re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

Good player in a bad system.

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

He wants more than $4M.

Ill put his 2012 performance into perspective for you.

Patrick Robinson - 18 passes defended.
Nnamdi - 12 passes defended.....
2012 NFL Player Defense Stats - National Football League - ESPN

2011
Greer - 18
Nnamdi - 5



Look at his stats... Help me understand why he is so stellar in so many peoples eyes. if he is not an upgrade to Patrick Robinson why do we want him?

A cornerback is measured on the following correct?

Passes Defended
Interceptions
Possibly sacks?

Nnamdi Asomugha Stats - ESPN
Patrick Robinson Stats - New Orleans Saints - ESPN


2012 CB rankings
Advanced NFL Stats Player Statistics
Greer and Robinson rank higher

2011 CB rankings
Porter, Robinson and Greer ranked higher
Advanced NFL Stats Player Statistics

2010 CB rankings

Nnamdi doesn't even make the list but played 14 games
Porter and greer both on the list
Advanced NFL Stats Player Statistics

2009 CB Rankings
Greer and Porter above him again
Advanced NFL Stats Player Statistics

I must be missing something. For a first round draft pick his play seems underwhelming.

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

We all know he sucked the past 2 years... there's no denying that. But we're talking in the instance that he takes a reduced amount of money. While he may not or become stellar anymore, he still young enough to be an above average cornerback again. It's all about risk reward... if the risk isn't high, it doesn't hurt to kick the tires on him.

Remember there was a time in Oakland under Ryan when teams flat out refused to throw the ball on his side of the field. So if we're looking at his counting stats, it's not going to be up there. His play in Oakland was far from underwhelming... he was arguably the best cornerback in the league.

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

We just signed a new corner.............NA is larger than life everywhere except on the field. Greer is the man this coming season and is going to be our number one corner for a couple of more years. P Rob has been given one more chance. We've still got White who is up and coming and another corner whose name escapes me...........he was strong last year before going to IR. So I'll pass on NA.

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

yeah... I guess you want fewer passes defensed.. meaning they don't wanna throw on your side ... still has he now become a Jason David impersonator?

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

Not that this does him any favors, but I think he has the Randy Moss syndrome. Great talent that has motivational issues. And from what I've read, he hated his time in Philly. He was isolated towards his teammates and come meal time, he'd go sit in his car and eat by himself.

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

That lockeroom was kinda toxic tho....I don't think he was used to that at all. Which probably isolated him from the rest of the team. I mean come on Philly is brutal to play in especially when you're stuggling. I would sit in my car and eat too just to get some peace when dealing with the media in the lockeroom, to the diva players. Nnamdi has always been a quiet and humble person...I don't think that lockeroom meshed well with his personality.

I think here he could get back to his playing roots with RR and being in a humble enviroment...not going to have to deal with media in you face all day everyday because we all know Payton (especially now) is not playing that.

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

Good point... I forgot about the media aspect and fan base side of it too.

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

I want him but at the same time Oak doesnt and he appears to be probably a very knowledgable saints fan.

But now I think Long is a bigger need. I hope the guy signs with the cards or chargers if not us.

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

So.. I am honestly asking. Do you think its a better chance his play has dropped off in the last two years because he was in Philly or because he has been playing for 10 years and lost his step... Ive heard a lot of what I call experts (that have participated in this game from playing to coaching to FO) say he has lost a step or two at 30 Yo.


With 8 years in the league before he went to Philly, he had to have known how the place was..

He also does not play special teams anymore, which I think lowers his value even more.

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

Smoke and mirrors brother :-)

I have just seen the Saints pick up way too many (used to be's) in my lifetime, because lets face it, we love a BIG name coming to town... At a time when we are short on money and long on need... I can see us getting better value for our $ with less risk... Risk is my biggest concern.... as we can not afford to be wrong and have him come in and have lost his step.

Sharper had one good year left in him and we got that but after 2009 he was done.

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

I think it's a combination of both. But even if he's lost a step or two, it doesn't mean he still can't be pretty good.

There's a big difference visiting a place as opposed to living there. And at the end of the day, money talks... and it was a lot of money. I've moved to places before knowing exactly how the place was(crappy), but did it anyways because of the money. I was miserable... and eventually moved back home for less.

If you think that way, then his price tag should be even more dampened... lowering the risk factor. That said, if I signed Nnamdi, he's not playing special teams.

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

I am of the opinion that after Jim Johnson died in 2008 (Eagles last deep playoff run) they never replaced the guy. Eventually the horrible defense play and mid-season defensive coaching shuffle contributed to Andy Reid getting canned.

Great read: Eagles Must Find The Next Jim Johnson - SB Nation Philly

As for Asomugha, the past 3 or 4 times I saw the Eagles play the past couple years I didn't key in on him, but he started. I also felt like the Eagles had talent on their defense, a big beefy d-line, quick DB's, and they played like they were stoned or something. Watching both the Dallas and Atlanta games last year was almost laughable for the Eagles D as a whole. Been proven that giving a veteran a new team can get him to perform again. He is only 31 so he has a good 3 to 4 years left in him.

Remember, Nnamdi is a local (from Lafayette, LA) so it would be a great place to close-out his career.

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

I knew he is from Lafayette, I am from Abbeville.. I suppose I am starting to agree with the feeling that some are stating in regards to any FA's... Maybe it is time we look for youth and start building something long term.

Picking up players with only a few years left means that every few years we are going through this same exact cycle...

I stopped buying anything but Deuce jerseys because of that LOL.

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

I['m not going to blame Nnamdi Asomugha or anyone on the Eagles defense for the issues. Mainly I'm going to blame Juan Castillo for never having coached the defensive side of the field when he took over. He made good folks look bad and was NEVER able to bring that defense together

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

Weren't the Eagles Defense near 8-10th in the league when he got let go? The offense never gelled.

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

2012 they were middle of the pack.. 15 overall I think

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

Ohhh how would have loved to have that awful 15th ranked defense in 2012 :-)

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

When I mentioned earlier about why Nnamdi's counting stats weren't there as a Raider... here is the evidence.

That's right... 13 completed passes. 1 touchdown in 3 years.

How did Nnamdi Asomugha's skills erode so quickly? | Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia

Backs up the majority of what I discussed earlier. System, etc.

Does anybody else get that feeling that the lack of news towards Nnamdi means that he is more likely to end up with the Saints

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

Not really as we haven't brought him in for a visit yet. We know he's at least visited the 49ers.

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

What? No tweets? For all we know Rob and Nnamdi have been speed dialing each other for days.

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

Well, considering the Eagles fired everybody in their secondary, perhaps he was right. Their secondary was maybe worse than ours last year. Besides, he was probably tired of everybody saying he was a bust, when if they would have used him right we wouldn't be having this discussion. If you hire the second-best (arguably best) man-press corner in the league and then make him play zone, he will probably fall off (and he did). Ron would use him right, and with Keenan locking down the other side, I don't think he'd be as sullen here.

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

Plus, anyone remember reading Payton's book about the bus being egged in Philly? There's much better places to eat lunch in NO than in a parking lot.

I just read that Nnamdi is scheduled to meet with the Saints tomorrow

re: Nnamdi Asomugha (All in one)
 

Nnamdi visiting Saints on Sunday
Posted by Mike Florio on March 16, 2013, 11:55 PM EDT
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The Saints are one of the teams interested in cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha. And now Asomugha is interested in the Saints.

Matt Maiocco of CSNBayArea.com reports that Asomugha will visit the Saints on Sunday.

As recently explained, the relationship between Asomugha and Saints defensive coordinator Rob Ryan could be a huge factor. “[Asomugha] loves him and trusts him,” a source with knowledge of the situation recently told PFT.

The Nnamdi-Ryan connnection, which traces to their mutual time together in Oakland, nearly resulted in Asomugha joining the Cowboys in 2011.

At last word, Asomugha was in “serious discussions” with the 49ers. Other interested teams include the Cardinals, Broncos, and Texans.

Nnamdi visiting Saints on Sunday
 

Here comes Nnamdi, make it happen Loomis!!! Secondary looking bright for 2013 if we can get this kid signed and Ed.

Re: Namdi coming to New Orleans tommorow!!!!
 

Source?

Nnamdi Asomugha to visit
 

Free agent CB Nnamdi Asomugha will visit the Saints on Sunday.

Asomugha is leaving his 49ers visit, but they remain in the hunt. Asomugha, 32 in July, played for new Saints DC Rob Ryan from 2004-08 while with the Raiders. Even after signing Keenan Lewis last week, New Orleans is still looking for more pieces. The New Orleans Times-Picayune thinks one of Patrick Robinson or Jabari Greer could be released.

Related: Saints
Source: Matt Maiocco on Twitter

Re: nnamdi asomugha to visit
 

You are playin? Where's the work up on this?

Re: Namdi coming to New Orleans tommorow!!!!
 

@MaioccoCSN

Free agent CB Nnamdi Asomugha is scheduled to visit the Saints tomorrow, according to a source.





Nnamdi cant leave without a contract. Loomis and Ryan lets go..

There are a couple people that reported this, I can't post links because I'm on my phone but I believe I even saw the official Saints twitter page tweet that he was coming in to visit

Re: nnamdi asomugha to visit
 

Just got a message from bleacher report saying this also. Hopefully with this kid and maybe ed reed, things will begin to fall into place for 2013!!!! Ecstatic!!!!!

Re: nnamdi asomugha to visit
 

Nnamdi visiting Saints on Sunday
Posted by Mike Florio on March 16, 2013, 11:55 PM EDT
9845720-large Getty Images

The Saints are one of the teams interested in cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha. And now Asomugha is interested in the Saints.

Matt Maiocco of CSNBayArea.com reports that Asomugha will visit the Saints on Sunday.

As recently explained, the relationship between Asomugha and Saints defensive coordinator Rob Ryan could be a huge factor. “[Asomugha] loves him and trusts him,” a source with knowledge of the situation recently told PFT.

The Nnamdi-Ryan connnection, which traces to their mutual time together in Oakland, nearly resulted in Asomugha joining the Cowboys in 2011.

At last word, Asomugha was in “serious discussions” with the 49ers. Other interested teams include the Cardinals, Broncos, and Texans.

It is pretty interesting that now both Nnamdi and Ed Reed are going to be in NoLa at the same time. Restructures and/or cuts on the way??

Re: nnamdi asomugha to visit
 

Restructure Harper, buy Shanle a bus ticket outta here and get these 2 guys on board!!!!!

Re: nnamdi asomugha to visit
 

Well Rob Ryan has been pushing hard for us to bring him in and it looks like he is getting his wish. Wouldn't surprise me if Asomugha is a Saint by the end of Sunday or early next week. If Ryan is really this intent on getting him, I can't see us not signing him.

Re: Namdi coming to New Orleans tommorow!!!!
 

I'm very excited about this, but I'm torn also. Can we afford him after the big Keenan Lewis contract? And we still need a left tackle and a defensive end, but I guess we can address these in the draft.

Cutting Roman Harper outright would allow us to address ALL of these however.....

Re: nnamdi asomugha to visit
 

Asomugha and Lewis and our secondary has received a nice overhaul.

Re: nnamdi asomugha to visit
 

This guy very easily could revive his career with a coach that knows his strengths and uses him to maximize them. As always it will come down to money.