THE GREATEST FAILURE...

spkb25 · 09-03-2005, 12:07 AM

you are absolutly right swammi. and i also have no problem taking in anyone regardless of race. none at all. i respect your wife very much. me and my wife dont have any children so for your wife to be able to balance everything makes her very wonderful. you are a very lucky man. i am almost jealous of you. not many woman can do that. my mother was a stay at home mom. she had 9 children. only my pops worked. but my mom was on her knees everyday cleaning oour kitchen and house. crazy that i remember that. swammi i understand your anger towards me but man it isnt that i think or want black people to be kept in the situation they are. i want the exact opposite. of course i am not talking about all or most black people. i hope you can understand thast. it is a certain portion of your race. i am not an idiot nor am i dumb to the truth. the fact is that most black people are earning a living just like i am. the same as white people. i know that swammi. there isnt probably a man i am more impresssed by then martin luther king. he impresses so much. not for what he accomplished which is greeat but his intelligense was so impresssive. if you havent read his letter from birmingham jail you should. it is very inspiring. the man should be an inspiration to us all. him and frederick douglas are two people i want to know a lot more about. theese are great men. they are better then i think i could ever be. they are men that should be very celebrated by all of us. just like thomas jefferson and james madison. they are ggreat men. if my statements earlier were dumb or without explanation i apologize. i do not and would never ever think of grouping black people as a whole. that would make me a complete idiot. i do not think this is a problem facing only black people. of course not swammi. but to lie about the truth would make me no better then the ones that rob some black people of everything. there is website for in my opinion a very good org trying to help young black youth and it is www.bondinfo.org. i hope you undertsand who i am a little better now

frankeefrank · 09-03-2005, 01:52 AM

bashing will not be tolerated

Euphoria · 09-03-2005, 09:46 AM

Those officials from the Mayor up were elected by the people to represent and take care of the people and they failed. They should be held responsible...

spkb25 · 09-03-2005, 10:48 AM

everyone is suppose to take care of themselves. i understand we disagree and i can excpet that. i wont post on here again to argue my view. hey frankeefrank i am absolutely impressed by what i can only call pure genius. you probably belive you invented the question mark. the kind of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. you are a man of few words but when you told me to leave i understood who you were. so there should be only one voice in this country and it should frankeefrank. freedom of speech exists only if you agree with frankeefrank. if you don't like it leave. right. yep that is what the government is here for to run our entire lives. uhuh. exactly why thomas jefferson said the best government is the government that governs least. but hey they are suppose to take care of us and direct our entire lives. and still last time i checked frankeefrank THE GOVERNMENT SAID EVACUATE. but hey its their fault. you impress me frankeefrank. do you still accuse chestnuts of beng lazy.

Euphoria · 09-03-2005, 11:37 AM

There is no question that people misjudged or made a grave mistake at staying behind for whatever reason... not all these people were poor, some owned homes some owned business now they are left with NOTHING. I take some assume to just leave them on the side of the Interstate or leave them at the dome to all die.

The ones told to get to the dome or Civic Center once there were there the mayor didn't get help in there or security for them not the govenor but I guess the ones who listen and obeyed we should let them die to huh...

BoudinSandwich · 09-03-2005, 11:48 AM

I don't know if this has been touched yet, but there was a proposal to build New Orleans elsewhere.

Elsewhere? Where do these people reccommend New Orleans be built? Its not like there's land that has not been discovered in Louisiana yet. Everything thats there is owned. You can't just build New Orleans over something thats already there.

New Orleans was a huge city BECAUSE of the area it was built in. Its a port city. You can not expect to "rebuild New Orleans" on some random strip of land. It will never be as successful as the port city. Besides, like I said, its not like there's unconquered territory in this state.

I just don't see their logic in this.

SaintStoneyMount · 09-03-2005, 12:05 PM

hey man look it up for you not for me sp. I already know. Oh and whitewashed doesn't mean speaking well, writing well ormaking money. It means that a person trys to emerse himself in a cultural vacuum to seperate themselves from their own race in an attempt to assimilate the white race. But that's a little deep so forget it. I apologize for using the term to describe your wife because I really don't know her. For that matter I really don't know you and you might be one of those fun people who just like to throw out ideas and debate. For all I know you and your wife might be blacker than me. lol just clowning around feels good to have a little fun with all this tradgedy going on. Bottom line it rains on the juast and the unjust. Regardless of race. Money helps but doesn't heal. And if we are going to have a New Orleans in the future we all got to pull together and make it happen.

frankeefrank · 09-03-2005, 12:47 PM

SPKB
We are the government.
Each and every one of us.
To me that means we all have control of the Federal Gov.
To me that means I can demand MY government to help.
And when I feel they didn't respond in a "suitable manner"
I can choose to "call them out" on it.
Sorry, I didn't know Everyone has access to television and internet where you live...
If you can tell me every single soul in the New Orleans area was warned to evacuate then i will say i am wrong.

And do us all a favor,
Don't quote a Canadian in your argument against Federal Government.

saintz08 · 09-03-2005, 01:04 PM

I don't know if this has been touched yet, but there was a proposal to build New Orleans elsewhere.

Elsewhere? Where do these people reccommend New Orleans be built? Its not like there's land that has not been discovered in Louisiana yet. Everything thats there is owned. You can't just build New Orleans over something thats already there.

New Orleans was a huge city BECAUSE of the area it was built in. Its a port city. You can not expect to "rebuild New Orleans" on some random strip of land. It will never be as successful as the port city. Besides, like I said, its not like there's unconquered territory in this state.

I just don't see their logic in this.

They want to raise the land level .

The old San Francisco scenario - Rumor has it , that certain areas were raised and rebuilt on .

Take a Parish with 99% devastation , flat pack the buildings and debris add a layer or 2 of crusher base and top it off with some regular soil . 20 feet higher in little or no time .

BoudinSandwich · 09-03-2005, 02:31 PM

How about build a little city again, but spend the majority of the money on the former citizens of New Orleans. Give them money to rebuild and move on. Even if they do rebuild the city, its going to take an extremely long time. These people need somewhere to stay in the meantime and, in fact, are probably just as well off living in a different location.

Thats my opinion anyways. Give the money to the people so they can move on. Besides, no matter how hard they try, they'll never beable to rebuild "N'AWLINS."

09-03-2005, 12:07 AM	#61
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	you are absolutly right swammi. and i also have no problem taking in anyone regardless of race. none at all. i respect your wife very much. me and my wife dont have any children so for your wife to be able to balance everything makes her very wonderful. you are a very lucky man. i am almost jealous of you. not many woman can do that. my mother was a stay at home mom. she had 9 children. only my pops worked. but my mom was on her knees everyday cleaning oour kitchen and house. crazy that i remember that. swammi i understand your anger towards me but man it isnt that i think or want black people to be kept in the situation they are. i want the exact opposite. of course i am not talking about all or most black people. i hope you can understand thast. it is a certain portion of your race. i am not an idiot nor am i dumb to the truth. the fact is that most black people are earning a living just like i am. the same as white people. i know that swammi. there isnt probably a man i am more impresssed by then martin luther king. he impresses so much. not for what he accomplished which is greeat but his intelligense was so impresssive. if you havent read his letter from birmingham jail you should. it is very inspiring. the man should be an inspiration to us all. him and frederick douglas are two people i want to know a lot more about. theese are great men. they are better then i think i could ever be. they are men that should be very celebrated by all of us. just like thomas jefferson and james madison. they are ggreat men. if my statements earlier were dumb or without explanation i apologize. i do not and would never ever think of grouping black people as a whole. that would make me a complete idiot. i do not think this is a problem facing only black people. of course not swammi. but to lie about the truth would make me no better then the ones that rob some black people of everything. there is website for in my opinion a very good org trying to help young black youth and it is www.bondinfo.org. i hope you undertsand who i am a little better now
	Your team stinks

09-03-2005, 01:52 AM	#62
frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	bashing will not be tolerated
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09-03-2005, 10:48 AM	#64
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	everyone is suppose to take care of themselves. i understand we disagree and i can excpet that. i wont post on here again to argue my view. hey frankeefrank i am absolutely impressed by what i can only call pure genius. you probably belive you invented the question mark. the kind of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. you are a man of few words but when you told me to leave i understood who you were. so there should be only one voice in this country and it should frankeefrank. freedom of speech exists only if you agree with frankeefrank. if you don't like it leave. right. yep that is what the government is here for to run our entire lives. uhuh. exactly why thomas jefferson said the best government is the government that governs least. but hey they are suppose to take care of us and direct our entire lives. and still last time i checked frankeefrank THE GOVERNMENT SAID EVACUATE. but hey its their fault. you impress me frankeefrank. do you still accuse chestnuts of beng lazy.
	Your team stinks

09-03-2005, 11:48 AM	#66
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	I don't know if this has been touched yet, but there was a proposal to build New Orleans elsewhere. Elsewhere? Where do these people reccommend New Orleans be built? Its not like there's land that has not been discovered in Louisiana yet. Everything thats there is owned. You can't just build New Orleans over something thats already there. New Orleans was a huge city BECAUSE of the area it was built in. Its a port city. You can not expect to "rebuild New Orleans" on some random strip of land. It will never be as successful as the port city. Besides, like I said, its not like there's unconquered territory in this state. I just don't see their logic in this.
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09-03-2005, 12:05 PM	#67
SaintStoneyMount 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Stone Mountain, GA Posts: 448	Thank you hey man look it up for you not for me sp. I already know. Oh and whitewashed doesn't mean speaking well, writing well ormaking money. It means that a person trys to emerse himself in a cultural vacuum to seperate themselves from their own race in an attempt to assimilate the white race. But that's a little deep so forget it. I apologize for using the term to describe your wife because I really don't know her. For that matter I really don't know you and you might be one of those fun people who just like to throw out ideas and debate. For all I know you and your wife might be blacker than me. lol just clowning around feels good to have a little fun with all this tradgedy going on. Bottom line it rains on the juast and the unjust. Regardless of race. Money helps but doesn't heal. And if we are going to have a New Orleans in the future we all got to pull together and make it happen.

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09-03-2005, 09:46 AM	#63
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Those officials from the Mayor up were elected by the people to represent and take care of the people and they failed. They should be held responsible...

09-03-2005, 11:37 AM	#65
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	There is no question that people misjudged or made a grave mistake at staying behind for whatever reason... not all these people were poor, some owned homes some owned business now they are left with NOTHING. I take some assume to just leave them on the side of the Interstate or leave them at the dome to all die. The ones told to get to the dome or Civic Center once there were there the mayor didn't get help in there or security for them not the govenor but I guess the ones who listen and obeyed we should let them die to huh...

09-03-2005, 12:47 PM	#68
frankeefrank 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 775	RE: Thank you SPKB We are the government. Each and every one of us. To me that means we all have control of the Federal Gov. To me that means I can demand MY government to help. And when I feel they didn't respond in a "suitable manner" I can choose to "call them out" on it. Sorry, I didn't know Everyone has access to television and internet where you live... If you can tell me every single soul in the New Orleans area was warned to evacuate then i will say i am wrong. And do us all a favor, Don't quote a Canadian in your argument against Federal Government.
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09-03-2005, 01:04 PM	#69
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	RE: Thank you I don't know if this has been touched yet, but there was a proposal to build New Orleans elsewhere. Elsewhere? Where do these people reccommend New Orleans be built? Its not like there's land that has not been discovered in Louisiana yet. Everything thats there is owned. You can't just build New Orleans over something thats already there. New Orleans was a huge city BECAUSE of the area it was built in. Its a port city. You can not expect to "rebuild New Orleans" on some random strip of land. It will never be as successful as the port city. Besides, like I said, its not like there's unconquered territory in this state. I just don't see their logic in this. They want to raise the land level . The old San Francisco scenario - Rumor has it , that certain areas were raised and rebuilt on . Take a Parish with 99% devastation , flat pack the buildings and debris add a layer or 2 of crusher base and top it off with some regular soil . 20 feet higher in little or no time .
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09-03-2005, 02:31 PM	#70
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	RE: Thank you How about build a little city again, but spend the majority of the money on the former citizens of New Orleans. Give them money to rebuild and move on. Even if they do rebuild the city, its going to take an extremely long time. These people need somewhere to stay in the meantime and, in fact, are probably just as well off living in a different location. Thats my opinion anyways. Give the money to the people so they can move on. Besides, no matter how hard they try, they'll never beable to rebuild "N'AWLINS."