I Want Drew Brees Back IF.......

saintsfan1976 · 01-13-2020, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

From my perspective it won't matter if it's Brees, Taysom or 2 Glove Teddy ...

Sean Payton and the brain trust MUST surround the aforementioned QB with better options at wide receiver. Carr, Jordan Humphries, Kirkwood, Ginn, Tre Smith (year 3 and he hasn't progressed) ain't those dudes. Without pulling stats, I think it's safe to say they had less than a combined 50 receptions all season long. Michael Thomas has 150 RECEPTIONS by himself. Just imagine if we didn't have Jared Cook at TE.

It's mind boggling this has yet to be addressed & it part of the reason why we are at home in Mid January. You either bring in a PROVEN COMMODITY @ WR during Free Agency or you DRAFT one. If you don't, it'll be another recipe for heart break in the post season. The Niners were a good team with a nice record but wasn't going to the NFC Championship until Emmanuel Sanders got there.

Brees can't turn those guys into Lance Moore/Slick Willie Snead's anymore.

Saints have one of the best scouting departments in the NFL. It's time to go get a true #2 WR in April's draft. He's out there.

2020 could be an historic WR draft. We may get TWO! And if so we cut bait with one of the others.

NOLA54 · 01-13-2020, 10:48 PM

What/who are you willing to give up to get Joe Burrow?

K Major · 01-14-2020, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by NOLA54

What/who are you willing to give up to get Joe Burrow?

Burrow is going to the Bengals & that's assuming they aren't stupid enough to trade picks with New England.

Saints have 0 shot @ Joe.

st thomas · 01-15-2020, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Burrow is going to the Bengals & that's assuming they aren't stupid enough to trade picks with New England.

Saints have 0 shot @ Joe.

Oh yea they throwing stuff now out there that Carolina will sell the farm to get joe. That new owner is new and might be dumb enough nooooo way 2- #1s, a 2 , and 2 3rd rders life in prison is a better deal. I love the media

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OldMaid · 01-14-2020, 11:30 AM

I want Brees back if The N.O.Saints still play in the N.O Superdome and if SeanP and his staff are still here.
Just let him retire here.
In the meantime, start drafting and trading.

This is a subject just no one here wants to talk about.
Time is coming up for the Saints , entire team, and coaching staff to change. Leave. Saints regroup.

No one wants these good times to end.
It has been really exciting.
The 10 years,overall, of SP and his staff .
Good times . Unbelievable times no one ever thought would for all the awful. When it was awful, we still thought was good. People made their own fun.
Saints won a game. One game in 1980 or 1981. Hey, at least they won a game. We were happy.
The 8-8, 9-7 years , ahhhh,that was it.
You know the rest.

I am sorry for posting a negative.

skymike · 01-18-2020, 06:37 PM

[QUOTE=OldMaid;877246...It has been really exciting.
The 10 years,overall, of SP and his staff .
Good times . Unbelievable times no one ever thought would for all the awful. When it was awful, we still thought was good. People made their own fun.
Saints won a game. One game in 1980 or 1981. Hey, at least they won a game. We were happy.
The 8-8, 9-7 years , ahhhh,that was it.
You know the rest.
[/QUOTE]Amen S. These young-uns dont remember Dave Wilson. Or the Billy Joes, or Ken Stabler who should have retired after Houston.

My question to the board is this:

How many incumbent QB's playing right now for other teams would you rather have than Brees? How many, and name them?

Lets see who you think, among active NFL QB's is better than Drew.

I'll bet the number is less than 4.

Dont give me all that salary cap blah blah --- I'm not interested, and have never been interested in the money talk. Im into Football, not Accounting.

As a football player, a Quarterback, I think 28 teams wish they had Drew Brees.

AsylumGuido · 01-18-2020, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

Amen S. These young-uns dont remember Dave Wilson. Or the Billy Joes, or Ken Stabler who should have retired after Houston.

My question to the board is this:

How many incumbent QB's playing right now for other teams would you rather have than Brees? How many, and name them?

Lets see who you think, among active NFL QB's is better than Drew.

I'll bet the number is less than 4.

Dont give me all that salary cap blah blah --- I'm not interested, and have never been interested in the money talk. Im into Football, not Accounting.

As a football player, a Quarterback, I think 28 teams wish they had Drew Brees.

Preachin' to this choir, Mike. As Brees stands right now he is still the best QB we have ever had in our history and one of the greatest to have ever played the game.

TheOak · 01-19-2020, 04:46 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

Amen S. These young-uns dont remember Dave Wilson. Or the Billy Joes, or Ken Stabler who should have retired after Houston.

My question to the board is this:

How many incumbent QB's playing right now for other teams would you rather have than Brees? How many, and name them?

Lets see who you think, among active NFL QB's is better than Drew.

I'll bet the number is less than 4.

Dont give me all that salary cap blah blah --- I'm not interested, and have never been interested in the money talk. Im into Football, not Accounting.

As a football player, a Quarterback, I think 28 teams wish they had Drew Brees.

Fan's have a bad habit of turning something that isn't a strength into a weakness and ignoring the real strengths.

"arm strength" is often cited as an issue.. Well lets bring in JaMarcus Russelland see how people like the trade to arm strength away from decision making.

"tries to force plays".. Alex Smith is good at forcing absolutely nothing. Lets bring him in.

For years fans wanted Drew gone because of interceptions, now they have found something different.. Most fans forget or never knew what it was like to wait for Drew Brees to come to the Saints.

TheOak · 01-14-2020, 01:15 PM

Sometimes we have knee jerk ideas that we should hear read back to ourselves in a different wording.

We have people that want to get rid of statistically the most accurate passer in the league for 0.02% of his throws.

Assuming a best possible case scenario I used Dak Prescott as he has the most 40+ yard passes at 16 which is 0.02% of his passes.

Less than 1 pass per game is why we want to replace our QB... let that sink in.

They want to get rid of a QB for an interception, the same QB that has the best TD/Int ratio for the season.

blackangold · 01-14-2020, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Sometimes we have knee jerk ideas that we should hear read back to ourselves in a different wording.

We have people that want to get rid of statistically the most accurate passer in the league for 0.02% of his throws.

Assuming a best possible case scenario I used Dak Prescott as he has the most 40+ yard passes at 16 which is 0.02% of his passes.

Less than 1 pass per game is why we want to replace our QB... let that sink in.

They want to get rid of a QB for an interception, the same QB that has the best TD/Int ratio for the season.

It's not the 40 yard bombs that we need, it's efficiency for passes that are 20+ yards out.

You can see through the charts here https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/...rees/BRE229498 that Drew really struggled this year to get the ball down the field. I wish they broke it down to passes of 15+ yards, because if you look at the game charts you can see once he hits the 15+ yard mark it goes to ****.

In the 2019 total chart it's easy to see the deficiency, and although it shows some success throwing to the right and deep, he only had a few passes thrown that way all year (numbers are skewed).

01-14-2020, 11:51 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,830 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by NOLA54 What/who are you willing to give up to get Joe Burrow? Burrow is going to the Bengals & that's assuming they aren't stupid enough to trade picks with New England. Saints have 0 shot @ Joe. OldMaid likes this.

01-15-2020, 09:33 AM	#4
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by K Major Burrow is going to the Bengals & that's assuming they aren't stupid enough to trade picks with New England. Saints have 0 shot @ Joe. Oh yea they throwing stuff now out there that Carolina will sell the farm to get joe. That new owner is new and might be dumb enough nooooo way 2- #1s, a 2 , and 2 3rd rders life in prison is a better deal. I love the media Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

01-14-2020, 11:30 AM	#5
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,919 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... I want Brees back if The N.O.Saints still play in the N.O Superdome and if SeanP and his staff are still here. Just let him retire here. In the meantime, start drafting and trading. This is a subject just no one here wants to talk about. Time is coming up for the Saints , entire team, and coaching staff to change. Leave. Saints regroup. No one wants these good times to end. It has been really exciting. The 10 years,overall, of SP and his staff . Good times . Unbelievable times no one ever thought would for all the awful. When it was awful, we still thought was good. People made their own fun. Saints won a game. One game in 1980 or 1981. Hey, at least they won a game. We were happy. The 8-8, 9-7 years , ahhhh,that was it. You know the rest. I am sorry for posting a negative. Crusader and skymike like this.

01-18-2020, 06:37 PM	#6
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... [QUOTE=OldMaid;877246...It has been really exciting. The 10 years,overall, of SP and his staff . Good times . Unbelievable times no one ever thought would for all the awful. When it was awful, we still thought was good. People made their own fun. Saints won a game. One game in 1980 or 1981. Hey, at least they won a game. We were happy. The 8-8, 9-7 years , ahhhh,that was it. You know the rest. [/QUOTE]Amen S. These young-uns dont remember Dave Wilson. Or the Billy Joes, or Ken Stabler who should have retired after Houston. My question to the board is this: How many incumbent QB's playing right now for other teams would you rather have than Brees? How many, and name them? Lets see who you think, among active NFL QB's is better than Drew. I'll bet the number is less than 4. Dont give me all that salary cap blah blah --- I'm not interested, and have never been interested in the money talk. Im into Football, not Accounting. As a football player, a Quarterback, I think 28 teams wish they had Drew Brees. lynwood and Budsdrinker like this.

01-18-2020, 08:08 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by skymike Amen S. These young-uns dont remember Dave Wilson. Or the Billy Joes, or Ken Stabler who should have retired after Houston. My question to the board is this: How many incumbent QB's playing right now for other teams would you rather have than Brees? How many, and name them? Lets see who you think, among active NFL QB's is better than Drew. I'll bet the number is less than 4. Dont give me all that salary cap blah blah --- I'm not interested, and have never been interested in the money talk. Im into Football, not Accounting. As a football player, a Quarterback, I think 28 teams wish they had Drew Brees. Preachin' to this choir, Mike. As Brees stands right now he is still the best QB we have ever had in our history and one of the greatest to have ever played the game. skymike likes this.

01-13-2020, 10:34 PM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,021 Blog Entries: 3	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by K Major From my perspective it won't matter if it's Brees, Taysom or 2 Glove Teddy ... Sean Payton and the brain trust MUST surround the aforementioned QB with better options at wide receiver. Carr, Jordan Humphries, Kirkwood, Ginn, Tre Smith (year 3 and he hasn't progressed) ain't those dudes. Without pulling stats, I think it's safe to say they had less than a combined 50 receptions all season long. Michael Thomas has 150 RECEPTIONS by himself. Just imagine if we didn't have Jared Cook at TE. It's mind boggling this has yet to be addressed & it part of the reason why we are at home in Mid January. You either bring in a PROVEN COMMODITY @ WR during Free Agency or you DRAFT one. If you don't, it'll be another recipe for heart break in the post season. The Niners were a good team with a nice record but wasn't going to the NFC Championship until Emmanuel Sanders got there. Brees can't turn those guys into Lance Moore/Slick Willie Snead's anymore. Saints have one of the best scouting departments in the NFL. It's time to go get a true #2 WR in April's draft. He's out there. 2020 could be an historic WR draft. We may get TWO! And if so we cut bait with one of the others. K Major and shawnkytonk like this.

01-13-2020, 10:48 PM	#2
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01-19-2020, 04:46 AM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by skymike Amen S. These young-uns dont remember Dave Wilson. Or the Billy Joes, or Ken Stabler who should have retired after Houston. My question to the board is this: How many incumbent QB's playing right now for other teams would you rather have than Brees? How many, and name them? Lets see who you think, among active NFL QB's is better than Drew. I'll bet the number is less than 4. Dont give me all that salary cap blah blah --- I'm not interested, and have never been interested in the money talk. Im into Football, not Accounting. As a football player, a Quarterback, I think 28 teams wish they had Drew Brees. Fan's have a bad habit of turning something that isn't a strength into a weakness and ignoring the real strengths. "arm strength" is often cited as an issue.. Well lets bring in JaMarcus Russelland see how people like the trade to arm strength away from decision making. "tries to force plays".. Alex Smith is good at forcing absolutely nothing. Lets bring him in. For years fans wanted Drew gone because of interceptions, now they have found something different.. Most fans forget or never knew what it was like to wait for Drew Brees to come to the Saints. AsylumGuido, skymike and shawnkytonk like this.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

01-14-2020, 01:15 PM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Sometimes we have knee jerk ideas that we should hear read back to ourselves in a different wording. We have people that want to get rid of statistically the most accurate passer in the league for 0.02% of his throws. Assuming a best possible case scenario I used Dak Prescott as he has the most 40+ yard passes at 16 which is 0.02% of his passes. Less than 1 pass per game is why we want to replace our QB... let that sink in. They want to get rid of a QB for an interception, the same QB that has the best TD/Int ratio for the season. Budsdrinker and Rell&Gold like this.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

01-14-2020, 01:51 PM	#10
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by TheOak Sometimes we have knee jerk ideas that we should hear read back to ourselves in a different wording. We have people that want to get rid of statistically the most accurate passer in the league for 0.02% of his throws. Assuming a best possible case scenario I used Dak Prescott as he has the most 40+ yard passes at 16 which is 0.02% of his passes. Less than 1 pass per game is why we want to replace our QB... let that sink in. They want to get rid of a QB for an interception, the same QB that has the best TD/Int ratio for the season. It's not the 40 yard bombs that we need, it's efficiency for passes that are 20+ yards out. You can see through the charts here https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/...rees/BRE229498 that Drew really struggled this year to get the ball down the field. I wish they broke it down to passes of 15+ yards, because if you look at the game charts you can see once he hits the 15+ yard mark it goes to ****. In the 2019 total chart it's easy to see the deficiency, and although it shows some success throwing to the right and deep, he only had a few passes thrown that way all year (numbers are skewed).
	The Saints are 0-42 when running the ball less than 15 times in a game.