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this is a discussion within the NFL Community Forum; Originally Posted by saintfan I'm not leading you anywhere you aren't already standing. Remember your very own "you don't know me" comment a few pages back. You're an honest guy. I'm sure I don't have to find it and quote ...

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Old 08-13-2018, 07:05 PM   #1
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Re: NFL preseason sees kneeling, raised fists, during national anthem

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I'm not leading you anywhere you aren't already standing. Remember your very own "you don't know me" comment a few pages back. You're an honest guy. I'm sure I don't have to find it and quote it.

See, you're awfully quick to point your finger at me or at the collective white population yet you disallow it in reverse. You speak of the Civil Rights movement as if you lived it. You did not. You, like me, are forced to rely on opinions, yet you are selective in your review. I have and continue to read all sides. Believe it or not that matters. Unless, of course, you can't stomach the whole picture.

You observe the color of a man's skin and you judge him. What's more is that you justify it because of nothing more than the color of your own skin.

I've had this precise discussion with a few people out here in Oakland. I like them. They like me. Their responses are word for word your responses. They even overuse the word "diaspora" just as you do.

Racism is racism is racism. Maybe your psych friend can help you with that.
Read on. I’ve met you time and time again as well, even down to the overusage and misusage of the words racism and racists. If you’re trying to convince somebody of something, convince yourself.
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:22 PM   #2
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Read on. I’ve met you time and time again as well, even down to the overusage and misusage of the words racism and racists. If you’re trying to convince somebody of something, convince yourself.
I will read on. I enjoy reading about the 60s. It was, to use a word, colorful. I'd share my reading list but I doubt you'd be interested. Let me know if you are and I'll PM ya.

As for misusing racism, there are varying, valid definitions. I know you are well versed. My guess is there's one you use and you likely discount the others. You must, otherwise you'd see you are as guilty as those you charge. Maybe even more.
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:23 PM   #3
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I will read on. I enjoy reading about the 60s. It was, to use a word, colorful. I'd share my reading list but I doubt you'd be interested. Let me know if you are and I'll PM ya.

As for misusing racism, there are varying, valid definitions. I know you are well versed. My guess is there's one you use and you likely discount the others. You must, otherwise you'd see you are as guilty as those you charge. Maybe even more.
Send ‘em through. I’ll read ‘em if I haven’t already.
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:30 PM   #4
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Send ‘em through. I’ll read ‘em if I haven’t already.
Will do, but give me a couple days. I'm moving. When I do, respond in kind. I'd love to know what you're reading.
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:31 PM   #5
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Will do, but give me a couple days. I'm moving. When I do, respond in kind. I'd love to know what you're reading.
Right now I’m reading The Iceman Inheritance and Black Reconstruction, but I’ll send you a list.
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