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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Oh, come on. I have no doubt Brees would be doing far, far better with these same WR's and TE's. I do. With the weapons and their performance that Simeon had the last two games and ...

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Old 11-16-2021, 02:00 PM   #1
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Re: Trevor Siemian

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Oh, come on. I have no doubt Brees would be doing far, far better with these same WR's and TE's.
I do. With the weapons and their performance that Simeon had the last two games and the Kicking/Penalties/Defensive breakdowns the team loses those 2 games with Brees same way they did with Simeon.

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Winston was also leading the league in TD per pass rate when he got injured at 8.7% while Siemian is currently at 4.8%. Brady is second to Winston thus far at 7.2%.
Why are you bringing up Winston? He’s hurt in case you haven’t heard i.e. “Water under the bridge”. You know who most of Winston’s completions were to? Kamara. You know who Simeon didn’t have last game? Kamara. No impact their either in your mind I guess 🙄. That being said, I’d rather have winston as QB as well. The point was about inserting Taysom Hill as QB and if he would make a difference.

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Old 11-16-2021, 04:37 PM   #2
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I do. With the weapons and their performance that Simeon had the last two games and the Kicking/Penalties/Defensive breakdowns the team loses those 2 games with Brees same way they did with Simeon.



Why are you bringing up Winston? He’s hurt in case you haven’t heard i.e. “Water under the bridge”. You know who most of Winston’s completions were to? Kamara. You know who Simeon didn’t have last game? Kamara. No impact their either in your mind I guess 🙄. That being said, I’d rather have winston as QB as well. The point was about inserting Taysom Hill as QB and if he would make a difference.
Wrong! Winston had 14 TD passes when he got injured. Most of them were NOT to Kamara. Armah caught one Winston TD. Harris caught two Winston TD's. Juwan Johnson caught three Winston TD's. Hogan caught one Winston TD. Callaway caught three Winston TD's.

As for having the same outcome the last two games with Brees as QB instead of Siemian ... Oh. My. God. You seriously do not have a clue.

What you are implying is that Siemian is just as good a QB as was Brees. What the hell are you smoking, Boston?
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Old 11-16-2021, 05:15 PM   #3
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Wrong! Winston had 14 TD passes when he got injured. Most of them were NOT to Kamara. Armah caught one Winston TD. Harris caught two Winston TD's. Juwan Johnson caught three Winston TD's. Hogan caught one Winston TD. Callaway caught three Winston TD's.

As for having the same outcome the last two games with Brees as QB instead of Siemian ... Oh. My. God. You seriously do not have a clue.

What you are implying is that Siemian is just as good a QB as was Brees. What the hell are you smoking, Boston?
I said most of his completions went to...not most of his TDs went to, I am not wrong. But, thanks for putting your foot in your mouth. The rest of what you said is BS as well. My point, which I have said and will repeat
is, I HAVE DOUBTS PUTTING HILL IN WOULD RESULT IN IMPROVEMENT OVER SIMEON.

As for Brees vs Simeon, judging from the way Drew threw the ball in his last year, his health the last two, his lack of mobility with how the OL has played coupled with the poor play of WRs and TE; I believe he would be hurt now the same way he was in his past two years and the way Winston was this year. Teams would have clamped down on short passes again, locked on Kamara and forced receivers to make plays. They have not done so. The one aspect that has worked somewhat for WRs so far this year has been deep routs because Winston, Hill, and Simeon have stronger arms than Brees at this point. If you want to twist that into me saying Simeon is a better QB than Brees was than good luck. I guess that’s how your mind works.

Why don’t you maybe smoke something and chill out and stop putting words in my mouth as you have in the past
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I said most of his completions went to...not most of his TDs went to, I am not wrong. But, thanks for putting your foot in your mouth. The rest of what you said is BS as well. My point, which I have said and will repeat
is, I HAVE DOUBTS PUTTING HILL IN WOULD RESULT IN IMPROVEMENT OVER SIMEON.

As for Brees vs Simeon, judging from the way Drew threw the ball in his last year, his health the last two, his lack of mobility with how the OL has played coupled with the poor play of WRs and TE. I believe he would be hurt now the same way he was in his past two years and the way Winston was this year. Teams would have clamped down on short passes again, locked on Kamara and forced receivers to make plays. They have not done so. The one aspect that has worked somewhat for WRs so far this year has been deep routs because Winston, Hill, and Simeon have stronger arms than Brees at this point. If you want to twist that into me saying Simeon is a better QB than Brees was than good luck. I guess that’s how your mind works.

Why didn’t you maybe smoke something and chill out and stop putting words in mouth as you have in the past
Okay, Winston had 95 completions before he was injured. So you are saying that Kamara had at least 48 of those, right? That would be MOST. Kamara only had 28 receptions through the first seven games. He had one game (Giants) where he wasn't even targeted by Winston a single time.

And no, I don't believe you are stupid enough to declare Siemian is better than Brees at any point of Brees' career. And I hope you aren't stupid enough to claim Siemian is as good as Brees was at any point of his career.

And you mentioned lack of mobility. Brees at his oldest and slowest was more pocket aware and able to avoid trouble than Siemian has been throughout his career. I honestly don't get why you are so enamored with Siemian. He's no more than an somewhat adequate short term back-up.

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Okay, Winston had 95 completions before he was injured. So you are saying that Kamara had at least 48 of those, right? That would be MOST. Kamara only had 28 receptions through the first seven games. He had one game (Giants) where he wasn't even targeted by Winston a single time.

And no, I don't believe you are stupid enough to declare Siemian is better than Brees at any point of Brees' career. And I hope you aren't stupid enough to claim Siemian is as good as Brees was at any point of his career.

And you mentioned lack of mobility. Brees at his oldest and slowest was more pocket aware and able to avoid trouble than Siemian has been throughout his career. I honestly don't get why you are so enamored with Siemian. He's no more than an somewhat adequate short term back-up.
Why don’t you quit being an ass and address my point instead of double speaking? The point I bolded for you! Where do I indicate any form of high praise for Simeon? How did I indicate I was enamored with him? Hint, I didn’t. You can disagree with my point and say Hill would be a better choice if you want and I’ll respect that. But kiss my ass when you put words in my mouth and misrepresent what I say.
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Why don’t you quit being an ass and address my point instead of double speaking? The point I bolded for you! Where do I indicate any form of high praise for Simeon? How did I indicate I was enamored with him? Hint, I didn’t. You can disagree with my point and say Hill would be a better choice if you want and I’ll respect that. But kiss my ass when you put words in my mouth and misrepresent what I say.
You said what you said. Twist it as you want after the fact. As to your bolded (by that I assume you meant capitalized) text, it's fine that you have doubts that Hill would be an improvement over Siemian. Then again, you also doubted Brees would be an improvement over Siemian. That your prerogative, of course.

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You said what you said. Twist it as you want after the fact. As to your bolded (by that I assume you meant capitalized) text, it's fine that you have doubts that Hill would be an improvement over Siemian. Then again, you also doubted Brees would be an improvement over Siemian. That your prerogative, of course.

The sick thing is you have accused me of being argumentative. You are one of the least self-aware people I’ve ever encountered online. Please tell me you are going on another cruise soon.
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Okay, Winston had 95 completions before he was injured. So you are saying that Kamara had at least 48 of those, right? That would be MOST.
This is why you're a .

You deliberately missed the point and started an argument about who can do math?

Good job. Another thread...and you're in it fighting with someone just like all the others.

You're not on NFL Radio. You're not an analyst. You're just a jerk on the internet. A real .
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This is why you're a .

You deliberately missed the point and started an argument about who can do math?

Good job. Another thread...and you're in it fighting with someone just like all the others.

You're not on NFL Radio. You're not an analyst. You're just a jerk on the internet. A real .
I love you, too!
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