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Danno 02-23-2013 11:21 AM

Re: Nnamdi ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 481417)
Why? His strengths? Man to man? He played in Oakland people.

So what. Nearly every expert, coach, and player claimed he was the best lock-down CB in the entire NFL.

He was thrown at less than any other CB in the league.

The guy was a phenominal CB and probably still is. Placing the best man CB in Philly's scheme is like putting Jonathan Vilma at DE.

Everyone questioned the move when Philly made it and it turns out everyone was correct. A terrible fit.

Even at his current age (he'll be 32 soon) he'd be better than anyone we have or have ever had at CB.

Seer1 02-23-2013 11:46 AM

Re: Nnamdi ?
 
And since he has enough money now to buy a small country, maybe he'd like to come somewhere for the one thing his money can't buy.

Ashley 02-23-2013 11:51 AM

Re: Nnamdi ?
 
one if we get him cheap, which i can't see it. He is only good for maybe one to two years. Saying that we only have a few more good years with Drew, so why not put the best people we can get for now and get another ring. Now if we can put some studs up front, Jason David would even be a all pro in the back end.
So I would rather put it up front, pass

K Major 02-23-2013 01:58 PM

Re: Nnamdi ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashley (Post 481543)
one if we get him cheap, which i can't see it. He is only good for maybe one to two years. Saying that we only have a few more good years with Drew, so why not put the best people we can get for now and get another ring. Now if we can put some studs up front, Jason David would even be a all pro in the back end.
So I would rather put it up front, pass

+1

Supertek 02-26-2013 02:51 PM

Re: Nnamdi ?
 
I agree he is probably better than anything we have on our roster and I would be for it so tired of the play with what we have crap. Time for the hammer to come down and make changes.

WillSaints81 02-26-2013 09:37 PM

Re: Nnamdi ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Supertek (Post 482199)
I agree he is probably better than anything we have on our roster and I would be for it so tired of the play with what we have crap. Time for the hammer to come down and make changes.

I agree. How old is Ray Lewis? We don't have that long left and this would be the best defensive signing we had in a long time. We need this guy.

alleycat_126 02-26-2013 09:48 PM

Re: Nnamdi ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 481534)
So what. Nearly every expert, coach, and player claimed he was the best lock-down CB in the entire NFL.

He was thrown at less than any other CB in the league.

The guy was a phenominal CB and probably still is. Placing the best man CB in Philly's scheme is like putting Jonathan Vilma at DE.

Everyone questioned the move when Philly made it and it turns out everyone was correct. A terrible fit.

Even at his current age (he'll be 32 soon) he'd be better than anyone we have or have ever had at CB.

Preach!!! We haven't past or present ever had a corner as good as Nnamdi!!!!

Luda34 02-26-2013 10:01 PM

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I think the last two years tarnished his talets I bet someone get him for a cheap price. Oh to answer the question hell yes he's still better than anyone on our squad.

ClintSaints 03-12-2013 03:04 PM

Nnamdi is now available.
 
You know, now that we are supposedly under the cap - simply cutting EITHER Jonathan vilma OR Will Smith would give us enough money to pursue Nnamdi.

Would YOU cut Vilma or Smith outright to get Nnamdi?

I would. In a heartbeat.

WillSaints81 03-12-2013 03:05 PM

Re: Nnamdi is now available.
 
Man I hope so.

Halo 03-12-2013 03:06 PM

Re: Nnamdi is now available.
 
And Nnamdi played under Ryan before.

Unfortunately no news on Smith, Vilma and Harper. No news probably means they're accepting a new contract or something.

TheOak 03-12-2013 03:08 PM

Re: Nnamdi is now available.
 
We are no where near under the cap

We are 2.5m Over.
Plus the Draft + practice squad + 3M cushion to start the season.

Halo 03-12-2013 03:09 PM

Re: Nnamdi is now available.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 485296)
We are no where near under the cap

We are 2.5m Over.
Plus the Draft + practice squad + 3M cushion to start the season.

Tru-Dat!

Rugby Saint II 03-12-2013 03:11 PM

Re: Nnamdi is now available.
 
If we want under the cap we need to cut Smith, Vilma and Harper. I know there is more money involved but start making the tough decisions.

lee909 03-12-2013 03:12 PM

And no LT.

triman 03-12-2013 06:09 PM

Re: Nnamdi is now available.
 
Nnamdi would be an upgrade. He was not bad as eagle he just wasn't the savior that they paid big bucks for.

AllSaints 03-12-2013 06:25 PM

Re: Nnamdi is now available.
 
Man if we could get him and woodson..... I would pinch myself N hope I wasn't dreaming ! ! !

ClintSaints 03-12-2013 07:05 PM

Re: Nnamdi is now available.
 
A writer over at canalstreetchronicles argued that we were already under the cap. That's probably not true, but cutting Herring, plus restructuring (i.e. pay cut) for Smith, Vilma, and/or Harper would free up a ton of cap space.

leilung 03-12-2013 07:40 PM

Re: Nnamdi is now available.
 
Seen him play while in Philly and I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole.

His pricetag will be far more than he's worth, because:

1) He doesn't tackle.

2) His man pass defense is atrocious.

Better keep looking. Nnamdi is smoke and mirrors, which is why Philly let him go.

alleycat_126 03-12-2013 09:51 PM

Re: Nnamdi is now available.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leilung (Post 485520)
Seen him play while in Philly and I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole.

His pricetag will be far more than he's worth, because:

1) He doesn't tackle.

2) His man pass defense is atrocious.

Better keep looking. Nnamdi is smoke and mirrors, which is why Philly let him go.

Smoke and Mirrors, sounds like a damn good name for last years D....

westbankdaze 03-12-2013 10:05 PM

Where are we going to get the money for namdi?

alleycat_126 03-12-2013 10:35 PM

Re: Nnamdi is now available.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leilung (Post 485520)


His pricetag will be far more than he's worth




He's getting a new pricetag, which means we set the price.... He's not the player he once was, sure and for two seasons Philly D ruined his rep, yes but he was successful in the scheme that we are moving to that should count for something.... He could help our transition while we find our first ever shutdown corner....



Quote:

Originally Posted by leilung (Post 485520)
1) He doesn't tackle.

2) His man pass defense is atrocious.

Sounds like every the description of every Saints corner for as long as I can remember.

As soon as he puts his name on a Saints contract, he becomes the best CB we have ever had!!!!

WillSaints81 03-13-2013 12:12 PM

Re: Nnamdi is now available.
 
Why is there no news on this guy? You'd think if anyone was interested they'd already pick him up. The only teams I see making a play for him are pats, chiefs or jets if not us. But if jets do, they will be dumb because they are a zone.

Leighton B 03-13-2013 12:52 PM

Re: Nnamdi is now available.
 
Harper's going to get traded or cut, Smith restructured his base from 9mil to 3mil
and Vilma restructured his base from 4.75mil to 1mil! So we saved 9. 75 mil on that then cut Herring saved another 1.75mil so they started 6 mil over but shed almost 12mil So we should be around 6mil to the good!

mikesaintfan 03-13-2013 02:02 PM

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didn't he play for rob ryan in oakland?...if he comes cheap and wants to win, bring him in

Danno 03-13-2013 02:13 PM

Re: Nnamdi ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesaintfan (Post 485936)
didn't he play for rob ryan in oakland?...if he comes cheap and wants to win, bring him in


He played for Ryan for 5 years and was considered the best man CB in the NFL.

biloxi-indian 03-13-2013 04:44 PM

Saints kicking the tires on Asomugha?
 
ProFootballTalk‏@ProFootballTalk

Saints are in on Nnamdi Asomugha derby, too, per league source. He played for defensive coordinator Rob Ryan in Oakland.

lee909 03-13-2013 04:46 PM

Re: Saints kicking the tires on Asomugha?
 
Looks like we want to get the corners sorted pre draft.
Good idea imo,means we can draft bpa in less positions, rather than need.

ClintSaints 03-13-2013 05:02 PM

Re: Saints kicking the tires on Asomugha?
 
Asomugha would be an awesome addition. He was very effective under Ryan when they worked together in Oakland.

TheOak 03-13-2013 05:02 PM

Already a thread on Namdi

sainttommy 03-13-2013 05:02 PM

Re: Saints kicking the tires on Asomugha?
 
Cary, Goldston, Asomugha, Cox, Pollard etc.. are all better than what we had last year. Looks like a decent year to have secondary needs.

FinSaint 03-13-2013 05:21 PM

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha
 
Having already robbed the Eagles blind, I wonder if he'd settle for less this time around to have a legit shot at the ring?!

Seer1 03-13-2013 05:31 PM

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha
 
I don't think he'll get any Eaglesque offers this time around so hopefully a ring will be a huge consideration for him.

NuNu318 03-13-2013 05:44 PM

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 486019)
I don't think he'll get any Eaglesque offers this time around so hopefully a ring will be a huge consideration for him.

He's also ver big on Philanthropy....you have 3 things to attract him off the bat.

1. A perfect opportunity to help the community with a team to does alot with the community.

2. He would be put in a scheme that made him an elite CB in the first place.

3. You'll be playing with Drew Brees....and when you have that type of QB and offense, that means you can win a ring.

triman 03-13-2013 06:34 PM

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha
 
I concur it seems we are in the mix for his services,along with four other teams. RR connection might help with his recruitment. The number of CBs on the market should help push the price down.IMHO playing on a team with a great lockeroom would be attractive for a player who has only played on teams that were to say the least. Disfunctional'

Danno 03-13-2013 06:45 PM

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha
 
Obviously the issue is whether his decline in play due was due to playing in a system totally the opposite of his skillset (square peg/round hole), or has his overall talent significantly declined over the last 2 seasons?

The easy answer is probably a little of both, but he's not exactly old by CB comparisons.

I lean toward the square peg/round hole issue. I know exactly what that looks like.

st thomas 03-13-2013 07:10 PM

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha
 
My my could we afford his services. Not possible. What would he want? If its to be on a winning club , its here. If its for money . Cleveland. Jacksonville.buffalo etc.

CheramieIII 03-13-2013 07:10 PM

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 486062)
Obviously the issue is whether his decline in play due was due to playing in a system totally the opposite of his skillset (square peg/round hole), or has his overall talent significantly declined over the last 2 seasons?

The easy answer is probably a little of both, but he's not exactly old by CB comparisons.

I lean toward the square peg/round hole issue. I know exactly what that looks like.

Ditto Danno

CheramieIII 03-13-2013 07:11 PM

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha
 
Like I said born in Lafayette and RR to coach him is a real good place for Nnamdi to end up his career and with a superbowl win.

triman 03-13-2013 07:13 PM

Re: Nnamdi Asomugha
 
We?Saints fans saw some of that this past year perhaps? A golden apple doesn't turn into a road apple. Players fit in certain systems and not others. Ryan should know better than others, where his talents lie.


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