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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Ok. I got it. You clearly have no confidence behind what you are claiming. Perhaps you finally realized the Saints take a $20 million cap hit if Thomas is traded or cut. In other words, he ...

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Old 10-30-2020, 10:18 AM   #61
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Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Ok. I got it. You clearly have no confidence behind what you are claiming. Perhaps you finally realized the Saints take a $20 million cap hit if Thomas is traded or cut. In other words, he can't go anywhere else right now.

Sure would have liked your money. Just being right with no reward gets old.

By the way, why do you care one way or another if you claim you aren't watching any games?

Although, it would explain why you are so out of touch with reality.

Dude.... just accept the fact when Thomas leaves... you heard it hear that i said he made his KWAN now he's gone.

Triggered much.
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Old 10-30-2020, 02:43 PM   #62
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Dude.... just accept the fact when Thomas leaves... you heard it hear that i said he made his KWAN now he's gone.

Triggered much.
Keep dreaming ... dude. Have you ever heard of a salary cap? Do you have a clue how it even works?

Cutting or trading Thomas this season would result in a $20 million cap hit because of accelerated guarantees and bonuses. He cannot be traded or released (even if they would ever dream to do either) this year. Next year would still cost the Saints $14 million in dead cap which the Saints will not have, especially if Brees decides to retire. 2022 is the earliest that they can separate from Thomas if they even wanted to. All they could do is sit him and continue paying him and that would be as ridiculous as your goofy assed scenario.

I'm sorry but you have no sense of reality.



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Old 10-31-2020, 08:52 AM   #63
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Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?

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Keep dreaming ... dude. Have you ever heard of a salary cap? Do you have a clue how it even works?

Cutting or trading Thomas this season would result in a $20 million cap hit because of accelerated guarantees and bonuses. He cannot be traded or released (even if they would ever dream to do either) this year. Next year would still cost the Saints $14 million in dead cap which the Saints will not have, especially if Brees decides to retire. 2022 is the earliest that they can separate from Thomas if they even wanted to. All they could do is sit him and continue paying him and that would be as ridiculous as your goofy assed scenario.

I'm sorry but you have no sense of reality.



Edit: By the way, what the hell is a kwan?
I happen to agree with you here, I just don’t see CGM going anywhere. That being said..., when any of us forumites have questioned the machinations of Loomis/Payton wrt managing the cap, some guy named AsylumGuido always sticks his head in and laughs at us, lol. Telling us that we don’t understand how great they are at doing the impossible when it comes to “kicking the can” down the proverbial road.
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Old 10-31-2020, 09:36 AM   #64
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Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?

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I happen to agree with you here, I just don’t see CGM going anywhere. That being said..., when any of us forumites have questioned the machinations of Loomis/Payton wrt managing the cap, some guy named AsylumGuido always sticks his head in and laughs at us, lol. Telling us that we don’t understand how great they are at doing the impossible when it comes to “kicking the can” down the proverbial road.
This is true, but that road travel two ways. You can kick it up road if extending or restructuring a player. But, that can comes barreling straight downhill into your face if you attempt to cut ties with that player too early in the contract.

They talked about this very scenario on Moving the Chains a couple of days ago when a caller suggested the Falcons should trade Julio Jones. They said that it was impossible to trade him until 2022 because of his contract cap hit, which is very similar to Thomas'. The same with Matt Ryan.
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Old 10-31-2020, 09:49 AM   #65
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Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?

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This is true, but that road travel two ways. You can kick it up road if extending or restructuring a player. But, that can comes barreling straight downhill into your face if you attempt to cut ties with that player too early in the contract.

They talked about this very scenario on Moving the Chains a couple of days ago when a caller suggested the Falcons should trade Julio Jones. They said that it was impossible to trade him until 2022 because of his contract cap hit, which is very similar to Thomas'. The same with Matt Ryan.
Agreed, specifically wrt to our player Thomas, that would ultimately be a cost benefit analysis that, imho, I would have a very difficult time understanding the reason or logic behind it, if it were to happen. Regardless, I’m a fan of the player, he’s a superstar. He dominates the playing field..., you just don’t find those types of players every day. And I look forward to him getting healthy and on the field.
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Old 10-31-2020, 10:09 AM   #66
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Agreed, specifically wrt to our player Thomas, that would ultimately be a cost benefit analysis that, imho, I would have a very difficult time understanding the reason or logic behind it, if it were to happen. Regardless, I’m a fan of the player, he’s a superstar. He dominates the playing field..., you just don’t find those types of players every day. And I look forward to him getting healthy and on the field.
Right there with you. In reference to the other thread, Michael Thomas is easily one of my all-time favorites and I hope to see him breaking records and winning championships with the Saints for the next decade.
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Old 10-31-2020, 01:57 PM   #67
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Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?

Thomas will be here as long as it is feasible to keep him. There is his gigantic salary to consider but at some point teams will move on from a highly paid disruptor for the sake of team unity. I want Thomas here because he's so dang good! If he becomes a disruptive diva I could see moving on from him since the rest of our receivers are stepping up and playing well.

Still, I want to keep him as a security blanket for our new QB when Drew hangs up his cleats. It's looking more and more like this may be his final season since his limitations are more noticeable with an aging arm that has lost it's battle with time and injury.
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Thomas will be here as long as it is feasible to keep him. There is his gigantic salary to consider but at some point teams will move on from a highly paid disruptor for the sake of team unity. I want Thomas here because he's so dang good! If he becomes a disruptive diva I could see moving on from him since the rest of our receivers are stepping up and playing well.

Still, I want to keep him as a security blanket for our new QB when Drew hangs up his cleats. It's looking more and more like this may be his final season since his limitations are more noticeable with an aging arm that has lost it's battle with time and injury.
That arm is leading the league in completion percentage. Just saying.
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Old 11-03-2020, 12:04 PM   #69
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Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?

Originally Posted by gosaints1 View Post
I happen to agree with you here, I just don’t see CGM going anywhere. That being said..., when any of us forumites have questioned the machinations of Loomis/Payton wrt managing the cap, some guy named AsylumGuido always sticks his head in and laughs at us, lol. Telling us that we don’t understand how great they are at doing the impossible when it comes to “kicking the can” down the proverbial road.

Another game day no show from Thomas... made his kwan... no he gone.

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Old 11-03-2020, 12:06 PM   #70
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Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Keep dreaming ... dude. Have you ever heard of a salary cap? Do you have a clue how it even works?

Cutting or trading Thomas this season would result in a $20 million cap hit because of accelerated guarantees and bonuses. He cannot be traded or released (even if they would ever dream to do either) this year. Next year would still cost the Saints $14 million in dead cap which the Saints will not have, especially if Brees decides to retire. 2022 is the earliest that they can separate from Thomas if they even wanted to. All they could do is sit him and continue paying him and that would be as ridiculous as your goofy assed scenario.

I'm sorry but you have no sense of reality.



Edit: By the way, what the hell is a kwan?

Another game day no show..Thomas He made is kwan ... now he gone.

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