THE GREATEST FAILURE...

Euphoria · 09-02-2005, 02:04 PM

in a thousand years will have colonies of humans on other planets.

stockman311 · 09-02-2005, 02:28 PM

Why do we need to? Humans have already colonized Uranius Euphoria.

Euphoria · 09-02-2005, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by saintz08

Do you know what that means??? Not everyone can be rich... you have your rich, middle class and your poor its a part of our society.

And if every American reached the upper class scale , we would bring in a lower class labor scale to work .

The Chineese on the railroad .
The Mexicans in the field .

So that this debate could go on and on .........

What is to debate??? there is always going to be poor/lower income people in a capitalist society... doesn't make them less of an American its just a product of our American society and they need help. These people had homes and made an honest living (most) and were overcomed by a levee break.

SaintStoneyMount · 09-02-2005, 03:09 PM

wassup board. Been a long time since I posted. been here lurking like two years since my wife left. Still live in Atlanta and right now due to the storm I do not know the whereabouts of anyone in my family, which up until Katrina resided mainly in the 9th, 7th, 8th wards and also uptown. We had a church on Gibson street if anybody out their knows that area then u know about rev. Dabon at faith temple. But really I came out of hiding because I just read all four pages of your post and just felt compelled, why I don't know because I already have learned in my life that ignorant people refuse to except new ideas so they remain ignorant. Notice I said ignorant and not stupid. There exist some very intelligent people who are ignorant conversely a person can be illiterate and not ignorant and just because a person is an "expert" in one area dosen't mean they can't be ignorant in another. In fact most expert are ignorant in many broad areas because they have spent the majority of their learning in their expertise causing them to be ignorant in most other areas. Now I say all this in response to you Spbk or whatever. You post that you are married to a black woman and your are not a racist. Man let me help you. You are a racist. I am black and I am a racist. That is a survival tatic. If the white man wasn't racist there would not be an America much less a New Orleans. See then there wouldn't have been slavery and we all have to except that without the contributions of the millions of slaves and all that free labor the agricultural economic boom of early america which kicked off this nations greatness and created the superpower we live in today would not have happened. Then the black man tamed the west built the railroads and won all your wars. All thanks to racism and a sadistic system which intentionally created what you see in those"Black people" who in your mind are so different than your whitewashed wife. Oh quick reality your wife aint far removed from the looters you see on TV. Let me explain this to you although you probably won't have the balls to do a basic internet check to see if I'm telling the truth. Hell you probably won't have the nuts to ask you Black wife about it but at least it will be in your heard and one day you might be brave enough to explore this knowledge I'm going to give you. When you explore knowledge you kill ignorance...Try it. But here is your dose. Ask you wife or your one black friend about Willie Lynch and his method to create the 300 year slave. look a little deeper and read the Willie Lynch lettter which describes in detail how to break a horse and how to make a slave and generations of slave that would serve master for a minimum of 300 years. How to create a man who is strong enough to snap your neck with one hand but so mentally weak he rather hurt himself than attack his captors. How to make a woman who will barter with anything to protect that mentally weak man who is her son (you got to kill her man right in front of her and it has to be nasty like tying him to four horses and sending them in four different directions while the misses whatches) That women is now destined to train her daughter to barter for survival. Meaning that if need be to attain some security she will now sleep with and nurture the same man that tourtured her and her people. Look at your wife now and realize I'm telling you her story. I mean if she is a black woman like you say. She through the generations has learned to be a master barterer. The slave woman knew to survive she had to submit to master. Sleep with master. Withstand every disgusting act master would put her through and learn to like it. Wake up dude. I'm a racist, so are you. unfortunately those looters and your wife aren't racist. Racist just means your actions are predicated on the survival of your race. When you are in a knew country surrounded by hostile native and trying to forge a knew nation this means creating slaves. When you are a comfortable citizen of the greatest world superpower but living within gun shot of the sons and daughters of those former slaves it means keeping them clam least they should explode and for some odd reason take revenge for four hundred years of torture (the real holicaust....four years don't top four hundred)...Anyway maybe you will look up old willie lynch. He's right at your fingertips thanks to the World wide web. Hey man keep on posting baby your one of the most entertaining posters on the boards. Geaux Saints......

God bless the people of New Orleans I'm prayng for your family and mines.

I'm going back to lurking now.
See ya

nola_swammi · 09-02-2005, 04:30 PM

SPK are you saying that ONLY black people remained in NO instead of getting out? If so, let me be the the first one to make it clear to you. THERE WERE MANY WHITES THAT REMAINED THERE AS WELL! JUST because the media only show blacks suffering doesn't mean they were the only ones. If you look closer there are whites that live in poverty too. How do you think they were able to get out? HERE'S a clue since it clear you truly do not have one: THEY (poor WHITES) remained. Being married to a black woman means nothing more than just that. That you are married to a black woman and again, you are a racist because if you were not you would have not stated ONLY BLACKS remain and disreguarded the warnings. Not all whites are educated, just as not all blacks are uneducated. There are blacks man and women that not only capable of working and please sit down because this may blow you mind, but THERE ARE BLACKS THAT GO TO COLLEGE AND BLACKS THAT WORK!!! I am a BLACK family man that provide very well for my family. My wife(a black woman) work full time, go to college(ULM) and is a wonderful mother to our children. So don't beleive you married the ONLY good black women. Open you eyes because you can't always go by what the media shows. Its's only part of the story.

nola_swammi · 09-02-2005, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

YOU KNOW AS USUAL MAINLY BLACK PEOPLE WHO LIKE LITTLE CHILDREN CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND THEN RUN AROUND BLAMING MOMMY AND DADDY FOR NOT DOING IT FOR THEM. MAYBE IF THOSE PEOPLE IN NEW ORLEANS WORKED INSTEAD OF SUCKING THE FUNDS OF THE GOVERNMENT THE LEVEES COULD HAVE BEEN STRENGTHENED. THEESE PEOPLE ARE A DIRECT RESULT OF BAD CHOICES BY THEM PROBABLY THEIR PARENTS AND ON AND ON WE GO.

NOW I WILL WAIT TO HEAR THE WORD YOU CAN'T WAIT TO THROW AT ME. I AM A RACIST.

How can you make remarks like that and say I am not a racist?

nola_swammi · 09-02-2005, 05:27 PM

nowwhere did Ihear that Gov. Blanco didn't chose to use her resources because funds were to low to strengthen the levee. If that was the case they should've borrowed money for the levee instead for a team that will know longer exist here anymore (new Orleans Saints0

saintz08 · 09-02-2005, 05:30 PM

It is quite amazing for me to read all of these posts and see the generalizations that are being thrown around. Everyone is blaming someone. The government, the people of the city, the mayor.

How about :

Even Republicans were criticizing Bush and his administration for the sluggish relief effort. "I think it puts into question all of the Homeland Security and Northern Command planning for the last four years, because if we can't respond faster than this to an event we saw coming across the Gulf for days, then why do we think we're prepared to respond to a nuclear or biological attack?" said former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

My original words :

Express you anger over the system failure , so the next time there is a disaster the life they save faster may be your own ......

From the President :

Bush began the day at the White House where he expressed unhappiness with the efforts so far to provide food and water to hurricane victims and to stop looting and lawlessness in New Orleans. "The results are not acceptable," said Bush, who rarely admits failure.

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/arti...31144709990009

spkb25 · 09-02-2005, 07:10 PM

well i appreciate all of your comments and i will look up willie lynch for you. i am never afraid to learn something whether i agree with it or not. nice comment on calling my wife white washed. because she refuses to be a low life that makes her white washed.exactly the division i was looking to find from someone on here. also i commented on here that if you talk to a poor black person and a poor white person you will find the mentality to be the same. they are victims. they live their life in that same way. as usual noone reads past what they want to hear. i said that they were not like that because they were black but instead were like that because they were poor. this is not a race issue meaning that no race is predetermined to act a certain way. they act that way because of what they are taught by who is around them. it is a race issue when you consider the large portion of black people in this country who are still poor. if you look at it proportionally in the races they need help. you can not empower someone or help them by giving to them and asking for nothing in return. that creates in itself lazieness and a feeling of entitlement. you empower people by teaching them that they can earn things in life through hard work. all of us were children and most of us did not for most of our childhoods appreciate what our parents went through to provide what they did for us. we expected it and thought it was their duty. generally you appreciate it after you have to do it yourself. once again people did not read on here that i said not that it was only black people stranded in new orleans. i said mainly. that does not include all. nothing is black and white in life. everything is a gray. there is no absolute. some black people in this country are becoming a permanent under class. they are in a slave state. they are controlled whether they know it or not. a lot of thier so called leaders are helping them to stay exactly where they are. whether it be to line their own pockets or to gather votes. i will not aid that. nola swammi if you know that to be true about yourself then why would you have to tell me because it is obvious you are not who i am speaking about. saint stoney i disagree that we are all racist. you would be better off saying that we are all prejudice. that would be a fair and true statement. you may enjoy that you are a racist but i know i am not. if you feel that way or you do trust me when i tell you my life will not at all change. you will not hurt my feelings. i will move on with my life and enjoy. we can disagree and you can think how you want. without more then one opinion, life would get pretty boring. but i never said nor do i at all believe that all black people are uneducated and lazy. that is ridculous and i would never think that. and saintstoney i have outside of my wife one true friend in life. so in all honesty i have no black friends. i ahve a lot of people i know and hang out with but only one true friend.

nola swammi if you can find where i said that only black people remained in new orleans please post it to me . i know i never said that well unless mainly means the same as all.

nola_swammi · 09-02-2005, 11:27 PM

True, MAINLY does not mean the same as ALL. However, when you place blame on one race and not another, and I quote "YOU KNOW AS USUAL MAINLY BLACK PEOPLE WHO LIKE LITTLE CHILDREN CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND THEN RUN AROUND BLAMING MOMMY AND DADDY FOR NOT DOING IT FOR THEM." is clear you are talking about only ONE race (BLACKS). Or did I miss the negative and racial comment you made about the WHITE race? No one knows the real reason or excuse for those that remained in NO. However, ONE thing IS clear, BOTH BLACKS and WHITES as well as others are in need of help. Therefore, I will continue to pray for ALL victims (BLACK and WHITE) and provide help by donating money to ALL(not just blacks) Because ONLY God can judge. And it's clear that it is not me nor you.

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09-02-2005, 02:51 PM	#53
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by saintz08 Do you know what that means??? Not everyone can be rich... you have your rich, middle class and your poor its a part of our society. And if every American reached the upper class scale , we would bring in a lower class labor scale to work . The Chineese on the railroad . The Mexicans in the field . So that this debate could go on and on ......... What is to debate??? there is always going to be poor/lower income people in a capitalist society... doesn't make them less of an American its just a product of our American society and they need help. These people had homes and made an honest living (most) and were overcomed by a levee break.

09-02-2005, 03:09 PM	#54
SaintStoneyMount 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Stone Mountain, GA Posts: 448	Crazy wassup board. Been a long time since I posted. been here lurking like two years since my wife left. Still live in Atlanta and right now due to the storm I do not know the whereabouts of anyone in my family, which up until Katrina resided mainly in the 9th, 7th, 8th wards and also uptown. We had a church on Gibson street if anybody out their knows that area then u know about rev. Dabon at faith temple. But really I came out of hiding because I just read all four pages of your post and just felt compelled, why I don't know because I already have learned in my life that ignorant people refuse to except new ideas so they remain ignorant. Notice I said ignorant and not stupid. There exist some very intelligent people who are ignorant conversely a person can be illiterate and not ignorant and just because a person is an "expert" in one area dosen't mean they can't be ignorant in another. In fact most expert are ignorant in many broad areas because they have spent the majority of their learning in their expertise causing them to be ignorant in most other areas. Now I say all this in response to you Spbk or whatever. You post that you are married to a black woman and your are not a racist. Man let me help you. You are a racist. I am black and I am a racist. That is a survival tatic. If the white man wasn't racist there would not be an America much less a New Orleans. See then there wouldn't have been slavery and we all have to except that without the contributions of the millions of slaves and all that free labor the agricultural economic boom of early america which kicked off this nations greatness and created the superpower we live in today would not have happened. Then the black man tamed the west built the railroads and won all your wars. All thanks to racism and a sadistic system which intentionally created what you see in those"Black people" who in your mind are so different than your whitewashed wife. Oh quick reality your wife aint far removed from the looters you see on TV. Let me explain this to you although you probably won't have the balls to do a basic internet check to see if I'm telling the truth. Hell you probably won't have the nuts to ask you Black wife about it but at least it will be in your heard and one day you might be brave enough to explore this knowledge I'm going to give you. When you explore knowledge you kill ignorance...Try it. But here is your dose. Ask you wife or your one black friend about Willie Lynch and his method to create the 300 year slave. look a little deeper and read the Willie Lynch lettter which describes in detail how to break a horse and how to make a slave and generations of slave that would serve master for a minimum of 300 years. How to create a man who is strong enough to snap your neck with one hand but so mentally weak he rather hurt himself than attack his captors. How to make a woman who will barter with anything to protect that mentally weak man who is her son (you got to kill her man right in front of her and it has to be nasty like tying him to four horses and sending them in four different directions while the misses whatches) That women is now destined to train her daughter to barter for survival. Meaning that if need be to attain some security she will now sleep with and nurture the same man that tourtured her and her people. Look at your wife now and realize I'm telling you her story. I mean if she is a black woman like you say. She through the generations has learned to be a master barterer. The slave woman knew to survive she had to submit to master. Sleep with master. Withstand every disgusting act master would put her through and learn to like it. Wake up dude. I'm a racist, so are you. unfortunately those looters and your wife aren't racist. Racist just means your actions are predicated on the survival of your race. When you are in a knew country surrounded by hostile native and trying to forge a knew nation this means creating slaves. When you are a comfortable citizen of the greatest world superpower but living within gun shot of the sons and daughters of those former slaves it means keeping them clam least they should explode and for some odd reason take revenge for four hundred years of torture (the real holicaust....four years don't top four hundred)...Anyway maybe you will look up old willie lynch. He's right at your fingertips thanks to the World wide web. Hey man keep on posting baby your one of the most entertaining posters on the boards. Geaux Saints...... God bless the people of New Orleans I'm prayng for your family and mines. I'm going back to lurking now. See ya
	SaintStoneyMountLurksNoMore \"Bless U Boyz\" \"Geaux Saints\" \"Geaux Tigers\"

09-02-2005, 04:30 PM	#55
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	RE: Crazy SPK are you saying that ONLY black people remained in NO instead of getting out? If so, let me be the the first one to make it clear to you. THERE WERE MANY WHITES THAT REMAINED THERE AS WELL! JUST because the media only show blacks suffering doesn't mean they were the only ones. If you look closer there are whites that live in poverty too. How do you think they were able to get out? HERE'S a clue since it clear you truly do not have one: THEY (poor WHITES) remained. Being married to a black woman means nothing more than just that. That you are married to a black woman and again, you are a racist because if you were not you would have not stated ONLY BLACKS remain and disreguarded the warnings. Not all whites are educated, just as not all blacks are uneducated. There are blacks man and women that not only capable of working and please sit down because this may blow you mind, but THERE ARE BLACKS THAT GO TO COLLEGE AND BLACKS THAT WORK!!! I am a BLACK family man that provide very well for my family. My wife(a black woman) work full time, go to college(ULM) and is a wonderful mother to our children. So don't beleive you married the ONLY good black women. Open you eyes because you can't always go by what the media shows. Its's only part of the story.

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09-02-2005, 04:37 PM	#56
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Originally Posted by spkb25 YOU KNOW AS USUAL MAINLY BLACK PEOPLE WHO LIKE LITTLE CHILDREN CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND THEN RUN AROUND BLAMING MOMMY AND DADDY FOR NOT DOING IT FOR THEM. MAYBE IF THOSE PEOPLE IN NEW ORLEANS WORKED INSTEAD OF SUCKING THE FUNDS OF THE GOVERNMENT THE LEVEES COULD HAVE BEEN STRENGTHENED. THEESE PEOPLE ARE A DIRECT RESULT OF BAD CHOICES BY THEM PROBABLY THEIR PARENTS AND ON AND ON WE GO. NOW I WILL WAIT TO HEAR THE WORD YOU CAN'T WAIT TO THROW AT ME. I AM A RACIST. How can you make remarks like that and say I am not a racist?

09-02-2005, 05:27 PM	#57
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	nowwhere did Ihear that Gov. Blanco didn't chose to use her resources because funds were to low to strengthen the levee. If that was the case they should've borrowed money for the levee instead for a team that will know longer exist here anymore (new Orleans Saints0

09-02-2005, 05:30 PM	#58
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	It is quite amazing for me to read all of these posts and see the generalizations that are being thrown around. Everyone is blaming someone. The government, the people of the city, the mayor. How about : Even Republicans were criticizing Bush and his administration for the sluggish relief effort. "I think it puts into question all of the Homeland Security and Northern Command planning for the last four years, because if we can't respond faster than this to an event we saw coming across the Gulf for days, then why do we think we're prepared to respond to a nuclear or biological attack?" said former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. My original words : Express you anger over the system failure , so the next time there is a disaster the life they save faster may be your own ...... From the President : Bush began the day at the White House where he expressed unhappiness with the efforts so far to provide food and water to hurricane victims and to stop looting and lawlessness in New Orleans. "The results are not acceptable," said Bush, who rarely admits failure. http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/arti...31144709990009
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09-02-2005, 07:10 PM	#59
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	well i appreciate all of your comments and i will look up willie lynch for you. i am never afraid to learn something whether i agree with it or not. nice comment on calling my wife white washed. because she refuses to be a low life that makes her white washed.exactly the division i was looking to find from someone on here. also i commented on here that if you talk to a poor black person and a poor white person you will find the mentality to be the same. they are victims. they live their life in that same way. as usual noone reads past what they want to hear. i said that they were not like that because they were black but instead were like that because they were poor. this is not a race issue meaning that no race is predetermined to act a certain way. they act that way because of what they are taught by who is around them. it is a race issue when you consider the large portion of black people in this country who are still poor. if you look at it proportionally in the races they need help. you can not empower someone or help them by giving to them and asking for nothing in return. that creates in itself lazieness and a feeling of entitlement. you empower people by teaching them that they can earn things in life through hard work. all of us were children and most of us did not for most of our childhoods appreciate what our parents went through to provide what they did for us. we expected it and thought it was their duty. generally you appreciate it after you have to do it yourself. once again people did not read on here that i said not that it was only black people stranded in new orleans. i said mainly. that does not include all. nothing is black and white in life. everything is a gray. there is no absolute. some black people in this country are becoming a permanent under class. they are in a slave state. they are controlled whether they know it or not. a lot of thier so called leaders are helping them to stay exactly where they are. whether it be to line their own pockets or to gather votes. i will not aid that. nola swammi if you know that to be true about yourself then why would you have to tell me because it is obvious you are not who i am speaking about. saint stoney i disagree that we are all racist. you would be better off saying that we are all prejudice. that would be a fair and true statement. you may enjoy that you are a racist but i know i am not. if you feel that way or you do trust me when i tell you my life will not at all change. you will not hurt my feelings. i will move on with my life and enjoy. we can disagree and you can think how you want. without more then one opinion, life would get pretty boring. but i never said nor do i at all believe that all black people are uneducated and lazy. that is ridculous and i would never think that. and saintstoney i have outside of my wife one true friend in life. so in all honesty i have no black friends. i ahve a lot of people i know and hang out with but only one true friend. nola swammi if you can find where i said that only black people remained in new orleans please post it to me . i know i never said that well unless mainly means the same as all.
	Your team stinks

09-02-2005, 11:27 PM	#60
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	True, MAINLY does not mean the same as ALL. However, when you place blame on one race and not another, and I quote "YOU KNOW AS USUAL MAINLY BLACK PEOPLE WHO LIKE LITTLE CHILDREN CAN'T TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES AND THEN RUN AROUND BLAMING MOMMY AND DADDY FOR NOT DOING IT FOR THEM." is clear you are talking about only ONE race (BLACKS). Or did I miss the negative and racial comment you made about the WHITE race? No one knows the real reason or excuse for those that remained in NO. However, ONE thing IS clear, BOTH BLACKS and WHITES as well as others are in need of help. Therefore, I will continue to pray for ALL victims (BLACK and WHITE) and provide help by donating money to ALL(not just blacks) Because ONLY God can judge. And it's clear that it is not me nor you.