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Old 02-04-2016, 03:04 PM   #111
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Official Announcement: New Orleans Saints announce coaching staff changes and additions

New Orleans Saints Head Coach Sean Payton has announced five additions to the team’s 2016 coaching staff today...

...(excerpt on Ronald Curry) Ronald Curry brings 10 years of NFL experience, seven as a player and three as a coach, to New Orleans in 2016 after spending the past three seasons (2013-15) on the staff of the San Francisco 49ers, initially as an offensive assistant and most recently as the teams’ wide receivers coach. He originally entered the NFL as a seventh-round selection (253rd overall) of the Oakland Raiders in the 2002 NFL Draft after completing a collegiate career as a dual threat athlete, quarterback and wide receiver, at the University of North Carolina. A standout basketball player as well, Curry spent two seasons as the starting point guard for the Tar Heels basketball team. In seven seasons in Oakland, he played in 76 games with 32 starts and posted career totals of 193 receptions for 2,347 yards with 13 touchdowns.

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Old 02-04-2016, 03:21 PM   #112
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See's Assistant/LB coach and ST coaches

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Old 02-04-2016, 07:13 PM   #113
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lol...right, don't get on ray-ray's bad side, you'll get the drive-by with the limo treatment...

But I remember Lewis *****ing as well, but the Ravens went to that front because Ray couldn't cover the middle as he could before he got older...
No, he complained about it in the early 2000's. He was still in his prime.
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Old 02-04-2016, 07:15 PM   #114
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It's not so much getting bogged down in an argument for the 3-4 or 4-3 front being superior...

It's the frustration of having drafted, acquired more 3-4 personnel than 4-3 and running a 4-3 because that's the only system Dennis Allen seems limited to running...
How do you know Allen is "limited" to only running a 4-3?

Every DC in todays NFL knows how to run both.

He's not "limited".
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Old 02-06-2016, 01:55 PM   #115
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How do you know Allen is "limited" to only running a 4-3?

Every DC in todays NFL knows how to run both.

He's not "limited".
He limits himself...

After Allen took over the reigns, he barely played Kikaha...

In the Detroit game, Kikaha had a forced fumble, but only played 10 plays...
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He limits himself...

After Allen took over the reigns, he barely played Kikaha...

In the Detroit game, Kikaha had a forced fumble, but only played 10 plays...
He limits himself?

Where do you come up with this stuff?
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Kikaha play changed when Allen took over. He had more run stopping responsibility than he did under Rob.

Besides he had the ankle issues also and i wonder how much that played into it. he dropped to 10 against lions then went to 22 Jags followed by 32 against Atlanta.

He does set a solid edge something Cam does not excel at. Rob Peter to pay Paul kinda thing. look forward to the day they can feed off of one another again. Vaccaro and Browner were not the best combination as back ups. Browner was a huge head ache for Kenny I am sure, despite the tackle totals. That goose egg for INT and only 5 PDs jump out at me. Little to old school SS play IMO. But how much blame can you place on him with Browner play? back on topic

Kikaha production fell but Dennis is old school. stop the run first. get him some help at the second level or try a new combination back there, then i think Dennis will turn him loss again. whatever the reason it worked enough to get some Ws over those final 4 game.

Kikaha is definitely better at attacking and making plays behind the line

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Old 02-06-2016, 06:08 PM   #118
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Kikaha play changed when Allen took over. He had more run stopping responsibility than he did under Rob.

Dennis is old school. stop the run first.
You have no idea what responsibilities he had under either coach.

Stopping the run 1st isn't old school. Its what all 32 teams do.
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You have no idea what responsibilities he had under either coach.

Stopping the run 1st isn't old school. Its what all 32 teams do.
LMAO and you would say that ROB defense scheme was stop the run first? Dennis did a much better job making him a read and react player to help this team win than rob did turning him loose given the Browner limitation at the second level. Rob love the high light reels

Watch the game and you see a difference in his play style. with browner always chasing his assignment, Dennis did the smart thing. Limit the attack and go mostly read and react on that side of the field.

This is the part of game ROB SUXED at. The only thing he could adjust was his belt to cover up his fat .... that was made clear with his statements he made after he got kicked to the curb.

Dennis did what he had to, to win.

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He limits himself?

Where do you come up with this stuff?
IF Kikaha was healthy...

...and his best asset is as a pass rusher...

...and, for example, Detroit was torching the Saints...

...Why would you only play Kikaha for ten (10) snaps in the game?!?

And despite limted play, Kikaha forced a fumble in those limited snaps...

Why on God's Green Earth, would you not find a way to get a play maker like that on the field?!?

Rob Ryan was awful at deploying and executing game time...

Allen in his run, left Kikaha on the sidelines when he should have been trying to find ways to put him on the field, making plays, developing...

...It wasn't like Allen had to do much to look better than Ryan...

...My legitimate concern is that Allen is a rigid, in-the-box thinker and lacks the imagination to assess his assets/personnel and deploy a scheme that puts as many of his people on the field at one time as Coach Payton does on offense...

In their limited play down the stretch with Allen at the helm, Kikaha and Edebali were as or more productive per play than any Saints defender...

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