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alleycat_126 03-19-2013 02:41 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luda34 (Post 488030)
there going to keep all of them this year and maybe next year Greer will be gone. You can never have to many DB's But I do think Corey White will see a lot of playing time this year.


It's funny I do, health is his issue. I think he's a gamer, we know he's got a swag to him ( Mr. I'm gonna pick off Drew Brees in Training Camp) He listed now as being 6ft, my guess is maybe they are being generous there. If Nnamdi is your 2, Keenan your 1, or vise versa I want Corey White as my first guy in the slot. Keep Jabari off the field as long as you can.... ( Not for lack of skill Jabari lovers!!!!) But, am I the only one..... Jabari hasn't played one full healthy season!!!! If you can take advantage with your youth in the beginning of the season.... White, Lewis.... I think you'll get the best of what Nnamdi and Jabari have left......

Leighton B 03-19-2013 02:43 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Showtime5 (Post 488006)
I believe we should try Roman Harper at an OLB position nd maybe give Jabari Greer or Patrick Robinson a try at Safety , they can't be any worst then Harper

YOU HAVE TO JOKING Harper can't tackle nor even think about setting an edge at 215lbs Your joking or just plain ignorant!
The only asset Roman Harper has is blitzing from the SS position he can't go up against a
TE much less a Tackle! So linebacker never but trade bait yes because Harper's skills are needed in a 4-3 where an extra Blitzer is needed because 4-3 usually doesn't have OLB like 3-4 has who are usually passrushing specialist unlike Sam and Will linebacker's who are olb in a 4-3 where they are assigned responsibilities to account for!

rezburna 03-19-2013 02:43 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 488041)
It's funny I do, health is his issue. I think he's a gamer, we know he's got a swag to him ( Mr. I'm gonna pick off Drew Brees in Training Camp) He listed now as being 6ft, my guess is maybe they are being generous there. If Nnamdi is your 2, Keenan your 1, or vise versa I want Corey White as my first guy in the slot. Keep Jabari off the field as long as you can.... ( Not for lack of skill Jabari lovers!!!!) But, am I the only one..... Jabari hasn't played one full healthy season!!!! If you can take advantage with your youth in the beginning of the season.... White, Lewis.... I think you'll get the best of what Nnamdi and Jabari have left......

I don't think we have to worry about Nnamdi's health at all. His endurance and health has never been a problem. I want to see if White get's better too though...Jabari is the person we might need to keep in the reserves and healthy for later in the season.

TheEnigma 03-19-2013 02:47 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
Keep Greer for insurance and cut Robinson

Leighton B 03-19-2013 02:56 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
WE WILL DRAFT A SAFETY
and probably sign a veteran safety like Ed Reed or Charles Woodson
Unless we get a top notch safety in the first half of draft!

Danno 03-19-2013 02:59 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
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Originally Posted by Leighton B (Post 488042)
YOU HAVE TO JOKING Harper can't tackle nor even think about setting an edge at 215lbs Your joking or just plain ignorant!
The only asset Roman Harper has is blitzing from the SS position he can't go up against a
TE much less a Tackle! So linebacker never but trade bait yes because Harper's skills are needed in a 4-3 where an extra Blitzer is needed because 4-3 usually doesn't have OLB like 3-4 has who are usually passrushing specialist unlike Sam and Will linebacker's who are olb in a 4-3 where they are assigned responsibilities to account for!

I DON'T SEE you lasting much longer here with that type of hostility in your replies. This isn't a smack board or a politics board.

NuNu318 03-19-2013 03:37 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leighton B (Post 488053)
WE WILL DRAFT A SAFETY

And who from the Front Office told you that?

FinSaint 03-19-2013 03:40 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alleycat_126 (Post 488041)
Keep Jabari off the field as long as you can.... ( Not for lack of skill Jabari lovers!!!!) But, am I the only one..... Jabari hasn't played one full healthy season!!!!


Jabari Greer:


2005: Buffalo Bills - 16 games
2006: Buffalo Bills - 16 games
2007: Buffalo Bills - 16 games
2011: New Orleans Saints - 16 games


No football player ever has a "full healthy season" - that is if they see any extended time on the field - but Greer has played a full season four times in his career and has averaged 14 games a season during his career.


I'm in favor of checking the facts out before stating untrue things. ;-)

alleycat_126 03-19-2013 03:40 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leighton B (Post 488053)
WE WILL DRAFT A SAFETY
and probably sign a veteran safety like Ed Reed or Charles Woodson
Unless we get a top notch safety in the first half of draft!

Micheal Huff!!!! A younger already paid version!!!

Mardigras9 03-19-2013 03:50 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
What if ? Until it actually happens it's only a guessing game.

Shoe. 03-19-2013 03:58 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
For real, I dreamt that we signed Nnamdi. Waking up was harder than usual...

WhoDat!656 03-19-2013 04:04 PM

New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
In today’s day and age, the casual NFL fan is so infatuated with big name players and so called “steals” that they lose sight of the things that matter most. The New Orleans Saints are one of the teams who have a fan base that wants a quick fix, but I can assure you that signing a player like Nnamdi Asomugha only brings them further away from playoff contention.

I was a fan of the team signing Keenan Lewis, as I think the former Pittsburgh Steelers defensive back is going to bring a veteran dynamic to a secondary that was atrocious in 2013. Rob Ryan is no stranger to controversy, but even he can’t be welcoming Asomugha and his hefty asking price.

Adding the former Philadelphia Eagles player would be like spraying air freshener on a stench that is going to linger for months. I can’t argue with the Saints trying to get better, but they need to improve the defense via the NFL draft rather than the free agent market. These players are available for a reason, and the Saints are so far behind the curve that they must focus on other ways to improve the roster.

The Saints went into this free agency period over the NFL salary cap, and now they feel the need to splurge on a 31-year-old defensive back? Moronic.

Ryan may want all the weapons he wants to reconnect with his former pupil from the Oakland Raiders, but if they don’t start to rebuild via the draft, they will continue to spin their wheels. Lewis is going to do fine in his first year with the Saints, so they need not focus on the cornerback position in free agency again.

With the club being $5.4M under the cap, I don’t see why the Saints would even consider bringing in Asomugha. A defense this awful should have a long-term plan, and needs to stop attacking stop-gap players like the free agent cornerback.

New Orleans Saints Should Not Sign Nnamdi Asomugha

Danno 03-19-2013 04:13 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 487993)
Keep them all and let the football Gods sort them out!

This should have ended this thread. Unfortunately it didn't.

It costs us less than 2 miilion to keep these guys in lieu of cutting them.

rezburna 03-19-2013 04:20 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
I believe we're a playoff team regardless. The coordinator didn't fit the personnel and our head coach was missing. Nnamdi or not, we're fine. However, he does make us better. There isn't a corner in this draft that could come in and do better then Nnamdi could right now.

alexonfyre 03-19-2013 04:29 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
I usually agree with the stuff you post, but this construction of the free agency market is completely off-base. The Eagles are a mess right now, and they have entirely mismanaged their personnel, particularly on defense, it is no wonder they let Asomugha go and that he would want to. Furthermore, the Saints are not going to use an early round pick this year on a CB, or even a safety, the safe money is on D-Line or Linebacker. This isn't because they don't want to, but there simply isn't any talent worth taking at our position. Signing Asomugha to a one-year or two-year conditional tender would be a good way to shore up our secondary until we can find a more long term solution, and if you think any DC wouldn't be happy to have a veteran leader like Nnamdi you are crazy, especially Rob, who built his career with him. Lastly, adopting your position would force me to assume that Mickey Loomis has offered a cap crippling amount to land him, and it would be completely out of character for him to make such a risky move so rashly.

So...sorry, but with all due respect, I completely disagree with this argument.

Utah_Saint 03-19-2013 04:29 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
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Originally Posted by Leighton B (Post 488042)
YOU HAVE TO JOKING Harper can't tackle...

Harper's not a bad tackler. He's been #1 or 2 in tackles on the team every year since his rookie season. His total tackle attempts/missed tackles percentage isn't bad either.

The idea of Harper playing LB has been discussed on this board several times. I tend to agree with you that he's too light and would have a hard time shedding blockers.

I've read that Rob Ryan likes to run variations on the 46 defense, like GW used to do. If he plans on doing that here Harper could excel in the SS position. Otherwise, if RR is counting on a lot of coverage out of his safeties then I agree that the Saints should explore what they might be able to get for him. I don't know if anybody would be willing to pick up his salary though.

Utah_Saint 03-19-2013 04:34 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
How much is Asomugha's "hefty asking price"?

TheEnigma 03-19-2013 04:38 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
I would have been better off not reading this. I want Nnamdi

dizzle88 03-19-2013 04:49 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
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Originally Posted by TheEnigma (Post 488090)
I would have been better off not reading this. I want Nnamdi

Agreed

Nnamdi is a great player who was in a terrible situation with the eagles

Bring him here, RR knows what to do

alleycat_126 03-19-2013 04:58 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 488065)
Jabari Greer:
2011: New Orleans Saints - 16 games

I'm in favor of checking the facts out before stating untrue things. ;-)

First, your right.... Im sorry. 2nd IMO his bills time is irrelavant, did it give us any W's?

3rd Can you blame me? Sports hernia, concussion, shoulder, knee, bruised ego, s**t I've lost track. I understand that every NFL player is gonna be injured, then there are some players that are injury prone!!! Jabari IMO is the latter. I never said dude couldn't play, I think Jabari supporters confuse the two..... Even if we hard an elite pass rush. He's not a number one corner!!!! You know as well as I do his best days were at the two, and in the slot.

Rugby Saint II 03-19-2013 05:13 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leighton B (Post 488042)
YOU HAVE TO JOKING Harper can't tackle nor even think about setting an edge at 215lbs Your joking or just plain ignorant!
The only asset Roman Harper has is blitzing from the SS position he can't go up against a
TE much less a Tackle! So linebacker never but trade bait yes because Harper's skills are needed in a 4-3 where an extra Blitzer is needed because 4-3 usually doesn't have OLB like 3-4 has who are usually passrushing specialist unlike Sam and Will linebacker's who are olb in a 4-3 where they are assigned responsibilities to account for!

There is a little posting ettique that needs to be adhered to here.............

#1-Try to not piss everybody off by calling people names
#2-Bold caps mean that you are yelling
#3-See #1 :argue:

pherein 03-19-2013 05:14 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
merge the 3 into a genetcally enhance rookie. Change defence into a 4-7-1
, and have the mighty Rnamdi Jabar cover all pass catchers.

SmashMouth 03-19-2013 05:18 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
A Oakie said earlier .... may the Football Gods decide..... in this case, Loomie and SP!

CheramieIII 03-19-2013 05:35 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
Find a way to keep them all and cut something somewhere else. with greer, robinson, lewis, Nnamdi, jenkins and harper we would have the best secondary in football. We also have solid linebackers in lofton, hawthorne, galette, wilson, vilma and a couple of good DE and DT. That's where we need to focus most of our energy after Nnamdi comes in.

DemonicSaint 03-19-2013 05:39 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
I think that if he is willing to take a discount to play with a talented team, it could be a great pick up. Rob seems to know how to use him, he and greer could teach the younger corners the ins and outs. I say give it a chance.

Seer1 03-19-2013 05:51 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 488119)
Find a way to keep them all and cut something somewhere else. with greer, robinson, lewis, Nnamdi, jenkins and harper we would have the best secondary in football. We also have solid linebackers in lofton, hawthorne, galette, wilson, vilma and a couple of good DE and DT. That's where we need to focus most of our energy after Nnamdi comes in.

Damned if it ain't that time of year to be getting optimistic! Don't forget we have a new confident DC too!

Rugby Saint II 03-19-2013 05:53 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
Maybe his feelings were hurt that we only gave him a little time with the GM and HC. I guess we expected Ryan to close the deal for us.
Regardless, it looks like Ryan does know how to use Namdi Asomaaaaarrrggghhhhhhhhhhhh.(sp?)

nycsaintfan 03-19-2013 06:04 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
I don't mind if we can sign a guy like Nnamdi. But our problem is the front 7... not so much corner back. New coordinator or not, you can't mask the fact that the same players who have not been able to give you a pass rush the past few seasons are still here.

I don't care who we have playing corner for us. In todays game, most secondary's are going struggle without a good pass rush.

rezburna 03-19-2013 06:06 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nycsaintfan (Post 488138)
I don't mind if we can sign a guy like Nnamdi. But our problem is the front 7... not so much corner back. New coordinator or not, you can't mask the fact that the same players who have not been able to give you a pass rush the past few seasons are still here.

I don't care who we have playing corner for us. In todays game, most secondary's are going struggle without a good pass rush.

I agree.

CheramieIII 03-19-2013 06:10 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
I think if we do get him we won't spend much in cap the first year. Loomis knows what he's doing. The fact that Coach and Loomis met with Nnamdi means alot to me. I think there just trying to work the details out now. If we could keep Lewis, Nnamdi, Greer and Robinson together for 3 years that is 3 possible Superbowls and that's hard for anyone to pass up.

AllSaints 03-19-2013 06:12 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
How would signing him bring us out of playoff contention ? ? ? whaaaaa ? ?? if anything he will bring Vet Experience that we need with our Corners ...

alleycat_126 03-19-2013 06:13 PM

Re: If the New Orleans Saints sign Nnamdi Asomugha what should they do with Jabari Greer, Patrick Robinson?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pherein (Post 488107)
merge the 3 into a genetcally enhance rookie. Change defence into a 4-7-1
, and have the mighty Rnamdi Jabar cover all pass catchers.

Watch out for rodger ..... Nothing illegal!!!

burningmetal 03-19-2013 06:15 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
I stopped reading after the second paragraph. It was more than enough to see that this is an extremely insulting article.

First off, what's with this crap about us being one of the fan bases who wants a quick fix? What the hell does this guy know about our fans? EVERY single fan base has people who want a quick fix, and we are absolutely no exception. But to suggest that ALL of us want a quick fix is absurd. The vast majority of us are well informed and are painfully aware of our cap situation, and the fact that we can't just splurge.

Secondly, most of us are not infatuated with just names. I, for one, know the difference between a washed up old star, and a veteran who has quality football left in him at a reasonable price. I don't want Nnamdi because I recognize his name. I want him because he was great not that long ago, and I find it hard to believe that he just forgot how to play football at the age of 31.

And why does this guy think Asomugha has a hefty asking price? Has he spoken to him personally? I've read a lot of articles about Nnamdi in recent days, and I have yet to see any salary figures thrown around.

Lastly, how can Nnamdi possibly make us worse? As I've said, I believe he has good years left, and could possibly be elite again. But given how bad our secondary was, how could Asomugha, of all people, make us worse?

That's four degrees of stupidity... In two paragraphs.

SmashMouth 03-19-2013 06:28 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 488088)
How much is Asomugha's "hefty asking price"?

Probably in the same neighborhood as Ed Reed! Time to move on and save some dough.

nola_swammi 03-19-2013 06:34 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
I agree with what is said too. Investing 5 million a year for three corners seem to be too much when we switching to 3 /4 without a PROVEN pass rusher. I trust whatever loomis and sp approve cuz they prove me wrong before. Go SAINTS

NinthWardJay 03-19-2013 06:41 PM

How many millions are we devoting to the running game? I want Nnamdi! Make it happen Loomis

CheramieIII 03-19-2013 06:48 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
I guarantee if we get him if won't be 5 million the first 2 years. More along the lines of a 5 million signing bonus and 2 mill a year

TheOak 03-19-2013 08:11 PM

http://www.nola.com/saints/index.ssf...ther_nnam.html

CheramieIII 03-19-2013 08:19 PM

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 
Fit right in I said

WillSaints81 03-19-2013 08:28 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Better Off Not Signing Nnamdi Asomugha
 
The one thing that does concern me is that while it may work for one season, Namdi could fall off the next. I actually don't think teams took time to break down offseason game film on him when he was with the raiders and that was because he played for the raiders. They were beatable by any average or better team.


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