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K Major 01-03-2014 10:53 AM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 567097)
i just do not get it

R1 - Odell Beckham Jr., WR, LSU
Probably a second day pick as most mock reports indicate however he has 1st round talent (assuming he comes out early). Did you see his circus catch against Iowa? This guy is a playmaker with great hands.

halloween 65 01-03-2014 11:47 AM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by exile (Post 567427)
I'm withdrawing my support for Haha Clinton-Dix in the first round. The guy was a ghost last night. :cry:
To much hype for Dix, but I did like some of OU's DE's and OU's O-linemen, they were stout on both ends.

hagan714 01-03-2014 12:45 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 567146)
He's really a 34 OLB Rush LB like another Georgia Tech guy we drafted for the same defense named Pat Swilling...

In the 34, many opposing coaches remarked that he was "unblockable"; the GT staff changed with a new 43 alignment and so he was inconsistent with the adjustments to the new scheme...

ok that a solid point.

you just sold me on my kid

Morgan Moses, ROT/OG Virginia

Moses held this year and last year also.

hagan714 01-03-2014 12:49 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Ha ha was made a fool of last night, speed killed bama.

Aaron Colvin CB Oaklahoma
5115 192 4.48/4.38

had a solid game last night. bama stayed away from him the entire game. says a lot! he has dropped in the draft. medical on his shoulder and Toe are needed. freaking toes gesshhhh

SaintLeonard 01-03-2014 01:03 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Jalen Saunders looked really good last night too.

saintfan 01-03-2014 02:30 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
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Schmohams 01-03-2014 07:17 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
I really want someone like Cordarrelle Patterson, such a slick runner and he returned 4 to the house this year. Special Teams is a huge part of the game and a big momentum shift, we could have won 2-3 more games this year if we had gotten a kickoff returned for a TD in those games.

Cruize 01-03-2014 11:53 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Sammy Watkins WR Clemson.

hagan714 01-04-2014 07:07 AM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 567707)
Sammy Watkins WR Clemson.
guess we are trading up. would be sweet

hagan714 01-04-2014 07:10 AM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaintLeonard (Post 567476)
Jalen Saunders looked really good last night too.

Little Big man. did look good

hagan714 01-04-2014 07:13 AM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schmohams (Post 567632)
I really want someone like Cordarrelle Patterson, such a slick runner and he returned 4 to the house this year. Special Teams is a huge part of the game and a big momentum shift, we could have won 2-3 more games this year if we had gotten a kickoff returned for a TD in those games.
thats why i can not shake the feeling SP will take Odell if he is on the board in round 1

alleycat_126 01-04-2014 07:42 AM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 567738)
thats why i can not shake the feeling SP will take Odell if he is on the board in round 1
He's gotta take the needs off the board first before he goes to the wants, I think that is what made last years draft and free agent class such a beneficial one...

And if a resigned joe Morgan comes back to the team healthy I would by all means give him a shot at returning kickoffs. I remember him taking one back in a preseason game and I thought he would be great there, but the idea never saw daylight.

alleycat_126 01-04-2014 07:46 AM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruize (Post 567707)
Sammy Watkins WR Clemson.
Will be gone when we pick, one can dream though....he is the star wr of this class.

alleycat_126 01-04-2014 07:57 AM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno (Post 566694)
Yep, just did some research and he's spouting the money line like Nicks did.

And I read he's a much better fit in a 4-3 than a 3-4. And yes I know we ran more 4 man fronts this year than 3 man fronts but I think when we get some more 3-4 LB's in here we'll see more true 3 man fronts.
Oh boy, galette, cam, hicks and a bunch of crazy ball hungry lbs coming for the qb... Chills....

jeanpierre 01-04-2014 08:51 AM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Don't trust the "big names" that disappear in big games...

And, I've noticed a trend with SEC players in the last twenty years..

And Alabama Alum in the NFL have not done, well, until the last couple years though Julio Jones and Eddy Lacy (we'll see how he builds on this year) may have "begun to turn the tide"; and there's the promise of the recent bumper crop of offensive linemen; but that's very recent, so I've got the fine spectacles on when looking at Tide players...

I don't trust Wide Receivers from Tennessee, but man, do they produce some really good players, especially linemen...

They get little fanfare, but Mississippi State, especially Defensive Linemen and now Cornerbacks have been a solid producer...

LSU was embarrassed by JaMarcus Russell, though that's mostly on him; but, many of their defensive prospects have transitioned well; plus, they're starting to produce receivers; nothing All-Pro, but very solid players...

Of the SEC teams in the last twenty-five years, I'd rank top 5 as Tennesse, LSU, Mississippi State, Auburn and Alabama with best quality NFL players produced, transitioned...

lee909 01-04-2014 10:48 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
At least one CB

Danno 01-04-2014 11:14 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
CB, LB, and OC just moved ahead of LT

|Mitch| 01-04-2014 11:14 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Guess we can take a LT off the list, at least an early round one :bng:

The Dude 01-04-2014 11:18 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Who voted guard? Both our guards were named all pro if I am not mistaken.

LivnaLieTimay 01-04-2014 11:22 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
After this game I'd have to put CB as our top priority. I don't know if we'll ever see Greer in uniform again and after watching our defense without Lewis I'm sold on upgrading at corner. After that, go for BPA but I'd like to get some help at WR, OL, LB and Safety.

jeanpierre 01-06-2014 08:49 AM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Straight to the NFL?!?

May have found our "Bruiser"...

400-Pound High School Running Back Is Virtually Un-tackle-able | STACK

jeanpierre 01-06-2014 09:00 AM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
If Sproles speed doesn't recover from that last knee injury...

2014 NFL Draft: Oregon Ducks' De'Anthony Thomas headed to NFL - CBSSports.com

hagan714 01-07-2014 12:47 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 568841)
Who voted guard? Both our guards were named all pro if I am not mistaken.

me :)

never to early to get a OG/OT in shape to step in. our starter aint getting any younger.

i really like some off the hybrid OG/OT this year. fill need at back up for both position right away. beef for jumbo set also. never know there are two to four OG in that draft that might be able to hold down the RT position as a starter.

I like flexibilty

hagan714 01-07-2014 12:51 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 569644)
Straight to the NFL?!?

May have found our "Bruiser"...

400-Pound High School Running Back Is Virtually Un-tackle-able | STACK

dam

TheOak 01-07-2014 01:03 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 570146)
dam
His knees will not hold up through college.

jeanpierre 01-07-2014 08:33 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno (Post 568836)
CB, LB, and OC just moved ahead of LT
We do have an expiring contract at Right Tackle in Strief; not so sure Armstead wouldn't be better suited as a Power Run Blocking Right Tackle, especially with his speed/athleticism...

Danno 01-07-2014 08:38 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 570380)
We do have an expiring contract at Right Tackle in Strief; not so sure Armstead wouldn't be better suited as a Power Run Blocking Right Tackle, especially with his speed/athleticism...
With those athletic feet you don't waste him at RT. He was born to play LT.

jeanpierre 01-07-2014 09:26 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
My Wish List for the Saints [Updated 7 JAN 2014]...

R1 CB Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State, 6-0/200 (CB Depth, Youth, Comp)

R2 FS Deonne Bucannon, Washington State, 6-1/215 (Malcolm Jenkins)

R3 LB Jeremiah Attaochu, Georgia Tech, 6-3/242 (Parys Haralson)

R4 TE Marcel Jensen, Fresno State, 6-5/270 (TE Depth, Youth, Comp)

R5 OT Seantrel Henderson, Univ of Miami, FL, 6-7/345 (RT Zach Strief)

R6 LB Max Bullough, Michigan State, 6-3/245 (LB Depth, Youth, Comp)

R7 RB James White, Wisconsin, 5-10/195 (TRADED for Parys Haralson to 49ers for 2014 conditional seventh round pick)

jeanpierre 01-07-2014 09:36 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danno (Post 570383)
With those athletic feet you don't waste him at RT. He was born to play LT.

True, but most of the better running games have an athletic right tackle..

Now, just put up an updated list with consideration of leaving Armstead at the LT...

However, Bushrod, more a plodder, was effective at redirecting speed rushers further out (increasing their rush arc/distance traveled), but had the size to negate, at least minimize, bull rushers - he worked well for that scheme...

Having Armstead's athleticism on the right edge would give a ++ advantage in matchups on that side of the line...

Wish we had more people not afraid to mocks; they shouldn't be afraid of ridicule, though playful poking is always healthy among friends...

There probably are prospects that should be discussed that just haven't been mentioned here yet...

There's some real good discussion and thought provoking insight even when we don't all have the same picture of the Saints team and status quo...

Utah_Saint 01-08-2014 01:18 AM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 568841)
Who voted guard? Both our guards were named all pro if I am not mistaken.
I voted guard. When Evans was hurt, Lelito was getting pushed around like he was on roller skates. That was when the offensive line was at it's worst this year. I'm afraid of what would happen if Evans or Grubbs had a season ending injury.

hennr 01-08-2014 08:30 AM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
First game Lelito started early in the game he was hurt but he gutted it out his other starts he has played well considering he was from grand vallety state.just because he was not drafted i think we all know the saints 2013 ufda class was as good as a lot of nfl teams draft picks in 2013.lets look back at the 2013 ufda class qb griffin may not be a starter but will be a good 2nd string at worst,rb robinson is a gem same for te hill an de foster is a keeper.an one day mlb reddick will start an cb sweeting is a ok back up.So let take the highest rated player on the draft board an i think with the saints growing abilty to find ufda gems that the 2014 ufda class will cover for any need positions not drafted in 2014 in order to take the higest rated player with each pick.:bng:

lsutigerfan 01-08-2014 09:38 AM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
:D
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 570401)
My Wish List for the Saints [Updated 7 JAN 2014]...

R1 CB Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State, 6-0/200 (CB Depth, Youth, Comp)

R2 FS Deonne Bucannon, Washington State, 6-1/215 (Malcolm Jenkins)

R3 LB Jeremiah Attaochu, Georgia Tech, 6-3/242 (Parys Haralson)

R4 TE Marcel Jensen, Fresno State, 6-5/270 (TE Depth, Youth, Comp)

R5 OT Seantrel Henderson, Univ of Miami, FL, 6-7/345 (RT Zach Strief)

R6 LB Max Bullough, Michigan State, 6-3/245 (LB Depth, Youth, Comp)

R7 RB James White, Wisconsin, 5-10/195 (TRADED for Parys Haralson to 49ers for 2014 conditional seventh round pick)
I love the Justin Gilbert pick. Give me Gilbert, Beasley or Van Noy and I'd be very happy.

SaintLeonard 01-08-2014 10:46 AM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
I'm in Jason Verrett's boat. If we take a CB in the first, I hope it's him.

Guy is lockdown in the pass-happy Big 12, which is impressive. He has fluid hips and the speed to turn and run with practically any WR. He's not a ballhawk, only recording 2 INTs his senior year, but I don't really care if he's a ballhawk or not as long as he doesn't allow his opponent to make catches - and he doesn't.

The knock on him is he doesn't have great size (only 5'10) but there have been plenty of CBs around that height to have success at this level.

jeanpierre 01-08-2014 04:20 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 570457)
I voted guard. When Evans was hurt, Lelito was getting pushed around like he was on roller skates. That was when the offensive line was at it's worst this year. I'm afraid of what would happen if Evans or Grubbs had a season ending injury.
Not opposed to your vote; but Grubbs, not Lelito, has been getting thrown like a toy (starting with the Miami game)...

Utah_Saint 01-08-2014 04:54 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 570642)
Not opposed to your vote; but Grubbs, not Lelito, has been getting thrown like a toy (starting with the Miami game)...
Haven't seen Grubbs being beat but honestly, I rarely watch the o-line unless it's breaking down. I did notice Lelito getting creamed. Either way, all the more reason for more depth at guard. That little area behind the guards and center is Drew's little safe zone.

jeanpierre 01-08-2014 05:09 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 570653)
Haven't seen Grubbs being beat but honestly, I rarely watch the o-line unless it's breaking down. I did notice Lelito getting creamed. Either way, all the more reason for more depth at guard. That little area behind the guards and center is Drew's little safe zone.

If you can watch the home game against Miami, right before we pulled away with Sproles running the wheel routes out the backfield just pass the flats; Grubbs was getting thrown like a kid...

Saw it happen again at the Jets...

They all looked horrible vs S'hawks...

Armstead caught all the bad press from the at Carolina game, but their guys were flat whipping our guys, including Grubbs, there...

He hasn't played at the level that his salary cap number would suggest...

jcp026 01-08-2014 05:32 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
1st Round- S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix
2nd Round- ILB Shayne Skov
3rd Round- CB EJ Gaines
4th Round- NT Daniel McCullers
5th Round- OT Seantrel Henderson
6th Round- Rush LB IK Enemkpali

hagan714 01-09-2014 02:50 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
1st Round- not set on any one yet but right now pipe dram is
Cyril Richardson, G/OT, Baylor

2nd Round- Morgan Moses, ROT/OG Virginia 6056 325 5.28
3rd Round- Keith McGill CB/S Utah 6021 205 4.38/4.49
4th Round- Stanley Jean-Baptiste CB/WR/S Nebraska 6022 220 4.46/4.56
5th Round- Shamar Stephen DT/DE Conneticut 6045 313 5.14
6th Round- Zach Kerr, DT, Delaware 6012 322 5.12

still waiting on
Ty Montgomery WR Stanford 6015 215 4.52/4.42

hagan714 01-09-2014 02:53 PM
Re: 2014 NFL Draft
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 570401)


R1 CB Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State, 6-0/200 (CB Depth, Youth, Comp)
)
he has the hands but the times i have watch him play his run defense is lacking aggressive play. he seem reluctant

jcp026 01-09-2014 06:39 PM
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[QUOTE=hagan714;570965]
4th Round- Stanley Jean-Baptiste CB/WR/S Nebraska 6022 220 4.46/4.56

Love it.


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