2022 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints

jeanpierre · 04-15-2021, 04:30 PM

Boston Saint · 04-15-2021, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Not all that familiar with his complete body of work but he's a burner.

SPEED.

With Winston’s arm, speedy WRs might be in need.

AsylumGuido · 04-15-2021, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Understand, but when you make the repeat the same mistakes and expect different results, what would you call that behaviour?

And I fully agree, inexact should not be used as an excuse for failure...

Once again, failure is inherent to a degree in the drafting world. You mention "same mistakes". What are those "same mistakes"? In your ultra critical, point-of-view definition, a mistake may not be a mistake to others. You appear to define anything that is not excellence, or not according to your wishes, as being a mistake or failure when it comes to the Payton/Loomis drafts. I know that is an overstatement on my part, but you must know what I mean.

And who has used "inexact" as an excuse for failure? It is not an excuse. It is a descriptive adjective describing the basic nature of the NFL draft.

ChrisXVI · 04-15-2021, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...76320589971456

https://twitter.com/bobbyr2613/statu...92146248425474

A fullback, a blocking TE and whoever the hell this guy is... And people thought kicking the can down the road wouldn’t catch up to us because of LoOmIsNoMiCs!

AsylumGuido · 04-15-2021, 07:08 PM

The Dude · 04-15-2021, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...76320589971456

I kind of feel good about this guy.

dizzle88 · 04-15-2021, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...76320589971456

His tape is pretty impressive.

Big guy, catches with his hands, breaks tackles and has decent speed.

K Major · 04-15-2021, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

His tape is pretty impressive.

Big guy, catches with his hands, breaks tackles and has decent speed.

You must be confusing this guy with someone else. Jalen is small (5'10/165) however he's a burner.

4.27 40 guy.

https://tulanegreenwave.com/sports/f...mccleskey/6469

ChrisXVI · 04-15-2021, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/...92793685438474

Mike Mayock is a garbage GM. Don’t trust these “draft analysts”... They get an actual GM job like Mayock and have no idea what they’re doing.

jeanpierre · 04-16-2021, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Mike Mayock is a garbage GM. Don’t trust these “draft analysts”... They get an actual GM job like Mayock and have no idea what they’re doing.

To be fair, scouts/talent evaluators vs personnel men are two different sides of the same coin...

Mayock knows talent, but he may be out of his depth right now as GM...

Then there's whether or not Coach Gruden is doing his job to maximize putting the talent in the best possible position to win...

My argument has been that Payton spends too much time in evaluating and making personnel decisions and not coaching players up as he did earlier in his tenure...

Payton needs to heed his own locker room propaganda - #DoYourJob...

#ChipKellyEffect

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04-15-2021, 04:34 PM	#562
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major Not all that familiar with his complete body of work but he's a burner. SPEED. With Winston’s arm, speedy WRs might be in need. K Major likes this.

04-15-2021, 04:38 PM	#563
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Understand, but when you make the repeat the same mistakes and expect different results, what would you call that behaviour? And I fully agree, inexact should not be used as an excuse for failure... Once again, failure is inherent to a degree in the drafting world. You mention "same mistakes". What are those "same mistakes"? In your ultra critical, point-of-view definition, a mistake may not be a mistake to others. You appear to define anything that is not excellence, or not according to your wishes, as being a mistake or failure when it comes to the Payton/Loomis drafts. I know that is an overstatement on my part, but you must know what I mean. And who has used "inexact" as an excuse for failure? It is not an excuse. It is a descriptive adjective describing the basic nature of the NFL draft.
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04-15-2021, 07:04 PM	#564
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...76320589971456 I kind of feel good about this guy.
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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...76320589971456 His tape is pretty impressive. Big guy, catches with his hands, breaks tackles and has decent speed.

04-15-2021, 07:58 PM	#568
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by dizzle88 His tape is pretty impressive. Big guy, catches with his hands, breaks tackles and has decent speed. You must be confusing this guy with someone else. Jalen is small (5'10/165) however he's a burner. 4.27 40 guy. https://tulanegreenwave.com/sports/f...mccleskey/6469 jeanpierre likes this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/...92793685438474 Mike Mayock is a garbage GM. Don’t trust these “draft analysts”... They get an actual GM job like Mayock and have no idea what they’re doing.

04-16-2021, 01:21 AM	#570
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Mike Mayock is a garbage GM. Don’t trust these “draft analysts”... They get an actual GM job like Mayock and have no idea what they’re doing. To be fair, scouts/talent evaluators vs personnel men are two different sides of the same coin... Mayock knows talent, but he may be out of his depth right now as GM... Then there's whether or not Coach Gruden is doing his job to maximize putting the talent in the best possible position to win... My argument has been that Payton spends too much time in evaluating and making personnel decisions and not coaching players up as he did earlier in his tenure... Payton needs to heed his own locker room propaganda - #DoYourJob... #ChipKellyEffect K Major likes this.
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