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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Winston has been playing far greater than decent. I understand that you have some sort of hatred for Winston. Don't get it, but understand you have it. The TEAM has been playing far better than decent. ...

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Old 11-03-2021, 06:07 PM   #71
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Re: Trevor Siemian

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Winston has been playing far greater than decent. I understand that you have some sort of hatred for Winston. Don't get it, but understand you have it.
The TEAM has been playing far better than decent. I don't know about ya'll but watching 2 or 3 out of 15 3rd down conversion attemps succeed is poor football to me. Watching Jameis struggle trying to play - especially while pulling for the guy - has been less than fun. I'm glad that he's only thrown a few interceptions but Winston owning the 32nd place 59 % pass completion is a bummer to watch. Only Zach Wilson with NYJ is worse. Every QB but one has a better passing completion rate. Where is the HATE in that statement? Our great defense and running game have won our games this year. AG's positive attitude about the team is sometimes fun but mostly blinding. Honest criticism is not hate. You cannot find one hateful thing I have written about Winston. If we met and I kicked your a$$ people might think I didn't like you, or that it was self-defense but not necessarily that I HATE you. Of course, we haven't met and I don't feel like doing that nor do I hate you. But YOU actually do attack me and call me a Hater and verbally abuse me - at least recently. Does that make you feel good? I came on this site to meet people with similar interests and discuss the saints. I've been negative about Coach Payton's play calling at times. I don't HATE the guy. I've criticized Dennis Allen. I don't HATE the guy. Winston's play is hard to watch a lot of the time. I DON'T HATE THE GUY. What is it in your heart that makes you enjoy attacking someone's character? Maybe you need to consider your own character. People don't often rub me the wrong way. Your ignorance and self-righteousness do. I can take a hit with the best of them but it's time you stop saying that I hate Winston or anyone else.
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Old 11-03-2021, 06:12 PM   #72
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The TEAM has been playing far better than decent. I don't know about ya'll but watching 2 or 3 out of 15 3rd down conversion attemps succeed is poor football to me. Watching Jameis struggle trying to play - especially while pulling for the guy - has been less than fun. I'm glad that he's only thrown a few interceptions but Winston owning the 32nd place 59 % pass completion is a bummer to watch. Only Zach Wilson with NYJ is worse. Every QB but one has a better passing completion rate. Where is the HATE in that statement? Our great defense and running game have won our games this year. AG's positive attitude about the team is sometimes fun but mostly blinding. Honest criticism is not hate. You cannot find one hateful thing I have written about Winston. If we met and I kicked your a$$ people might think I didn't like you, or that it was self-defense but not necessarily that I HATE you. Of course, we haven't met and I don't feel like doing that nor do I hate you. But YOU actually do attack me and call me a Hater and verbally abuse me - at least recently. Does that make you feel good? I came on this site to meet people with similar interests and discuss the saints. I've been negative about Coach Payton's play calling at times. I don't HATE the guy. I've criticized Dennis Allen. I don't HATE the guy. Winston's play is hard to watch a lot of the time. I DON'T HATE THE GUY. What is it in your heart that makes you enjoy attacking someone's character? Maybe you need to consider your own character. People don't often rub me the wrong way. Your ignorance and self-righteousness do. I can take a hit with the best of them but it's time you stop saying that I hate Winston or anyone else.

It's his shtick and you're not the only one that it grates on. Many of us have asked him to stop with the smarmy b1tchiness but here we are.
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Old 11-04-2021, 04:16 PM   #73
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I would tend to agree with that strategy as that is what I proposed all along in having Winston as the starter, but Siemian is not Winston. Nowhere even close. I feel that we have a far greater chance of success with the ball in Taysom's hands every play. Winston is a playmaker. Hill is a playmaker Siemian is not and never has been. I believe Payton knows this and I expect Hill to be getting all of the first team reps in practice.
From Oxford Language dictionary:

Water under the bridge:

used to refer to events or situations that are in the past and consequently no longer to be regarded as important or as a source of concern.

His actions are impacting the team NOW and they are a source of concern NOW. Hence it is not water under the bridge.

I also don’t buy your take that no one else on the team cares that his actions screwed the team. Especially when you want to nail Rogers for not taking the vaccine yet give Thomas a pass on this.
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Old 11-04-2021, 04:32 PM   #74
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From Oxford Language dictionary:

Water under the bridge:

used to refer to events or situations that are in the past and consequently no longer to be regarded as important or as a source of concern.

His actions are impacting the team NOW and they are a source of concern NOW. Hence it is not water under the bridge.

I also don’t buy your take that no one else on the team cares that his actions screwed the team. Especially when you want to nail Rogers for not taking the vaccine yet give Thomas a pass on this.
Sorry you don't buy it. That's your prerogative. Just like dwelling on things that are water under the bridge is your prerogative. As far as I am concerned the fact that Thomas didn't have surgery earlier is of zero concern to me and no longer is important because it has no impact one way or the other any longer. There is no guarantee he would have been available if he had. What is, is.

But, you keep dwelling if it makes you feel better! Just stand there on that bridge looking downstream as that water flows further and further away.

Oh, by the way, I'm not nailing Rodgers for not taking the vaccine. I'm nailing him for implying that he had been "inoculated" and for repeatedly violating mandated protocols.


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The TEAM has been playing far better than decent. I don't know about ya'll but watching 2 or 3 out of 15 3rd down conversion attemps succeed is poor football to me. Watching Jameis struggle trying to play - especially while pulling for the guy - has been less than fun. I'm glad that he's only thrown a few interceptions but Winston owning the 32nd place 59 % pass completion is a bummer to watch. Only Zach Wilson with NYJ is worse. Every QB but one has a better passing completion rate. Where is the HATE in that statement? Our great defense and running game have won our games this year. AG's positive attitude about the team is sometimes fun but mostly blinding. Honest criticism is not hate. You cannot find one hateful thing I have written about Winston. If we met and I kicked your a$$ people might think I didn't like you, or that it was self-defense but not necessarily that I HATE you. Of course, we haven't met and I don't feel like doing that nor do I hate you. But YOU actually do attack me and call me a Hater and verbally abuse me - at least recently. Does that make you feel good? I came on this site to meet people with similar interests and discuss the saints. I've been negative about Coach Payton's play calling at times. I don't HATE the guy. I've criticized Dennis Allen. I don't HATE the guy. Winston's play is hard to watch a lot of the time. I DON'T HATE THE GUY. What is it in your heart that makes you enjoy attacking someone's character? Maybe you need to consider your own character. People don't often rub me the wrong way. Your ignorance and self-righteousness do. I can take a hit with the best of them but it's time you stop saying that I hate Winston or anyone else.
Okay. Lovers gonna love! Feel better?
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Okay. Lovers gonna love! Feel better?
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I love you, too! Even with your name calling.
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From Oxford Language dictionary:

Water under the bridge:

used to refer to events or situations that are in the past and consequently no longer to be regarded as important or as a source of concern.

His actions are impacting the team NOW and they are a source of concern NOW. Hence it is not water under the bridge.

I also don’t buy your take that no one else on the team cares that his actions screwed the team. Especially when you want to nail Rogers for not taking the vaccine yet give Thomas a pass on this.
Now now Bosty don't go at him with logic! Lol

Someone not taking this relatively new and "experimental" vaccine doesn't make them a jerk.

I'm inclined to agree more with Rogers on this.
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Now now Bosty don't go at him with logic! Lol

Someone not taking this relatively new and "experimental" vaccine doesn't make them a jerk.

I'm inclined to agree more with Rogers on this.
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