N/S Your take on the XFL

WillMacKenzie · 03-04-2020, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

When a business sets out to compete with another business, it does so in the same space. Same space means exactly that, the same exact space. The XFL season is Feb.-Apr. and with the two leagues having different seasons there is truly zero competition for fans or viewership.

It doesn't matter what the XFL's product is like it doesn't compete with the NFL's product until it is in the same time slot.

The XFL's goal is to make a business of filling the void after the NFL season is over. They are hoping to ride the wave of football enthusiasm.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Just not true. It’s can be incredibly stupid to fight the alpha head to head, but if you can develop a loyalty and subvert his followers, you don’t have to.

A kid doesn’t compete with an adult — yet. But that doesn’t mean it’s not a future threat.

Especially with an aging product that’s already stepped in it with its most loyal fans.

I agree that right this minute, no, it’s no competition. But someone else in the kingdom accruing talent and trying to establish a brand should raise a smart king’s eyebrows.

jeanpierre · 03-04-2020, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

Just not true. It’s can be incredibly stupid to fight the alpha head to head, but if you can develop a loyalty and subvert his followers, you don’t have to.

A kid doesn’t compete with an adult — yet. But that doesn’t mean it’s not a future threat.

Especially with an aging product that’s already stepped in it with its most loyal fans.

I agree that right this minute, no, it’s no competition. But someone else in the kingdom accruing talent and trying to establish a brand should raise a smart king’s eyebrows.

Think you need to slow down and read the totality of Oak's post and not try to parse it out...

The only competition would be in off-season merchandise sales to the NFL that limited disposable income of consumers might spend on the XFL.

As so far as a future threat, HISTORY (for those who understand its importance to study, get it right) shows that if anything, should the XFL be viable, we'll see a merger of new markets and adoption of new rules...

WillMacKenzie · 03-04-2020, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Think you need to slow down and read the totality of Oak's post and not try to parse it out...

The only competition would be in off-season merchandise sales to the NFL that limited disposable income of consumers might spend on the XFL.

As so far as a future threat, HISTORY (for those who understand its importance to study, get it right) shows that if anything, should the XFL be viable, we'll see a merger of new markets and adoption of new rules...

The future is what I’m getting at, considering the growing age of the NFL’s fanbase, the growing specter of refs fixing games, the growing female support (but also the domestic violence problem), the anthem issues, etc etc, it’s not completely out of the question that the NFL could be vulnerable.

All that being said, I don’t know the motivations of the XFL, so I can’t say for certain what the really intend other than a spring league for castoffs to get more exposure and possibly sign with an NFL team in the future.

AsylumGuido · 03-05-2020, 08:20 AM

Cam Jordan will be appearing as a sideline reporter at this Saturday's XFL game between Dallas and New York.

TheOak · 03-04-2020, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

Just not true. It’s can be incredibly stupid to fight the alpha head to head, but if you can develop a loyalty and subvert his followers, you don’t have to.

A kid doesn’t compete with an adult — yet. But that doesn’t mean it’s not a future threat.

Especially with an aging product that’s already stepped in it with its most loyal fans.

I agree that right this minute, no, it’s no competition. But someone else in the kingdom accruing talent and trying to establish a brand should raise a smart king’s eyebrows.

It is simply true, and if NFL fans watch XFL after the NFL season is over then those fans are not diverted.

A child and a parent do compete, they both play in the same financial space. Some times mom gets a purse before dad gets an xbox game or a child gets a new toy.

So you are making a distinction without as difference. I am correct now but things could change? If things change then the reason they are not competing changes or goes away. No where in my post did I say "they will never compete".

In regards to the NFL market, watching XFL is no different than watching spring MLB which is actually in the same space as XFL

When or if the XFL moves its season to Sep-Jan or acquires enough cash to lure NFL players out of the NFL we can certainly revisit. I can see how some lower paid NFL players (kickers possibly) might entertain Playing NFL and XFL which proves they are not in competition or conflict as a person could do both. (baring contract language preventing that from happening)

03-04-2020, 07:24 AM	#1
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: N/S Your take on the XFL Originally Posted by TheOak When a business sets out to compete with another business, it does so in the same space. Same space means exactly that, the same exact space. The XFL season is Feb.-Apr. and with the two leagues having different seasons there is truly zero competition for fans or viewership. It doesn't matter what the XFL's product is like it doesn't compete with the NFL's product until it is in the same time slot. The XFL's goal is to make a business of filling the void after the NFL season is over. They are hoping to ride the wave of football enthusiasm. Nothing more, nothing less. Just not true. It’s can be incredibly stupid to fight the alpha head to head, but if you can develop a loyalty and subvert his followers, you don’t have to. A kid doesn’t compete with an adult — yet. But that doesn’t mean it’s not a future threat. Especially with an aging product that’s already stepped in it with its most loyal fans. I agree that right this minute, no, it’s no competition. But someone else in the kingdom accruing talent and trying to establish a brand should raise a smart king’s eyebrows.

03-04-2020, 07:33 AM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: N/S Your take on the XFL Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie Just not true. It’s can be incredibly stupid to fight the alpha head to head, but if you can develop a loyalty and subvert his followers, you don’t have to. A kid doesn’t compete with an adult — yet. But that doesn’t mean it’s not a future threat. Especially with an aging product that’s already stepped in it with its most loyal fans. I agree that right this minute, no, it’s no competition. But someone else in the kingdom accruing talent and trying to establish a brand should raise a smart king’s eyebrows. Think you need to slow down and read the totality of Oak's post and not try to parse it out... The only competition would be in off-season merchandise sales to the NFL that limited disposable income of consumers might spend on the XFL. As so far as a future threat, HISTORY (for those who understand its importance to study, get it right) shows that if anything, should the XFL be viable, we'll see a merger of new markets and adoption of new rules...

03-04-2020, 07:55 AM	#3
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: N/S Your take on the XFL Originally Posted by jeanpierre Think you need to slow down and read the totality of Oak's post and not try to parse it out... The only competition would be in off-season merchandise sales to the NFL that limited disposable income of consumers might spend on the XFL. As so far as a future threat, HISTORY (for those who understand its importance to study, get it right) shows that if anything, should the XFL be viable, we'll see a merger of new markets and adoption of new rules... The future is what I’m getting at, considering the growing age of the NFL’s fanbase, the growing specter of refs fixing games, the growing female support (but also the domestic violence problem), the anthem issues, etc etc, it’s not completely out of the question that the NFL could be vulnerable. All that being said, I don’t know the motivations of the XFL, so I can’t say for certain what the really intend other than a spring league for castoffs to get more exposure and possibly sign with an NFL team in the future.

03-05-2020, 08:20 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,803	Re: N/S Your take on the XFL Cam Jordan will be appearing as a sideline reporter at this Saturday's XFL game between Dallas and New York.

03-04-2020, 08:26 AM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,056	Re: N/S Your take on the XFL Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie Just not true. It’s can be incredibly stupid to fight the alpha head to head, but if you can develop a loyalty and subvert his followers, you don’t have to. A kid doesn’t compete with an adult — yet. But that doesn’t mean it’s not a future threat. Especially with an aging product that’s already stepped in it with its most loyal fans. I agree that right this minute, no, it’s no competition. But someone else in the kingdom accruing talent and trying to establish a brand should raise a smart king’s eyebrows. It is simply true, and if NFL fans watch XFL after the NFL season is over then those fans are not diverted. A child and a parent do compete, they both play in the same financial space. Some times mom gets a purse before dad gets an xbox game or a child gets a new toy. So you are making a distinction without as difference. I am correct now but things could change? If things change then the reason they are not competing changes or goes away. No where in my post did I say "they will never compete". In regards to the NFL market, watching XFL is no different than watching spring MLB which is actually in the same space as XFL When or if the XFL moves its season to Sep-Jan or acquires enough cash to lure NFL players out of the NFL we can certainly revisit. I can see how some lower paid NFL players (kickers possibly) might entertain Playing NFL and XFL which proves they are not in competition or conflict as a person could do both. (baring contract language preventing that from happening)
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