2019), 21 - Patrick Robinson

FS (2) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 31 - Chris Banjo (FA 2019), 33 - Saquan Hampton (R6P4, #177), 38 - Terrell Williams, Jr. (FA 2019)

SS (2) 24 - Vonn Bell, 22 - Chauncey Gardner (R4P3, #105), 48 - J.T. Gray, 36 - T. J. Green (FA 2019)

LCB (2) 25 - Eli Apple, 20 - Ken Crawley (RFA 2019), 39 - Kayvon Webster (FA 2019)

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz (RFA 2019)

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (ERFA 2019)

RS (1) 11 - Deonte Harris (UDFA 2019), 35 - Marcus Sherels (FA 2019)


Active Roster Count - Total: 90 (53); Offense: 45; Defense: 40; Kicking: 5


Reserve/Injured

37 - Javorius "Buck" Allen (FA 2019)

76 - Kenny Bigelow (UDFA 2019)

79 - Chris Clark (FA 2019)

30 - Matt Dayes (FA 2019)

65 - Ulrick John (FA 2019)


Reserve/Non-Football Injury

54 - Chase Hansen (UDFA 2019)

Reserve/Did Not Report

57 - Carl Granderson (UDFA 2019)


KEY:

Projected Starter

Free Agent (FA 2019)

Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2019)

Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2019)

Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#)

Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2019)

Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP

jeanpierre 08-26-2019 11:09 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 852350)
32 - Devine Ozigbo (UDFA 2019

I re watched the Jets game ... Devine has soft hands out of the backfield. So fluid to say he's a rookie. In Sean Payton's offense ...that's huge. He is that guy some were looking for in Boston Scott last camp.

If I'm the Saints RB coach, I can't cut Dwayne (s/t ace) or Ozigbo. They both bring value to the table.
So we'd keep a fourth RB that's pretty much exclusive to special teams? Definitely agree Ozigbo gives you something on third downs - and he looked like a better runner between the tackles...

Zach Line can give you that same plodding boom-boom-boom that Washington gives you; Zach Line came into the league as a RB, holding rushing records in the NCAAs...

K Major 08-26-2019 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 852362)
So we'd keep a fourth RB that's pretty much exclusive to special teams? Definitely agree Ozigbo gives you something on third downs - and he looked like a better runner between the tackles...

Zach Line can give you that same plodding boom-boom-boom that Washington gives you; Zach Line came into the league as a RB, holding rushing records in the NCAAs...
I still believe Sean will stick with the proven vet (Dwayne) however you aren't going to be able to hide Ozigbo on the p/s.

Now with Dwayne getting concussed (dirty hit if you ask me) vs Jets, Devine will get more than enough touches vs Miami for coaches to evaluate and discuss.

rezburna 08-26-2019 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 852366)
I still believe Sean will stick with the proven vet (Dwayne) however you aren't going to be able to hide Ozigbo on the p/s.

Now with Dwayne getting concussed (dirty hit if you ask me) vs Jets, Devine will get more than enough touches vs Miami for coaches to evaluate and discuss.
I’d really rather have a healthy Buck Allen over Washington.

K Major 08-26-2019 11:50 AM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
I just read that PRob's contract is fully guaranteed this season so highly doubtful he goes anywhere for 2019.

Source - > https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orle...robinson-6541/

** It's specified in the 2nd bullet point under "Contract Notes"

SaintsBro 08-26-2019 12:56 PM
Re: 2019 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
I told my wife I wanted Ozigbo to make the team, just because I like saying his name more than Washington.

I'm also not feeling Patrick Robinson. Yes he was on the Eagles Super Bowl roster, but the two years he fully started for us were the listless, uninspired bad defense, 7-9 type years, and he was part of the all-time worst defense under Spags. Maybe the coaches and people see things in the analytics, bringing him back, but I'm just not feeling him in my gut.

vpheughan 08-26-2019 06:25 PM
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PRob = Byrd

jeanpierre 08-26-2019 10:28 PM
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Damn, he'd worked so hard too - he needed a TE number, that FB number jinxed him...

jeanpierre 08-27-2019 11:00 AM
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