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jeanpierre 12-15-2013 09:42 PM

2014 NFL Draft
 
Thought I'd start this discussion now...

not because in no way shape or form is this season done because of the two clunckers in the past three weeks against NFC West foes that have physically whooped us...

But while game play is still on...we can have a fresher look at the team as opposed till waiting for the offseason...

We've seen with the defense how getting younger players can make a huge difference rather than running out "trusted" veterans for another year...

Schmohams 12-15-2013 09:47 PM

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All of the above.

jeanpierre 12-15-2013 09:47 PM

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This is a first attempt to mock what I'd like to see our draft look like if we finish as projected...

R1 OT Antonio Richardson, Tennessee, 6-6/330
R2 LB Telvin Smith, Florida State, 6-2/224
R3 LB Jeremiah Attaochu, Georgia Tech, 6-3/242
R4 OL Gabe Jackson, Mississippi State, 6-3/340
R5 CB Antone Exum, Virginia Tech, 6-0/220
R6 RB Roderick McDowell, Clemson, 5-9/200
R7 Traded for Parys Haralson to 49ers for 2014 conditional seventh round pick

...I'd like to see us get younger, faster, stronger, cap-friendlier...

jeanpierre 12-15-2013 09:48 PM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Guess I should have put Kicker on the poll, but we all know that would get checked after today!?!

|Mitch| 12-15-2013 09:53 PM

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In no particular order and I have no idea who I'd draft, but: Tackle, ILB, OLB, Center, and perhaps Free Safety...

jeanpierre 12-15-2013 09:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 560367)
In no particular order and I have no idea who I'd draft, but: Tackle, ILB, OLB, Center, and perhaps Free Safety...

Mitch, do you think Vaccaro is capable as Free Safety?!? or would you rather see him at Strong Safety?!?

Michigan_SF 12-15-2013 10:02 PM

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BPA would be my choice.

|Mitch| 12-15-2013 10:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 560371)
Mitch, do you think Vaccaro is capable as Free Safety?!? or would you rather see him at Strong Safety?!?

Hmmm, good question... Harper and Vaccaro could be interesting, but I'd rather another safety who could cover next to Kenny... He could probably play either spot no problem...

Danno 12-15-2013 10:09 PM

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LT then OLB then OC then WR

SaintLeonard 12-15-2013 10:27 PM

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Maybe we should draft another offensive tackle for depth reasons, but I don't think we need to draft one in the early rounds. We literally just drafted a left tackle last year that has a silly amount of upside. (Terron Armstead)
We should move forward with him imo.

What I think would be perfect is if Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix was still available when it is our time to choose our first round pick. I'm not sure how realistic it is to have him still available at the near-end of the first round though.

If Clinton-Dix is still available, I want to see us go: FS, ILB/OLB, OC.
If he isn't, then I think we should go: OLB, ILB, OC.

Schmohams 12-15-2013 10:31 PM

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LT then CB then FS

Showtime5 12-15-2013 10:43 PM

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Let's trade up for Jake Matthews if possible

jeanpierre 12-15-2013 10:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Showtime5 (Post 560400)
Let's trade up for Jake Matthews if possible


If it wouldn't cost us so much, I would love to draft a guy who's bloodlines are as good as they get in the NFL...

Schmohams 12-15-2013 10:48 PM

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The blood lines between Nick Toon and his father aren't very strong, but Matthews looks legit.

Beastmode 12-16-2013 12:49 AM

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Toon was taken off the showroom floor rather quickly. I thought we might see him again but I doubt he is on this team next season to be honest.

hagan714 12-16-2013 06:13 AM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
ok where did i put that dam thing. brb i need to drag something to the post
:deadhorse2:
There now that i have all my props

1) Cap issues are best addressed thru the draft.

Trade out of round one, which given our latest road show is looking to be worth more, for additional picks in round 2 and 3

2) trade players from areas of depth for more picks and/or players you target in FA in 2015. always best to get them in that final year if you can

3) let fan fav walk in FA if you have too

Vacarro has not shown himself to be a TRUE FS. What he looks to be is a modern day SS. like Jenkins. we do not have a ball hawking hard hitting FS on this team

I am waiting for the declare list but right now i am once again wishing for multi picks on day two of the draft

halloween 65 12-16-2013 09:42 AM

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A starting caliber ILB, a starting caliber FS, I think V is going to make the best SS in the league but we need a ball hawk in the backfield. O-line needs road graders that can protect during the pass and muscle up in the run. Only if a great D player is in the 1st, I also would not mind trading our 1st for more 2nd round picks. I also would not mind another DT to go along with J. Jenkins in the later rounds, might get real lucky. We will need help moving forward in the 3-4.

exile 12-16-2013 10:08 AM

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Pick 7 of these:

1. Jake Matthews, Texas A&M (6-5, 305, Tackle)
2. Cameron Erving, Florida State (6-5, 320, Tackle)
3. Taylor Lewan, Michigan (6-7, 315, Tackle)
4. Cyril Richardson, Baylor (6-5, 340, Guard)
5. Cyrus Kouandijio, Alabama, (6-5, 310, Tackle)
6. Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M (6-5, 300, Tackle)
7. Gabe Jackson, Mississippi State (6-3, 340, Guard)
8. Seantrel Henderson, Miami (Fla.) (6-7, 345, Tackle)
9. David Yankey, Stanford (6-5, 314, Guard)
10. Tre Jackson, Florida State (6-4, 330, Guard

2014 NFL Draft Top 10: Offensive Linemen - National NFL Draft | Examiner.com

Euphoria 12-16-2013 10:11 AM

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You left out BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE>

triman 12-16-2013 10:57 AM

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What's up w/T.Armestead??? I have heard nothing good OR bad?

hagan714 12-16-2013 11:05 AM

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Cyril Richardson, OT/G, Baylor
still think he might pull of being a RT in the NFL. if not development replacement for the OG.

Zack Martin, G/OT, Notre Dame
not the size you want but the kid can block

Corey Robinson*, OT, South Carolina
size and athleticism to work with

Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia
my Mr. Under rated for the 2014 draft

Cameron Fleming*, OT, Stanford
sound all the way around. but you might get what you see. upside?

Wesley Johnson, OT, Vanderbilt
plug and play player all up and down the line. always need these types

moving up in round 1 is not an option in my book

hagan714 12-16-2013 11:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by triman (Post 560593)
What's up w/T.Armestead??? I have heard nothing good OR bad?

good question. given the play of the oT and the player we keep active i have to look at him as a bust yet again in 2014. he needs to see the field if he is going to worth anything to us. so till then bust in my book

lsutigerfan 12-16-2013 02:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 560595)
Cyril Richardson, OT/G, Baylor
still think he might pull of being a RT in the NFL. if not development replacement for the OG.

Zack Martin, G/OT, Notre Dame
not the size you want but the kid can block

Corey Robinson*, OT, South Carolina
size and athleticism to work with

Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia
my Mr. Under rated for the 2014 draft

Cameron Fleming*, OT, Stanford
sound all the way around. but you might get what you see. upside?

Wesley Johnson, OT, Vanderbilt
plug and play player all up and down the line. always need these types

moving up in round 1 is not an option in my book

A guy I really like is Greg Robinson OT from Auburn.

Rugby Saint II 12-16-2013 03:00 PM

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Good stuff ya'll. It's time to get acquainted with the new talent.

Rugby Saint II 12-16-2013 03:02 PM

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Time to get acquainted with this years draft.

jeanpierre 12-16-2013 06:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 560595)
Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia
my Mr. Under rated for the 2014 draft

moving up in round 1 is not an option in my book

We'll see what he's about at the Senior Bowl in Mobile...

I know Oregon may have lit the scoreboard up against Virginia, but ask those pass rushers how they felt after that game against him...

He's only had one year at Left Tackle which may put him around Round 3; a little higher depending on Combine and Senior Bowl Performances...

Would love to have a guy name Moses "parting the defense" for our running backs - hey, this schiott writes itself...

Matthews is the only guy I'd move up to get and that will cost to much...

jeanpierre 12-16-2013 06:45 PM

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Want a Safety in the second round?

Deone Bucannon, S, Washington State, 6-1/215

Ball-freakin-Hawk


And don't forget, Jarius Byrd is coming onto the market, will want to win as well as get paid, and we'll probably be parting ways with BOTH Harper and Jenkins...

Schmohams 12-16-2013 07:37 PM

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Should we resign Graham. He will be asking for a lot of money and he is pretty inconsistent. 2 catches for 25 yards isn't a lot but 14 TD's is, I'm very mixed over the subject, I'd love to have him back but at the right price.

jeanpierre 12-16-2013 09:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmohams (Post 560819)
Should we resign Graham. He will be asking for a lot of money and he is pretty inconsistent. 2 catches for 25 yards isn't a lot but 14 TD's is, I'm very mixed over the subject, I'd love to have him back but at the right price.

Franchise him; geaux to arbitration and settle for average of top TE's vs top WR's; let him play a year under the tag and see if he can play more than just four-six weeks at an elite level against all DB's (including Talib)...

K Major 12-16-2013 09:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 560793)
Want a Safety in the second round?


And don't forget, Jarius Byrd is coming onto the market, will want to win as well as get paid, and we'll probably be parting ways with BOTH Harper and Jenkins...

Byrd is one guy I would love to have in the secondary but you are right, he is looking for a huge payday.

I'm all but over Jenkins.

halloween 65 12-16-2013 09:43 PM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 560793)
Want a Safety in the second round?

Deone Bucannon, S, Washington State, 6-1/215

Ball-freakin-Hawk


And don't forget, Jarius Byrd is coming onto the market, will want to win as well as get paid, and we'll probably be parting ways with BOTH Harper and Jenkins...

That's the man, Bucannon. Byrd would be nice but would command to much money I would think but hey he is proven.

jeanpierre 12-16-2013 10:57 PM

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Offensive Line, Linebacker, Safety...

jeanpierre 12-17-2013 01:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 560874)
That's the man, Bucannon. Byrd would be nice but would command to much money I would think but hey he is proven.


Like I said "ball-freakin-hawk"!



Danno 12-17-2013 01:42 PM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
I'd like a stud FS too, but speed at LB and LT are bigger priorities to me, even OC

jeanpierre 12-17-2013 02:00 PM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Well, Armstead needs to see the field, too

But there's two LB's I mocked that would demonstrate what you're talkin' about...

TheOak 12-17-2013 02:35 PM

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Dont look for Harper to go anywhere unless we find someone that wants to trade for him.

Danno 12-17-2013 03:24 PM

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Your poll doesn't stipulate RT or LT, as well as FS or SS.

Those are 4 very different positions.

halloween 65 12-17-2013 05:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 561074)

Like I said "ball-freakin-hawk"!


Deone Bucannon Highlights - YouTube

He sure tackles well, hard hitter and plays the ball well, just what we need at FS. He and V could rule the backfield. Call Payton and tell him to pull the trigger, I'm in!!

hagan714 12-17-2013 05:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lsutigerfan (Post 560677)
A guy I really like is Greg Robinson OT from Auburn.

i am going by the freaking rating from sites and i do not see him falling to us. if he did score!

hagan714 12-17-2013 05:40 PM

Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 560793)
Want a Safety in the second round?

Deone Bucannon, S, Washington State, 6-1/215

Ball-freakin-Hawk



Bucannon is a solid prospect but by no means a finished product. can he reach the limits most have for him is the question. scarey huh and does make you drool a bit
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 560793)
And don't forget, Jarius Byrd is coming onto the market, will want to win as well as get paid, and we'll probably be parting ways with BOTH Harper and Jenkins...


money baby money. it all about the cap. Byrd will be looking for his pay day if not go for it


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