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Joker 03-14-2013 07:09 PM

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I would much rather see them sign Aquib Talib,

K Major 03-14-2013 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Joker (Post 486558)
I would much rather see them sign Aquib Talib,

+1.

saintsfan1976 03-14-2013 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Joker (Post 486558)
I would much rather see them sign Aquib Talib,

No way Jose.

Don't forget Namdi played under two different DCs in two seasons at Philly (which was a dumpster fire at the time).

Dude would thrive in New Orleans. We just don't have the money.



If we can only get one more FA, I'd rather have Victor Butler.

AllSaints 03-14-2013 07:42 PM

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we getting CBs n FA that means we R going to get PASS RUSHERS N LINEBACKERS n the draft ahh yeahh.... But if KEnny Vaccarro is there aw man I hope we draft him ! ! !

Joker 03-14-2013 07:45 PM

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Are you people forgetting that a left tackle is needed for the Saints to continue to win. I know Bushrod wasn't all that but he was better than what's on the roster right now.

saintsfan1976 03-14-2013 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Joker (Post 486578)
Are you people forgetting that a left tackle is needed for the Saints to continue to win. I know Bushrod wasn't all that but he was better than what's on the roster right now.

And what was on the roster before him was better than he was.

Am I concerned about Charles Brown? Sure. But history has shown that after loosing a lineman to FA, this team is fine.

WillSaints81 03-14-2013 08:04 PM

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That does concern me and the cardinals and chargers may end up getting the two offensive tackles in the first round. We may have to trade up.

|Mitch| 03-14-2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 486586)
But history has shown that after loosing a lineman to FA, this team is fine.

and Loomis/Payton never overpay for O-Linemen, refer to what the Bears just gave Bushrod...

and what happened with Nicks...

Jamessr 03-14-2013 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 486549)
Nnamdi Asomugha didn't eat with rest of Philadelphia Eagles -- report - ESPN

But is he a good teammate? He reportedly pointed the finger to his teammates when coverage broke down...

If the shoe fits...
Sometimes things need to be said

voodooido 03-14-2013 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 486553)
If we sign Nnamdi Asomugha, then Greer and Robinson are done...

I would take Greer any day over him!

Joker 03-14-2013 08:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 486586)
And what was on the roster before him was better than he was.

Am I concerned about Charles Brown? Sure. But history has shown that after loosing a lineman to FA, this team is fine.

.

For how much longer, Charles Brown to protect your 100 million dollar QB. I guess not!!!!

saintsfan1976 03-14-2013 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Joker (Post 486593)
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For how much longer, Charles Brown to protect your 100 million dollar QB. I guess not!!!!

I don't really get your point but it sounds like you're concerned about CB too.

Marcel Jones is a big boy. He might step up (?)

Joker 03-14-2013 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 486599)
I don't really get your point but it sounds like you're concerned about CB too.

Marcel Jones is a big boy. He might step up (?)

My point is we have no left tackle on the roster and CB sucks!!!!!!!!!!
Is it sinking in yet?

saintsfan1976 03-14-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Joker (Post 486600)
My point is we have no left tackle on the roster and CB sucks!!!!!!!!!!
Is it sinking in yet?

Yeah, it's sinking in. All the !!!!! helped that time..

So were you this frightened after Faine or Stinch or Brown or Goodwin or Nicks left also?

Things will be fine bro.

Joker 03-14-2013 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 486603)
Yeah, it's sinking in. All the !!!!! helped that time..

So were you this frightened after Faine or Stinch or Brown or Goodwin or Nicks left also?

Things will be fine bro.

I hope things will be fine, which one of the guys mentioned above was a left tackle?

saintsfan1976 03-14-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Joker (Post 486605)
I hope things will be fine, which one of the guys mentioned above was a left tackle?

Jammal Brown. Mr. false start.

Point is - the QB makes our line, not the other way around.

lumm0x 03-14-2013 08:50 PM

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Brees definitely has the pocket awareness and shiftiness to make bad lineman look decent. I am not comfortable with our starting tackles being Brown, Streif, Jones, or Robinson. We will need to add a better body whether it's a FA or our 1st pick.

As for Nnamdi, I really am not interested in him.

Danno 03-14-2013 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 486606)
Jammal Brown. Mr. false start.

Point is - the QB makes our line, not the other way around.

We disagree.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Goodwin
Carl Nicks

Both of those guys played excellently after they left here. Some could say Goodwin even bumped up his game after leaving, with Alex Friggin Smith at QB.

Danno 03-14-2013 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lumm0x (Post 486613)
Brees definitely has the pocket awareness and shiftiness to make bad lineman look decent. I am not comfortable with our starting tackles being Brown, Streif, Jones, or Robinson. We will need to add a better body whether it's a FA or our 1st pick.

As for Nnamdi, I really am not interested in him.

Agreed, after signing Lewis, my Nmandi crush has totally fizzled.

|Mitch| 03-14-2013 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 486618)
We disagree.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Goodwin
Carl Nicks

Both of those guys played excellently after they left here. Some could say Goodwin even bumped up his game after leaving, with Alex Friggin Smith at QB.

How many games did Nicks play before he ended up on IR?

alleycat_126 03-14-2013 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 486619)
Agreed, after signing Lewis, my Nmandi crush has totally fizzled.

Not mine, nor sexy ROB's ( somebody's gonna say it, I thought I'd be the first) 6ft corners are in style here..... Jabari and Roman may have to starts looking for work elsewhere.

saintsfan1976 03-14-2013 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 486618)
We disagree.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Goodwin
Carl Nicks

Both of those guys played excellently after they left here. Some could say Goodwin even bumped up his game after leaving, with Alex Friggin Smith at QB.

Yea, but it didn't affect the Saints O line bc DLP stepped up.

and how lucky Goodwin plays between: Staley, Iupati, Boone and Davis

TheEnigma 03-14-2013 10:43 PM

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Nnamdi Asomugha just left the @49ers facility. What happens next? I have the exclusive. #FreeAgency

https://twitter.com/Akbar_Gbaja

So he left the facility. Was it with or without a contract?

Danno 03-14-2013 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 486621)
How many games did Nicks play before he ended up on IR?

What does that have to do with anything?

Vrillon82 03-15-2013 12:57 AM

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The RT and LT position is not as important on our team as the middle where Grubbs and Evans are as well as De'lapuente.

Its because we got RBs and TEs that chip block which gives Brees plenty time to release the ball.

jeanpierre 03-15-2013 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 486646)
The RT and LT position is not as important on our team as the middle where Grubbs and Evans are as well as De'lapuente.

Its because we got RBs and TEs that chip block which gives Brees plenty time to release the ball.

Understand the point about how Brees is protected, but...

Okay, so how do we get back to a balanced attack with a running game with Charlie Brown and Zack Strief manning the Tackle positions?

We have a problem...

SaintPauly 03-15-2013 03:46 AM

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Our problem with secondary, is depth gentlemen..... With Nhamdi and Lewis, AND Greer, coached up to their potential, ALL of our front 7 will do a better job getting to the QB....

TheOak 03-15-2013 05:36 AM

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We do not want

FinSaint 03-15-2013 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 486661)
We do not want


Asomugha?

Who wouldn't want to add him to their roster, you'd have to crazy not to want him!


I don't think it's a matter of if a team - i.e. the Saints - wants him or not, but rather if they can negotiate a contract with such a player that'll tilt the odds in favor of the team coming on top in the investment vs return equation.

TheOak 03-15-2013 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 486666)
Asomugha?

Who wouldn't want to add him to their roster, you'd have to crazy not to want him!


I don't think it's a matter of if a team - i.e. the Saints - wants him or not, but rather if they can negotiate a contract with such a player that'll tilt the odds in favor of the team coming on top in the investment vs return equation.

Get past the brand name, watch the tape.

"All Kelly could say about Asomugha was, “I don’t have his group of plays, or how he played in Game 1 through the last game of the season,” then after more questions, “I think Nnamdi has the skill set (pause) that can play football.”
We all know that the former Oakland Raiders cornerback played horribly in 2012. He can no longer run with the faster receivers in the league, his quickness and change of direction are subpar and he seems indecisive when he comes up into the press technique, which used to be his strength. Bottomline, he’s no where near worth the the $15 million dollars they slated to pay him now."


Chip Kelly Speaks Well Of Foles And Ryans, But Not Asomugha | GCOBB.COM

FinSaint 03-15-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 486668)
Get past the brand name, watch the tape.

"All Kelly could say about Asomugha was, “I don’t have his group of plays, or how he played in Game 1 through the last game of the season,” then after more questions, “I think Nnamdi has the skill set (pause) that can play football.”
We all know that the former Oakland Raiders cornerback played horribly in 2012. He can no longer run with the faster receivers in the league, his quickness and change of direction are subpar and he seems indecisive when he comes up into the press technique, which used to be his strength. Bottomline, he’s no where near worth the the $15 million dollars they slated to pay him now."


Chip Kelly Speaks Well Of Foles And Ryans, But Not Asomugha | GCOBB.COM


Yeah, but that's all relative...

Quote:

he’s no where near worth the the $15 million dollars they slated to pay him now

None of his suitors at present are looking at his skill set and planning to pay him $15M/yr, but at $4-5M/yr his skill set suddenly looks a lot better.

RockyMountainSaint 03-15-2013 10:54 AM

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Asomugha, Woodson in “serious discussions” with 49ers | ProFootballTalk

hagan714 03-15-2013 11:00 AM

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pass we need to get more than one player for the money he will want

papz 03-15-2013 11:03 AM

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And it wasn't just Asomugha who underachieved and overpaid on that roster, lots of players underperformed. DRC, Cullen Jenkins, Jason Babin, Trent Cole, etc. Not take to make excuses for those guys, but I'm sure the coaching and locker room played a part in all of them failing miserably. I'm sure a scouting report on a majority of their players on defense last year wouldn't be too favorable.

At a discounted rate, while there still would be plenty of risk involved, it could certainly be very worthwhile to kick the tires on a possible deal.

NuNu318 03-15-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 486744)
pass we need to get more than one player for the money he will want

No one even knows how much money he's asking for if he's already still going to get paid 4mil this season from the Eagles.

papz 03-15-2013 11:05 AM

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True. What if the asking price is 2 million? Added on with the money the Eagles are paying him, that's still more than what DRC got from Denver and on average from what KC is playing Sean Smith. It's also still more than what we gave Lewis. He gets to re-unite with his former DC on a contending team... that could lead to nice multi year deal the upcoming offseason.

FinSaint 03-15-2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 486747)
True. What if the asking price is 2 million? Added on with the money the Eagles are paying him, that's still more than what DRC got from Denver and on average from what KC is playing Sean Smith. It's also still more than what we gave Lewis. He gets to re-unite with his former DC on a contending team... that could lead to nice multi year deal the upcoming offseason.


True, a 1-year contract like the one you proposed could be really good for him financially, since the market was/is flooded with quality CBs this offseason his market value wasn't/isn't as high as it could be f.e. next offseason.

NuNu318 03-15-2013 11:40 AM

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Just got very interesting tho......

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Jake Long likely to leave STL without deal NFL | Jake Long likely to leave STL without deal - Rotoworld.com

RockyMountainSaint 03-15-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by NuNu318 (Post 486752)
Just got very interesting tho......

Rotoworld Football‏@Rotoworld_FB
Jake Long likely to leave STL without deal NFL | Jake Long likely to leave STL without deal - Rotoworld.com



The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports free agent LT Jake Long is ready to leave St. Louis without a deal Friday, and that "multiple teams" are showing interest.
Long spent three days in St. Louis, but it's obviously not a good sign for the Rams that he's leaving without having signed on the dotted line. Miami is believed to be his other serious suitor, but it sounds like are other teams are ready to get in the mix. With a host of fallback options having come off the market during Long's marathon visit, the Rams may have cost themselves their best chance at upgrading Sam Bradford's blindside situation.

SmashMouth 03-15-2013 12:07 PM

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Hasn't Asomugha become a "toast" Machine?

http://www.slipperybrick.com/wp-cont...ty-toaster.jpg


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