Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade?

mapcow · 10-30-2020, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Ok. I got it. You clearly have no confidence behind what you are claiming. Perhaps you finally realized the Saints take a $20 million cap hit if Thomas is traded or cut. In other words, he can't go anywhere else right now.

Sure would have liked your money. Just being right with no reward gets old.

By the way, why do you care one way or another if you claim you aren't watching any games?

Although, it would explain why you are so out of touch with reality.

Dude.... just accept the fact when Thomas leaves... you heard it hear that i said he made his KWAN now he's gone.

Triggered much.

AsylumGuido · 10-30-2020, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

Dude.... just accept the fact when Thomas leaves... you heard it hear that i said he made his KWAN now he's gone.

Triggered much.

Keep dreaming ... dude. Have you ever heard of a salary cap? Do you have a clue how it even works?

Cutting or trading Thomas this season would result in a $20 million cap hit because of accelerated guarantees and bonuses. He cannot be traded or released (even if they would ever dream to do either) this year. Next year would still cost the Saints $14 million in dead cap which the Saints will not have, especially if Brees decides to retire. 2022 is the earliest that they can separate from Thomas if they even wanted to. All they could do is sit him and continue paying him and that would be as ridiculous as your goofy assed scenario.

I'm sorry but you have no sense of reality.

Edit: By the way, what the hell is a kwan?

gosaints1 · 10-31-2020, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Keep dreaming ... dude. Have you ever heard of a salary cap? Do you have a clue how it even works?

Cutting or trading Thomas this season would result in a $20 million cap hit because of accelerated guarantees and bonuses. He cannot be traded or released (even if they would ever dream to do either) this year. Next year would still cost the Saints $14 million in dead cap which the Saints will not have, especially if Brees decides to retire. 2022 is the earliest that they can separate from Thomas if they even wanted to. All they could do is sit him and continue paying him and that would be as ridiculous as your goofy assed scenario.

I'm sorry but you have no sense of reality.

Edit: By the way, what the hell is a kwan?

I happen to agree with you here, I just don’t see CGM going anywhere. That being said..., when any of us forumites have questioned the machinations of Loomis/Payton wrt managing the cap, some guy named AsylumGuido always sticks his head in and laughs at us, lol. Telling us that we don’t understand how great they are at doing the impossible when it comes to “kicking the can” down the proverbial road.

AsylumGuido · 10-31-2020, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

I happen to agree with you here, I just don’t see CGM going anywhere. That being said..., when any of us forumites have questioned the machinations of Loomis/Payton wrt managing the cap, some guy named AsylumGuido always sticks his head in and laughs at us, lol. Telling us that we don’t understand how great they are at doing the impossible when it comes to “kicking the can” down the proverbial road.

This is true, but that road travel two ways. You can kick it up road if extending or restructuring a player. But, that can comes barreling straight downhill into your face if you attempt to cut ties with that player too early in the contract.

They talked about this very scenario on Moving the Chains a couple of days ago when a caller suggested the Falcons should trade Julio Jones. They said that it was impossible to trade him until 2022 because of his contract cap hit, which is very similar to Thomas'. The same with Matt Ryan.

gosaints1 · 10-31-2020, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This is true, but that road travel two ways. You can kick it up road if extending or restructuring a player. But, that can comes barreling straight downhill into your face if you attempt to cut ties with that player too early in the contract.

They talked about this very scenario on Moving the Chains a couple of days ago when a caller suggested the Falcons should trade Julio Jones. They said that it was impossible to trade him until 2022 because of his contract cap hit, which is very similar to Thomas'. The same with Matt Ryan.

Agreed, specifically wrt to our player Thomas, that would ultimately be a cost benefit analysis that, imho, I would have a very difficult time understanding the reason or logic behind it, if it were to happen. Regardless, I’m a fan of the player, he’s a superstar. He dominates the playing field..., you just don’t find those types of players every day. And I look forward to him getting healthy and on the field.

AsylumGuido · 10-31-2020, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Agreed, specifically wrt to our player Thomas, that would ultimately be a cost benefit analysis that, imho, I would have a very difficult time understanding the reason or logic behind it, if it were to happen. Regardless, I’m a fan of the player, he’s a superstar. He dominates the playing field..., you just don’t find those types of players every day. And I look forward to him getting healthy and on the field.

Right there with you. In reference to the other thread, Michael Thomas is easily one of my all-time favorites and I hope to see him breaking records and winning championships with the Saints for the next decade.

mapcow · 11-03-2020, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

I happen to agree with you here, I just don’t see CGM going anywhere. That being said..., when any of us forumites have questioned the machinations of Loomis/Payton wrt managing the cap, some guy named AsylumGuido always sticks his head in and laughs at us, lol. Telling us that we don’t understand how great they are at doing the impossible when it comes to “kicking the can” down the proverbial road.

Another game day no show from Thomas... made his kwan... no he gone.

Jerry Maguire Best Scenes - The Origin of Kwan - YouTube

gosaints1 · 11-03-2020, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by mapcow

Another game day no show from Thomas... made his kwan... no he gone.

Jerry Maguire Best Scenes - The Origin of Kwan - YouTube

I don’t discount the possibility of a rift, quite possibly a serious rift, between CGM and the Saints, as a team, or from an organizational standpoint. And, it’s entirely possible it’s his last year here, I just didn’t see him being traded at this very minute, before the trade deadline. I like the guy bc of how dominating he is on the field and the Saints have missed him playing, regardless of record. But if he’s gone next year, I won’t lose any sleep, that’s a guarantee! Player’s move around the league for many reasons. You won’t catch me being a “homer” for any active player or coach. Every player is a cost benefit analysis. Every. Single. Player. And coach also, lol. Regardless, you may prove correct, I don’t know..., I just see the very obvious reasons why trading him immediately is a very, very, tough call.

mapcow · 11-03-2020, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Keep dreaming ... dude. Have you ever heard of a salary cap? Do you have a clue how it even works?

Cutting or trading Thomas this season would result in a $20 million cap hit because of accelerated guarantees and bonuses. He cannot be traded or released (even if they would ever dream to do either) this year. Next year would still cost the Saints $14 million in dead cap which the Saints will not have, especially if Brees decides to retire. 2022 is the earliest that they can separate from Thomas if they even wanted to. All they could do is sit him and continue paying him and that would be as ridiculous as your goofy assed scenario.

I'm sorry but you have no sense of reality.

Edit: By the way, what the hell is a kwan?

Another game day no show..Thomas He made is kwan ... now he gone.

Jerry Maguire Best Scenes - The Origin of Kwan - YouTube

mapcow · 11-03-2020, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Keep dreaming ... dude. Have you ever heard of a salary cap? Do you have a clue how it even works?

Cutting or trading Thomas this season would result in a $20 million cap hit because of accelerated guarantees and bonuses. He cannot be traded or released (even if they would ever dream to do either) this year. Next year would still cost the Saints $14 million in dead cap which the Saints will not have, especially if Brees decides to retire. 2022 is the earliest that they can separate from Thomas if they even wanted to. All they could do is sit him and continue paying him and that would be as ridiculous as your goofy assed scenario.

I'm sorry but you have no sense of reality.

Edit: By the way, what the hell is a kwan?

Here's a little reality for ya.... poor babbette got his fweelings hurt...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...mwW?li=BBnb7Kz

10-30-2020, 09:18 AM	#1
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Ok. I got it. You clearly have no confidence behind what you are claiming. Perhaps you finally realized the Saints take a $20 million cap hit if Thomas is traded or cut. In other words, he can't go anywhere else right now. Sure would have liked your money. Just being right with no reward gets old. By the way, why do you care one way or another if you claim you aren't watching any games? Although, it would explain why you are so out of touch with reality. Dude.... just accept the fact when Thomas leaves... you heard it hear that i said he made his KWAN now he's gone. Triggered much.
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10-30-2020, 01:43 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade? Originally Posted by mapcow Dude.... just accept the fact when Thomas leaves... you heard it hear that i said he made his KWAN now he's gone. Triggered much. Keep dreaming ... dude. Have you ever heard of a salary cap? Do you have a clue how it even works? Cutting or trading Thomas this season would result in a $20 million cap hit because of accelerated guarantees and bonuses. He cannot be traded or released (even if they would ever dream to do either) this year. Next year would still cost the Saints $14 million in dead cap which the Saints will not have, especially if Brees decides to retire. 2022 is the earliest that they can separate from Thomas if they even wanted to. All they could do is sit him and continue paying him and that would be as ridiculous as your goofy assed scenario. I'm sorry but you have no sense of reality. Edit: By the way, what the hell is a kwan?
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

10-31-2020, 07:52 AM	#3
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Keep dreaming ... dude. Have you ever heard of a salary cap? Do you have a clue how it even works? Cutting or trading Thomas this season would result in a $20 million cap hit because of accelerated guarantees and bonuses. He cannot be traded or released (even if they would ever dream to do either) this year. Next year would still cost the Saints $14 million in dead cap which the Saints will not have, especially if Brees decides to retire. 2022 is the earliest that they can separate from Thomas if they even wanted to. All they could do is sit him and continue paying him and that would be as ridiculous as your goofy assed scenario. I'm sorry but you have no sense of reality. Edit: By the way, what the hell is a kwan? I happen to agree with you here, I just don’t see CGM going anywhere. That being said..., when any of us forumites have questioned the machinations of Loomis/Payton wrt managing the cap, some guy named AsylumGuido always sticks his head in and laughs at us, lol. Telling us that we don’t understand how great they are at doing the impossible when it comes to “kicking the can” down the proverbial road.
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10-31-2020, 08:36 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade? Originally Posted by gosaints1 I happen to agree with you here, I just don’t see CGM going anywhere. That being said..., when any of us forumites have questioned the machinations of Loomis/Payton wrt managing the cap, some guy named AsylumGuido always sticks his head in and laughs at us, lol. Telling us that we don’t understand how great they are at doing the impossible when it comes to “kicking the can” down the proverbial road. This is true, but that road travel two ways. You can kick it up road if extending or restructuring a player. But, that can comes barreling straight downhill into your face if you attempt to cut ties with that player too early in the contract. They talked about this very scenario on Moving the Chains a couple of days ago when a caller suggested the Falcons should trade Julio Jones. They said that it was impossible to trade him until 2022 because of his contract cap hit, which is very similar to Thomas'. The same with Matt Ryan. gosaints1 likes this.

10-31-2020, 08:49 AM	#5
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This is true, but that road travel two ways. You can kick it up road if extending or restructuring a player. But, that can comes barreling straight downhill into your face if you attempt to cut ties with that player too early in the contract. They talked about this very scenario on Moving the Chains a couple of days ago when a caller suggested the Falcons should trade Julio Jones. They said that it was impossible to trade him until 2022 because of his contract cap hit, which is very similar to Thomas'. The same with Matt Ryan. Agreed, specifically wrt to our player Thomas, that would ultimately be a cost benefit analysis that, imho, I would have a very difficult time understanding the reason or logic behind it, if it were to happen. Regardless, I’m a fan of the player, he’s a superstar. He dominates the playing field..., you just don’t find those types of players every day. And I look forward to him getting healthy and on the field. AsylumGuido likes this.
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10-31-2020, 09:09 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,720	Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade? Originally Posted by gosaints1 Agreed, specifically wrt to our player Thomas, that would ultimately be a cost benefit analysis that, imho, I would have a very difficult time understanding the reason or logic behind it, if it were to happen. Regardless, I’m a fan of the player, he’s a superstar. He dominates the playing field..., you just don’t find those types of players every day. And I look forward to him getting healthy and on the field. Right there with you. In reference to the other thread, Michael Thomas is easily one of my all-time favorites and I hope to see him breaking records and winning championships with the Saints for the next decade.

11-03-2020, 11:50 AM	#8
gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade? Originally Posted by mapcow Another game day no show from Thomas... made his kwan... no he gone. Jerry Maguire Best Scenes - The Origin of Kwan - YouTube I don’t discount the possibility of a rift, quite possibly a serious rift, between CGM and the Saints, as a team, or from an organizational standpoint. And, it’s entirely possible it’s his last year here, I just didn’t see him being traded at this very minute, before the trade deadline. I like the guy bc of how dominating he is on the field and the Saints have missed him playing, regardless of record. But if he’s gone next year, I won’t lose any sleep, that’s a guarantee! Player’s move around the league for many reasons. You won’t catch me being a “homer” for any active player or coach. Every player is a cost benefit analysis. Every. Single. Player. And coach also, lol. Regardless, you may prove correct, I don’t know..., I just see the very obvious reasons why trading him immediately is a very, very, tough call. jnormand, Rugby Saint II and WW_Who_Dat like this.
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11-03-2020, 11:20 AM	#10
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: Saints willing to consider Michael Thomas trade? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Keep dreaming ... dude. Have you ever heard of a salary cap? Do you have a clue how it even works? Cutting or trading Thomas this season would result in a $20 million cap hit because of accelerated guarantees and bonuses. He cannot be traded or released (even if they would ever dream to do either) this year. Next year would still cost the Saints $14 million in dead cap which the Saints will not have, especially if Brees decides to retire. 2022 is the earliest that they can separate from Thomas if they even wanted to. All they could do is sit him and continue paying him and that would be as ridiculous as your goofy assed scenario. I'm sorry but you have no sense of reality. Edit: By the way, what the hell is a kwan? Here's a little reality for ya.... poor babbette got his fweelings hurt... https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...mwW?li=BBnb7Kz
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