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ChrisXVI 04-15-2022 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 950139)
Latest mock ...

"Saints select" @ 16 .... Charles Cross (T)
Miss State
Love it. Best pass blocking LT in the draft. Scared that Carolina takes him @ 6.

jeanpierre 04-15-2022 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 950139)
Latest mock ..."Saints select" @ 16 .... Charles Cross (T) Miss State
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 950142)
Love it. Best pass blocking LT in the draft. Scared that Carolina takes him @ 6.
Do y'all think Carolina trades back? Adds picks like Mortensen among others suggest? They don't have R2, R3 picks...

K Major 04-15-2022 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 950146)
Do y'all think Carolina trades back? Adds picks like Mortensen among others suggest? They don't have R2, R3 picks...
Definitely a realistic option for the Panthers.

But me think they will gamble on a QB. Darnold is still on the books for 2022, however it didn't stop them from going after Russ and Desean a few weeks ago.

They go also go BPA but that team needs a lot. Rhule's job is on the line.

ChrisXVI 04-15-2022 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 950146)
Do y'all think Carolina trades back? Adds picks like Mortensen among others suggest? They don't have R2, R3 picks...
It would be wise with their lack of draft capital, but looking at the draft order… I don’t see who would want to trade up.

jeanpierre 04-15-2022 01:18 PM
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It would be wise with their lack of draft capital, but looking at the draft order… I don’t see who would want to trade up.
Maybe teams that would want a CB1 like Derek Stingley, Sauce Gardner, Andrew Booth for their defenses?

jeanpierre 04-15-2022 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 950147)
Definitely a realistic option for the Panthers.

But me think they will gamble on a QB. Darnold is still on the books for 2022, however it didn't stop them from going after Russ and Desean a few weeks ago.

They go also go BPA but that team needs a lot. Rhule's job is on the line.
Some were saying Pickett, others Willis by the Panthers...

Chris Mortensen was the guest on the Mel Kiper Jr. Mock 4.0 and suggested if Rhule still has control, they trade back, get some draft capital to restock the roster...

But the owner and GM apparently want to be involved with the selection - that could lead to Willis or Pickett getting pick; or it could be draft smokescreen...

jeanpierre 04-16-2022 01:29 PM
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Rugby Saint II 04-16-2022 02:43 PM
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Who are the nastiest players you want the Saints to draft? When I say nasty I'm talking about players like Kyle Turley and Nicks who were finishers with an attitude. Occasionally I read that certain players have a nasty streak. Who are they and can we get them in a Saints uniform next year?

ChrisXVI 04-16-2022 03:59 PM
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The Panthers don’t even want one of these QB’s in this draft. It’s looking entirely possible that not a single QB is off the board yet when our first pick rolls around.

jeanpierre 04-16-2022 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 950176)
https://twitter.com/nfltrade_rumors/...27410656735232

The Panthers don’t even want one of these QB’s in this draft. It’s looking entirely possible that not a single QB is off the board yet when our first pick rolls around.
Can see Atlanta taking Willis as they've got Marcus Mariota starting right now...

Also Seattle could be in on a QB; while I like Drew Lott, they may see an upgrade...

And don't forget Riverboat Ron Rivera and the Commanders, Carson Wentz may just be a smokescreen...

jeanpierre 04-16-2022 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 950174)
Who are the nastiest players you want the Saints to draft? When I say nasty I'm talking about players like Kyle Turley and Nicks who were finishers with an attitude. Occasionally I read that certain players have a nasty streak. Who are they and can we get them in a Saints uniform next year?
OT Trevor Penning, Northern Iowa. Rugs, the guy watches horror movies to amp himself up more for games...

jeanpierre 04-16-2022 05:41 PM
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jeanpierre 04-16-2022 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 950174)
Who are the nastiest players you want the Saints to draft? When I say nasty I'm talking about players like Kyle Turley and Nicks who were finishers with an attitude. Occasionally I read that certain players have a nasty streak. Who are they and can we get them in a Saints uniform next year?
Rugs, I'd missed these, one is the Senior Bowl against competition he'll face in the NFL...

ChrisXVI 04-16-2022 07:12 PM
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Penning is going to get called for sooo many holding penalties in the NFL. He was flagged 16 times in 12 games last season against FCS edge rushers. Hope that can be coached out of him.

Boston Saint 04-16-2022 07:18 PM
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Penning is going to get called for sooo many holding penalties in the NFL. He was flagged 16 times in 12 games last season against FCS edge rushers. Hope that can be coached out of him.
Good knowledge Chris. Appreciate the deep dive into stats/players.

K Major 04-16-2022 07:43 PM
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Dontario Drummond - WR Ole Miss

Lower round bargain pick.

jeanpierre 04-16-2022 11:26 PM
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Penning is going to get called for sooo many holding penalties in the NFL. He was flagged 16 times in 12 games last season against FCS edge rushers. Hope that can be coached out of him.
Coaches at the Senior Bowl also commented how quickly he adjusted some of his technique with some NFL coaching - Saints get him, Doug Marrone gets him...

jeanpierre 04-17-2022 04:05 AM
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SmashMouth 04-17-2022 10:05 AM
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Respect his decision... :popcorn:

K Major 04-17-2022 10:30 AM
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Oh well, the Raiders will omit the kid from their shortlist :D.

Rugby Saint II 04-17-2022 11:33 AM
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Respect his decision... :popcorn:
Hey Smash, what is the benefit of not doing the drills unless you know you will look bad and on the record? I want to know why you respect his decision because I respect yours.

jeanpierre 04-17-2022 03:56 PM
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Hey Smash, what is the benefit of not doing the drills unless you know you will look bad and on the record? I want to know why you respect his decision because I respect yours.
Drake's stock could only go down at this point with a disappointing 40. Sliding five, six slots is millions of dollars in the upper half of the first round...

SmashMouth 04-18-2022 10:23 AM
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Hey Smash, what is the benefit of not doing the drills unless you know you will look bad and on the record? I want to know why you respect his decision because I respect yours.
It's a take on a joke with kids changing their minds when being recruited in college football. They all make decisions with their very public announcements and later change commitments to schools... then go on to say "Respect My Decision" .

This merely an extension of this joke with this WR's decision to not do things pre-draft.

:chug:


:p

SmashMouth 04-18-2022 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 950210)
Drake's stock could only go down at this point with a disappointing 40. Sliding five, six slots is millions of dollars in the upper half of the first round...
Case in point with Stingley, he upped his draft stock with a stellar time of his own. Drake must be scared.

BTW, good luck to Stingley. I am not sure he is worth the hype that high in the draft. But I respect his decision. :wink:

:chug:

SmashMouth 04-18-2022 10:27 AM
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K Major 04-18-2022 10:36 AM
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I agree with Triplett. That article was pretty telling ..

"The Saints and Atlanta Falcons are the only two teams that did not draft any receivers in Rounds 1-4 from 2019-2021."

SmashMouth 04-18-2022 12:24 PM
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Matt Corral visiting Saints this week

stickman 04-18-2022 02:39 PM
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One of the comments compares him to Josh Allen. If I thought that were true I would be praying for the Saints to draft him.

shawnkytonk 04-18-2022 05:02 PM
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One of the comments compares him to Josh Allen. If I thought that were true I would be praying for the Saints to draft him.
Well yeah, but I haven't seen anything resembling Allen when I watch him play.

stickman 04-18-2022 07:31 PM
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Well yeah, but I haven't seen anything resembling Allen when I watch him play.
Like I said... "if" I thought that were true.

jeanpierre 04-19-2022 01:44 PM
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Matt Corral has one of the strongest, most compact deliveries of this QB class, and it's what makes him my favorite (Pickett being 1A) of this class...

I'd be excited if the Saints got Corral who's a better prospect than given credit, maybe by the end of his first year to adjust from RPO to NFL QBing...

Willis can be the Truth, likely need two years to develop as he's raw and has only shown one read and improvise; league would catch on quick like ...

Really like Ridder and his disposition, but have little confidence in his accuracy...

Howell is Baker Mayfield, if that's your style guy...

Western Kentucky QB Bailey Zappe and Southeastern Louisiana Cole Kelley will surprise folks in a year or two...

Rugby Saint II 04-19-2022 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 950210)
Drake's stock could only go down at this point with a disappointing 40. Sliding five, six slots is millions of dollars in the upper half of the first round...
That's right. I forgot about that. But I do remember watching star players lose it when they dropped in the draft. Now I know why they are so upset.

jeanpierre 04-19-2022 02:30 PM
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jeanpierre 04-19-2022 03:02 PM
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jeanpierre 04-19-2022 04:15 PM
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jeanpierre 04-19-2022 04:20 PM
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Rell&Gold 04-19-2022 04:34 PM
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Devin Lloyd is looking nice too

jeanpierre 04-19-2022 08:28 PM
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K Major 04-19-2022 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 950265)
https://media4.giphy.com/media/5b5OU...=200.webp&ct=g

I hope the current coaching staff/scouts/GM isn't asking for his advice.

You aren't competing for a Lombardi with the likes of Chris Hogan, Tommy Lee Lewis & Kevin White @ WR. We don't have Brees anymore.

If a stud WR is there at pick #16 or 19th (assuming we don't move up), select that potential Day 1 impact player next Thursday night and let's go compete.

Just don't see HC Dennis Allen ignoring the WR position on Day 1.

Boston Saint 04-19-2022 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 950266)
https://media4.giphy.com/media/5b5OU...=200.webp&ct=g

I hope the current coaching staff/scouts/GM isn't asking for his advice.

You aren't competing for a Lombardi with the likes of Chris Hogan, Tommy Lee Lewis & Kevin White @ WR. We don't have Brees anymore.

If a stud WR is there at pick #16 or 19th (assuming we don't move up), select that potential Day 1 impact player next Thursday night and let's go compete.

Just don't see HC Dennis Allen ignoring the WR position on Day 1.
While I agree with you Major and want them to take a WR in the first, he could have just been saying that later talent exists. Deeboo Samuel, DK Metcaff and Cooper Kupp were all second round selections or later.


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