2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints

gosaints1 · 04-04-2021, 06:03 PM

Sleight of hand wrt Trask. FO is trying to move other team’s, I’m not buying the Saints are interested. IF there are rumors about a specific player right now, there is a reason for those rumors to be made public. And it’s not bc the Saints are interested. CSP generally keeps a fairly secure war-room wrt draft intentions.

jeanpierre · 04-04-2021, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

Sleight of hand wrt Trask. FO is trying to move other team’s, I’m not buying the Saints are interested. IF there are rumors about a specific player right now, there is a reason for those rumors to be made public. And it’s not bc the Saints are interested. CSP generally keeps a fairly secure war-room wrt draft intentions.

Sean is all about deception - he is House Loki...

ChrisXVI · 04-04-2021, 06:39 PM

Yeah I don’t buy the Trask rumors at all. If anything, Payton’s trying to get a team to trade back into the first round for him and push a non-QB further down the board. Maybe the Eagles, Broncos or Panthers could trade back into the first round for Trask if they don’t get QB’s earlier.

jeanpierre · 04-04-2021, 07:21 PM

jeanpierre · 04-04-2021, 07:22 PM

Trask in Round 2 makes sense...

K Major · 04-04-2021, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Trask in Round 2 makes sense...

Yep yep.

But dammit, I still want Jabrill Cox in the 2nd (assuming he drops)

. Demario Davis is a beast but one year older & not a whole lot behind him. Baun ... still a question mark.

IMO the meat and potatoes of the draft are rounds 2-4. Winfield Jr, Diggs, Hurts, Dobbins, Claypool & our very own Adam Trautman (3rd rd) taken on Day 2, 3 had impact for their respective teams as rookies.

Day 2 (see Michael Thomas) Saints draft selection could be just as important as that #28 pick.

gosaints1 · 04-04-2021, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Trask in Round 2 makes sense...

A QB this year so early is a waste, imho. Roll with Winston or Hill..., or both at the same time if need. Give both a chance to earn, and own, the starting gig. I just don’t see the value in a QB so soon, when we have Hill and Winston on the roster, and neither have been handed the keys to the team yet.

Bottom line, let’s see what they can do. Our first three rounds, including comp picks, need to be immediate assets, playing assets also. Not projects.

ChrisXVI · 04-04-2021, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

A QB this year so early is a waste, imho. Roll with Winston or Hill..., or both at the same time if need. Give both a chance to earn, and own, the starting gig. I just don’t see the value in a QB so soon, when we have Hill and Winston on the roster, and neither have been handed the keys to the team yet.

Bottom line, let’s see what they can do. Our first three rounds, including comp picks, need to be immediate assets, playing assets also. Not projects.

Agreed 100%.

ChrisXVI · 04-04-2021, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Yep yep.

But dammit, I still want Jabrill Cox in the 2nd (assuming he drops) . Demario Davis is a beast but one year older & not a whole lot behind him. Baun ... still a question mark.

IMO the meat and potatoes of the draft are rounds 2-4. Winfield Jr, Diggs, Hurts, Dobbins, Claypool & our very own Adam Trautman (3rd rd) taken on Day 2, 3 had impact for their respective teams as rookies.

Day 2 (see Michael Thomas) Saints draft selection could be just as important as that #28 pick.

We’re going to trade up in the second round. With all the extra picks we’re getting next year we aren’t going to care one bit about trading them away. I think we’ll go Zaven Collins in the first and then trade up in the second for a CB.

lee909 · 04-04-2021, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by gosaints1

A QB this year so early is a waste, imho. Roll with Winston or Hill..., or both at the same time if need. Give both a chance to earn, and own, the starting gig. I just don’t see the value in a QB so soon, when we have Hill and Winston on the roster, and neither have been handed the keys to the team yet.

Bottom line, let’s see what they can do. Our first three rounds, including comp picks, need to be immediate assets, playing assets also. Not projects.

Maybe but if you Draft Trask in the 2nd round this year and he shows he can do a job even just to the same level as Winston or Hill then you save a fortune in 2022 with his deal being not much above 1ml a year. If the front office think he is a future starter i would argue it makes plenty of sense

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by gosaints1 Sleight of hand wrt Trask. FO is trying to move other team’s, I’m not buying the Saints are interested. IF there are rumors about a specific player right now, there is a reason for those rumors to be made public. And it’s not bc the Saints are interested. CSP generally keeps a fairly secure war-room wrt draft intentions. Sean is all about deception - he is House Loki...

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Yeah I don’t buy the Trask rumors at all. If anything, Payton’s trying to get a team to trade back into the first round for him and push a non-QB further down the board. Maybe the Eagles, Broncos or Panthers could trade back into the first round for Trask if they don’t get QB’s earlier.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Trask in Round 2 makes sense... Yep yep. But dammit, I still want Jabrill Cox in the 2nd (assuming he drops) . Demario Davis is a beast but one year older & not a whole lot behind him. Baun ... still a question mark. IMO the meat and potatoes of the draft are rounds 2-4. Winfield Jr, Diggs, Hurts, Dobbins, Claypool & our very own Adam Trautman (3rd rd) taken on Day 2, 3 had impact for their respective teams as rookies. Day 2 (see Michael Thomas) Saints draft selection could be just as important as that #28 pick.

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gosaints1 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 576	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Trask in Round 2 makes sense... A QB this year so early is a waste, imho. Roll with Winston or Hill..., or both at the same time if need. Give both a chance to earn, and own, the starting gig. I just don’t see the value in a QB so soon, when we have Hill and Winston on the roster, and neither have been handed the keys to the team yet. Bottom line, let’s see what they can do. Our first three rounds, including comp picks, need to be immediate assets, playing assets also. Not projects. ChrisXVI likes this.
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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by gosaints1 A QB this year so early is a waste, imho. Roll with Winston or Hill..., or both at the same time if need. Give both a chance to earn, and own, the starting gig. I just don’t see the value in a QB so soon, when we have Hill and Winston on the roster, and neither have been handed the keys to the team yet. Bottom line, let’s see what they can do. Our first three rounds, including comp picks, need to be immediate assets, playing assets also. Not projects. Agreed 100%.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by K Major Yep yep. But dammit, I still want Jabrill Cox in the 2nd (assuming he drops) . Demario Davis is a beast but one year older & not a whole lot behind him. Baun ... still a question mark. IMO the meat and potatoes of the draft are rounds 2-4. Winfield Jr, Diggs, Hurts, Dobbins, Claypool & our very own Adam Trautman (3rd rd) taken on Day 2, 3 had impact for their respective teams as rookies. Day 2 (see Michael Thomas) Saints draft selection could be just as important as that #28 pick. We’re going to trade up in the second round. With all the extra picks we’re getting next year we aren’t going to care one bit about trading them away. I think we’ll go Zaven Collins in the first and then trade up in the second for a CB.

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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,829 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2021 NFL Draft: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by gosaints1 A QB this year so early is a waste, imho. Roll with Winston or Hill..., or both at the same time if need. Give both a chance to earn, and own, the starting gig. I just don’t see the value in a QB so soon, when we have Hill and Winston on the roster, and neither have been handed the keys to the team yet. Bottom line, let’s see what they can do. Our first three rounds, including comp picks, need to be immediate assets, playing assets also. Not projects. Maybe but if you Draft Trask in the 2nd round this year and he shows he can do a job even just to the same level as Winston or Hill then you save a fortune in 2022 with his deal being not much above 1ml a year. If the front office think he is a future starter i would argue it makes plenty of sense gosaints1 likes this.