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the saints always get a player or two that they take two years or so to develope. My vote goes to

Stanley Jean-Baptiste CB/WR/S Nebraska

others over looked or being dissed

Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma
Here is a player that has taking a beating and i think maybe a steal at the bottom of round 2. the talent and skills are there.


Ty Zimmerman, FS Kansas State is a prospect worth looking at on day 3. smart tackling machine.

Brian Blechen, SS/OLB Utah
another solid day 2/3 prospect. size of a OLB and speed of a SS

Trevor Reilly OLB/SS Utah
what a nice problem to have in Utah. here is a sky maybe limit prospect

Jr i am waiting on are
Trey DePriest ILB Bama
Ed Reynolds, S (Stanford)
Cody Hoffman, WR, BYU
Ty Montgomery WR/KR Stanford

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I still think we should move forward with Terron Armstead as LT. He has all-world potential. All he needed was some time to bulk up and gain weight. He's been in our system for a year now, that should be enough time. He should start next year.

If Ha'sean Clinton-Dix is available at our pick, we should absolutely pull the trigger on him imo. Him and Vaccaro would be a SICK duo. If he's gone though, I want an OLB. Kyle Van Noy out of BYU, specifically. He excels in pass coverage which is something none of our current OLBs can say. Heck, honestly, I think it would be a great idea if we take Van Noy transition him to ILB, replacing Lofton.

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It is amazing what the Saints record is after seeing all these holes in the team. Imagine what Drew could do with a team with talent like Seattle, maybe if Drew could spare a few dollars we could have talent like that.

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We should get Kromer to come back and ask him to pick OL in every round.

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Leo, actually he was just drafted this April, sp he's only had the OTC/Training Camp and this partial season to learn, but I agree that you draft 'em and play 'em to see if they're the goods; let the youth and energy offset the rookie mistakes and inexperience will fade with more playing time...

They're are as big an impact free safeties that will be available in rounds two and three, I really would like to grab a ready to geaux offensive tackle or freak linebacker with that first round pick...Van Noy will probably not fit into future plans for this defense and he'll be gone by the time we pick at 32...

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Haha, good point on Armstead. Although I was more or less talking about a "football year" than an actual 12 months. He's had OTAs and this whole season, and will also have OTAs next year.

Are there any other safeties besides Clinton-Dix that are starter potential? I haven't really done my research on that position, I just know Clinton-Dix because he's supposed to be a first rounder. Who are some other free safeties I should keep my eye on?

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1. Armstead had been on injury list for awhile. Not sure how ready he is at this point. Plus Brown beat him out. Ugh.

2. Clinton-Dix will never slide to our spot unless we do the impossible and miss the playoffs.

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A guy I really like is Ed Reynolds from Stanford

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Clinton-Dix is currently slotted at 35 on NFLDraftScout. Its possible.

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He is at 30 but the first FS overall. He won't last past the early 20s unless he blows his combine workouts. NFLDraftScout also mocks him at 17 and 24 so far.

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We need a two damn tackles and maybe a center other than that were straight.

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dope

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Time to back me up, Armstead. :bng:

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now we sit back and see what we got and were we are with him

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Don't forget that Armstead has been off then back on the injury list a few times this year. So maybe without that he would already be the LT by now.

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No, he's been on the Inactive list, the injuries were minor...

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Thats fine in theory but if a lineman is not ready for the NFL his rookie season putting him in puts someone elses health at risk.

If a team is at a point in the season where the their play-off hopes are gone, then maybe play them but sure as the sun is hot if we put a rookie in before he is ready he either flops and costs us a game or gets our QB hurt then the angry mob whats to know why he was put in when he isn't ready.

Pewee through College yes.. the NFL is not that safe a bet.

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Anybody, or anyone of the names mention, on defense...as long as they can tackle! Ball hawk is Ok, but PLEASE let them have basic fundamental skills in TACKLING.

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How do you figure that? You didn't put RT in your poll.

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We also have L/R ILB so how Lofton is identified is not clear to me. I also do not have a whole lot of faith that voters know the difference between ILB and OLD in regards to our depth chart.

We have 5 R/L ILBs.

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And not to nit-pick the poll, but every LB in a 3-4 is different.
The Jack backer has a different skillset than the SOLB, and the WILB has a different skillset than the SILB.

Same with SS and FS.

Same with LT and RT.

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we need size, speed and cover skills in the LB corp as a whole

OT the entire depth chart needs to be addressed seeing almost all are FA this year

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Morgan Moses, ROT/OG Virginia
6056 325 5.28

i think he will blow people way not only in the weight room but on the field. looking at the 40 he should be in the top 5 in the splits to ten yards and at the 40 top ten. field drills - his foot work will be solid but that "can he keep improving at the next level and stay at LT" will dog him. He maybe the one or two at the RT position in my book and solid upside to stay at LT with some work.

Big, long armed, strong, fast quick and nimble. solid blocking skills all around. ran tons of screen in Va, dude pulls and hits like a OG. the kid mirrors people into the dirt. dancing with the stars in his future? lmao who knows he slide step as good as any one in college. shame he played on a team rebuilding and with a coaching staff that well is not the greatest game group i have seen.

I think you will have to pick him in the second in my book. he has to tank senior bowl, his pro day and the combine to be around for us later in the draft. i do not see that happening.

He has handled all comers. Oregon Stanford BYU Pitt Georgia Tech Clemson North Carolina. Teams approach to attacking him by the second quarter was to move their best DE to the other side and avoid him all together.

yep i am really high on this kid. I watched almost every game. there is a weight issue from his Jr year. He played at 255 and was a beast in the run game. dropped to 325 this year. this is a concern but i believe that was due to the coaches and not pigging out on chix wings. interviews will tell.

Armstrong works out at LT and he does at RT we could have some of the most athletic OT in the NFL.

bring on the beauty shows already gesshhhh

right now i would take the gamble in the second

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C Weston Richburg, Colorado State, 6-4/300 (R2,3)
one of the best OC in college football for the past 3 years.

late rounders i want to add are

Vyncent Jones OC/OG Utah
6031 305 5.23
Versatile interior lineman. LOG ROG OC
17 pancakes in 2012
18 knockdowns and 12 pancake blocks in 2013

Wesley Johnson RT Vanderbilt
6044 290 5.12
incredible versatility played each of T, G, C as a sophomore

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Now if we can get a second day pick with a trade and need a player to say replace an unnamed player then I would look at

Charles Sims RB West Virgina
5116 213 4.54/4.44

big, strong enough to make plays between the tackles, yet quick enough and fast enough to take it to the edge. then add the fact he maybe the best RB as a receiver. good chance of being a Day 1 starter. he fits the mould of RB that works in SP system. yep a perfect player for PT to work with.

we will wait for the beauty shows

myself i like watching the games. the WV OL suxed so bad it was an eye opener as to how good this kid is. he has that uncanny level of escapability that is unbelievable. i am not talking about dancing east and west and around the dome like bush did. he heads north and south and can make 5 moves in 3 yards that leave defenders reaching for air. Then he has great hands.

He reminds me a bit of Marshal Faulk i wounder if he trained the same way in the off season? does any one out there remember it? granted the story was early on in his career

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watching this kid you pointed out pierre

C Zac Kerin, Toledo, 6-5/300 5.20/5.06 (R4,5)

he looks solid

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thats one reason i pointed him out. he maybe there in round 1 and you get a phone call. what do you do hmmmmmm. trade the pick or trade a player? maybe both?

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He may be gone in Round 3; but if he's there in late Round 4, you defintely have to look at the upgrade...

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I would have to say Ingram or Sproles. Sproles might get us a 2nd and Ingram a 3rd or 4th.On the D Harper has good trade value, I really like Harper let me clear that up and he could be used in a 3-4. Jenkins contract is up and if it is renewed I hope it would be a sign and trade type of deal or just let him walk, please, but I don't think we would get much or anything for Jenkins to be honest!! Lofton, he would have good value to a 4-3 team. Brees has value but he isn't going anywhere but after todays game and watching the Hail Mary pass at the end I get the feeling his arm strength is in serious decline and in all honesty alot of his deep ball passes have been short this season!! So let the bashers start bashing!!