Jameis Winston 1 yr deal

SmashMouth · 04-26-2020, 11:56 AM

If the Saints wait until 4 p.m. Monday or later to officially sign Winston, he won't count against this year's compensatory draft choice formula.

The Saints will have to get creative, as usual, to make room for Winston financially, since they have only about $4 million in salary-cap space and still need to make room for their draft picks and a possible long-term extension with running back Alvin Kamara, among others. But Winston's deal would likely include voidable years that spread out any cap hit. And as a bonus incentive for signing Winston, if he were to leave in free agency next year and wind up starting for another team, the Saints could possibly earn a high-end compensatory draft pick.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ssing-contract

The Dude · 04-26-2020, 12:03 PM

Wow 21 mil. He’s staying.

blackangold · 04-26-2020, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/...38703788892160

Wow 21 mil. He’s staying.

Lol
Wonder what Winston’s contract is going to be. We will have more money tied up to QBs than any other team. I won’t be disappointed in the Winston contract as long as it’s cheap, but if it turns out to be 10+mil, why not spend that money on a big time impact player? There were plenty of DTs or DEs that could have been signed for less than 10mil per year.

Halo · 04-26-2020, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Lol
Wonder what Winston’s contract is going to be. We will have more money tied up to QBs than any other team. I won’t be disappointed in the Winston contract as long as it’s cheap, but if it turns out to be 10+mil, why not spend that money on a big time impact player? There were plenty of DTs or DEs that could have been signed for less than 10mil per year.

I don't know how we could give Jameis 10 million when we just guaranteed Tayson Hill 16 million over a few years. I'm curious if the Jameis signing will actually happen.

If we're going to drop 10 million, bring in a veteran Wide Receiver so we are guaranteed loaded with weapons and have depth with receivers.

NOLA54 · 04-26-2020, 01:22 PM

He does have skills. He just needs a brain.

blackangold · 04-26-2020, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by NOLA54

He does have skills. He just needs a brain.

I want to be clear, as I have been critical of Winston in this thread. I think he has the ability to be a great QB but he lacks the mental liquidity to make the correct throws and anticipate defensive schemes. Now perhaps that eye surgery he had will make him see the field better. Perhaps he turns it around and becomes an amazing QB.

My issue is not with Winston, it is with a large contract being paid to a position that will likely have no impact. Putting teddy in when Drew was hurt was a low risk move, but if we have to put Winston in... why not just roll with Hill who is less risky and supposedly the next Steve Young.

It makes as much sense as overpaying for a LG and having a RG who went to the pro bowl, then you draft a G in the first round for a Super Bowl ready team.

These moves don’t smell like a win now mentality, but perhaps that’s the right approach...

rezburna · 04-26-2020, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by NOLA54

He does have skills. He just needs a brain.

His Wonderlic score was 1 point shy of Peyton Manning and that’s who his football IQ was often compared to. He has a brilliant football mind. The Buccaneers have been a horribly run franchise that hasn’t made the playoffs since my senior year of high school. Jameis Winston went into a bad situation. Now he’s in a good one.

dam1953 · 04-26-2020, 01:58 PM

Here’s an interesting read and perspective...

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2020...contract-news/

AsylumGuido · 04-26-2020, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

I don't know how we could give Jameis 10 million when we just guaranteed Tayson Hill 16 million over a few years. I'm curious if the Jameis signing will actually happen.

If we're going to drop 10 million, bring in a veteran Wide Receiver so we are guaranteed loaded with weapons and have depth with receivers.

We did lock up a receiver. His name is Taysom Hill. If you think he was extended to be a QB I have some beach front property to sell you in Ouachita Parish.

AsylumGuido · 04-26-2020, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I want to be clear, as I have been critical of Winston in this thread. I think he has the ability to be a great QB but he lacks the mental liquidity to make the correct throws and anticipate defensive schemes. Now perhaps that eye surgery he had will make him see the field better. Perhaps he turns it around and becomes an amazing QB.

My issue is not with Winston, it is with a large contract being paid to a position that will likely have no impact. Putting teddy in when Drew was hurt was a low risk move, but if we have to put Winston in... why not just roll with Hill who is less risky and supposedly the next Steve Young.

It makes as much sense as overpaying for a LG and having a RG who went to the pro bowl, then you draft a G in the first round for a Super Bowl ready team.

These moves don’t smell like a win now mentality, but perhaps that’s the right approach...

Because Hill isn't the QB of the future, nor the backup. THAT is clear.

This absolutely reeks of a win now mentality to me. Get a cheap Winston on a one year deal so you can use Hill to his fullest capacity as a WR/everything else.

04-26-2020, 11:56 AM	#51
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal If the Saints wait until 4 p.m. Monday or later to officially sign Winston, he won't count against this year's compensatory draft choice formula. The Saints will have to get creative, as usual, to make room for Winston financially, since they have only about $4 million in salary-cap space and still need to make room for their draft picks and a possible long-term extension with running back Alvin Kamara, among others. But Winston's deal would likely include voidable years that spread out any cap hit. And as a bonus incentive for signing Winston, if he were to leave in free agency next year and wind up starting for another team, the Saints could possibly earn a high-end compensatory draft pick. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ssing-contract

04-26-2020, 12:03 PM	#52
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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by The Dude https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/...38703788892160 Wow 21 mil. He’s staying. Lol Wonder what Winston’s contract is going to be. We will have more money tied up to QBs than any other team. I won’t be disappointed in the Winston contract as long as it’s cheap, but if it turns out to be 10+mil, why not spend that money on a big time impact player? There were plenty of DTs or DEs that could have been signed for less than 10mil per year. jnormand likes this.

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Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,603 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by blackangold Lol Wonder what Winston’s contract is going to be. We will have more money tied up to QBs than any other team. I won’t be disappointed in the Winston contract as long as it’s cheap, but if it turns out to be 10+mil, why not spend that money on a big time impact player? There were plenty of DTs or DEs that could have been signed for less than 10mil per year. I don't know how we could give Jameis 10 million when we just guaranteed Tayson Hill 16 million over a few years. I'm curious if the Jameis signing will actually happen. If we're going to drop 10 million, bring in a veteran Wide Receiver so we are guaranteed loaded with weapons and have depth with receivers. blackangold likes this.

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04-26-2020, 01:36 PM	#56
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by NOLA54 He does have skills. He just needs a brain. I want to be clear, as I have been critical of Winston in this thread. I think he has the ability to be a great QB but he lacks the mental liquidity to make the correct throws and anticipate defensive schemes. Now perhaps that eye surgery he had will make him see the field better. Perhaps he turns it around and becomes an amazing QB. My issue is not with Winston, it is with a large contract being paid to a position that will likely have no impact. Putting teddy in when Drew was hurt was a low risk move, but if we have to put Winston in... why not just roll with Hill who is less risky and supposedly the next Steve Young. It makes as much sense as overpaying for a LG and having a RG who went to the pro bowl, then you draft a G in the first round for a Super Bowl ready team. These moves don’t smell like a win now mentality, but perhaps that’s the right approach...
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04-26-2020, 01:57 PM	#57
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by NOLA54 He does have skills. He just needs a brain. His Wonderlic score was 1 point shy of Peyton Manning and that’s who his football IQ was often compared to. He has a brilliant football mind. The Buccaneers have been a horribly run franchise that hasn’t made the playoffs since my senior year of high school. Jameis Winston went into a bad situation. Now he’s in a good one. RailBoss, darksoul35 and K Major like this.

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dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Here’s an interesting read and perspective... https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2020...contract-news/

04-26-2020, 02:03 PM	#59
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,217	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by Halo I don't know how we could give Jameis 10 million when we just guaranteed Tayson Hill 16 million over a few years. I'm curious if the Jameis signing will actually happen. If we're going to drop 10 million, bring in a veteran Wide Receiver so we are guaranteed loaded with weapons and have depth with receivers. We did lock up a receiver. His name is Taysom Hill. If you think he was extended to be a QB I have some beach front property to sell you in Ouachita Parish. spkb25 likes this.

04-26-2020, 02:06 PM	#60
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,217	Re: Jameis Winston 1 yr deal Originally Posted by blackangold I want to be clear, as I have been critical of Winston in this thread. I think he has the ability to be a great QB but he lacks the mental liquidity to make the correct throws and anticipate defensive schemes. Now perhaps that eye surgery he had will make him see the field better. Perhaps he turns it around and becomes an amazing QB. My issue is not with Winston, it is with a large contract being paid to a position that will likely have no impact. Putting teddy in when Drew was hurt was a low risk move, but if we have to put Winston in... why not just roll with Hill who is less risky and supposedly the next Steve Young. It makes as much sense as overpaying for a LG and having a RG who went to the pro bowl, then you draft a G in the first round for a Super Bowl ready team. These moves don’t smell like a win now mentality, but perhaps that’s the right approach... Because Hill isn't the QB of the future, nor the backup. THAT is clear. This absolutely reeks of a win now mentality to me. Get a cheap Winston on a one year deal so you can use Hill to his fullest capacity as a WR/everything else. spkb25 and frydaddy like this.