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jeanpierre 04-06-2022 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 949674)
2022 has a stacked field of WR's/quality o linemen & by most accounts, "experts & many scouts" are saying that this is a below-average list of prospects at QB ...

Selecting a QB at 18 would be a serious reach.

Just my GM couch coach opinion though.

This QB class is better than it's being given credit...

vpheughan 04-06-2022 07:53 AM

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This QB class is better than it's being given credit...

I can almost hear the hands rubbing together in anticipation!!!! Imagine the Paytonless Saints pick one who goes BUST!!! The LITANY OF "THEY SHOULD'A TAKEN ...........THE KID FROM..........will flow like SACREMENTAL WHINE!!!

turbo_dog 04-06-2022 10:09 AM

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I know the Saints have signed a couple of safeties lately, but neither of them look like starters. I'm high on Cine from UGA. Would love to see him in black and gold.

SmashMouth 04-06-2022 11:26 AM

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Gil Brandt's Top 100 list

His ratings are different than that of PFF. Makes you wonder if a trade was really necessary. With the draft three weeks away, just how much movement should we expect these prospects to make in the eventual draft order?

AsylumGuido 04-06-2022 12:35 PM

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AsylumGuido 04-06-2022 12:36 PM

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AsylumGuido 04-06-2022 12:38 PM

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jeanpierre 04-06-2022 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 949673)
I don’t know. I can’t scout QB’s at all. There’s way too much off-field and cerebral stuff that goes into a QB’s success that we don’t really know about.

I've got a post coming up for that...

jeanpierre 04-06-2022 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 949714)
Gil Brandt's Top 100 list

His ratings are different than that of PFF. Makes you wonder if a trade was really necessary. With the draft three weeks away, just how much movement should we expect these prospects to make in the eventual draft order?

Gil Brandt's take is always interesting, but tends to be dated by a few decades...

jeanpierre 04-06-2022 01:19 PM

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F' Sauce Gardner, Stingley is the best CB in this draft...



jeanpierre 04-06-2022 01:20 PM

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Sneaky Day 3 picks...


jeanpierre 04-06-2022 01:27 PM

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So while I've been down this past week, I've been watching analysis on the QBs in this draft...

The class is underrated, and small, but has some gems, including Western Kentucky QB Bailey Zappe and Southeastern Louisiana Cole Kelley (Tom Brady type passer)...

Anyways some of you may remember a QB the Saints drafted in 2002, Round 6, J.T. O'Sullivan who has a really informative YouTube Channel breaking down QBs...

My favorite in this draft is QB Matt Corrall, really like his quick, efficient, strong, Marino-like release; well, O'Sullivan started analysis on Corrall more than a year ago...

So you get to see the growth and development of Matt Corrall over the past year; O'Sullivan, as in all videos, is brutal with criticism as well as generous in accolades...

Here are some links of those videos:





jeanpierre 04-06-2022 01:44 PM

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jeanpierre 04-06-2022 01:53 PM

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jeanpierre 04-06-2022 01:54 PM

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SmashMouth 04-06-2022 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 949732)
So while I've been down this past week, I've been watching analysis on the QBs in this draft...

The class is underrated, and small, but has some gems, including Western Kentucky QB Bailey Zappe and Southeastern Louisiana Cole Kelley (Tom Brady type passer)...

Anyways some of you may remember a QB the Saints drafted in 2002, Round 6, J.T. O'Sullivan who has a really informative YouTube Channel breaking down QBs...

My favorite in this draft is QB Matt Corrall, really like his quick, efficient, strong, Marino-like release; well, O'Sullivan started analysis on Corrall more than a year ago...

So you get to see the growth and development of Matt Corrall over the past year; O'Sullivan, as in all videos, is brutal with criticism as well as generous in accolades...

Here are some links of those videos:


Matt Corral Analysis, Part 1 - YouTube

College Football Analysis: Matt Corral, Part 3 - YouTube

NFL Draft Analysis: Matt Corral, Part 6 - YouTube

JT needs to do a top ten for QBs in this draft.

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 949737)

While he has speed, his numbers at LSU were significantly inflated, IMHO, with the talent, now in the NFL, he was surrounded by. I mean that 2019 LSU team is the team of all ages. His numbers waned quite a bit in 2020. I am not so sure he belongs in the top ten as he's being touted as of late. But let some team pull the trigger on him then. It'll help the Saints get a player they want who may have slipped down as a result on a guy like Stingley getting in the top ten.

jeanpierre 04-06-2022 03:18 PM

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AsylumGuido 04-06-2022 04:41 PM

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rezburna 04-06-2022 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 949732)
So while I've been down this past week, I've been watching analysis on the QBs in this draft...

The class is underrated, and small, but has some gems, including Western Kentucky QB Bailey Zappe and Southeastern Louisiana Cole Kelley (Tom Brady type passer)...

Anyways some of you may remember a QB the Saints drafted in 2002, Round 6, J.T. O'Sullivan who has a really informative YouTube Channel breaking down QBs...

My favorite in this draft is QB Matt Corrall, really like his quick, efficient, strong, Marino-like release; well, O'Sullivan started analysis on Corrall more than a year ago...

So you get to see the growth and development of Matt Corrall over the past year; O'Sullivan, as in all videos, is brutal with criticism as well as generous in accolades...

Here are some links of those videos:


Matt Corral Analysis, Part 1 - YouTube

College Football Analysis: Matt Corral, Part 3 - YouTube

NFL Draft Analysis: Matt Corral, Part 6 - YouTube

Matt Corrall was my favorite all year. I watched a lot of Ole Miss. I hate Ole Miss because of their history but I can’t lie like I don’t love their swag. A part of me wanted to go play ball there. But yeah, I do like Matt.

jeanpierre 04-07-2022 01:46 AM

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Get why many want a WR in Round 1, but we've already got #CantGuardMike as a WRx, so why draft another?

Will say we definitely need some help opposite Mike to open the field and those guys will be there Day 2...

My favorites on Day 2 are Alex Pierce and Skyy Moore - so this tweet really caught my eye...



jeanpierre 04-07-2022 09:40 AM

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jeanpierre 04-07-2022 09:41 AM

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jeanpierre 04-07-2022 09:44 AM

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jeanpierre 04-07-2022 11:30 AM

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jeanpierre 04-07-2022 12:09 PM

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jeanpierre 04-07-2022 12:20 PM

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turbo_dog 04-07-2022 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 949769)
Get why many want a WR in Round 1, but we've already got #CantGuardMike as a WRx, so why draft another?

Will say we definitely need some help opposite Mike to open the field and those guys will be there Day 2...

My favorites on Day 2 are Alex Pierce and Skyy Moore - so this tweet really caught my eye...


https://twitter.com/PFF_Fantasy/stat...54859590000641


Is that a compliment or criticism? :p

jeanpierre 04-07-2022 01:33 PM

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jeanpierre 04-07-2022 08:34 PM

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SmashMouth 04-08-2022 10:18 PM

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jeanpierre 04-08-2022 10:44 PM

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Alec Pierce is the WRz we need long-term opposite @CantGuardMike to really open things up...

Grabbing Bo Melton late would be amazing, he's never played with a quality passer, and has cheetah speed...



AsylumGuido 04-09-2022 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 949904)

I have long argued the fact that the Saints have not been anti-LSU as compared to the rest of the league. This graphic shows clearly that only six teams have drafted more LSU players since 1980.

K Major 04-09-2022 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 949917)
I have long argued the fact that the Saints have not been anti-LSU as compared to the rest of the league. This graphic shows clearly that only six teams have drafted more LSU players since 1980.

Over the last decade, how many of those were legit (rds 1-4) NFL prospects?

Rounds 5 -7 aren’t good enough. Only true prospect I got under Payton was Dev Henderson but that was almost 2 decades ago.

Recent notable names that were on the board and passed on …. Jarvis Landry (we selected BUST Stanley Jean Baptiste) Jabril Cox & Patrick Queen (we selected Ruiz :rolleyes: instead).

Lord_Saint83 04-09-2022 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 949919)
Over the last decade, how many of those were legit (rds 1-4) NFL prospects?

Rounds 5 -7 aren’t good enough. Only true prospect I got under Payton was Dev Henderson but that was almost 2 decades ago.

Recent notable names that were on the board and passed on …. Jarvis Landry (we selected BUST Stanley Jean Baptiste) Jabril Cox & Patrick Queen (we selected Ruiz :rolleyes: instead).



Too bad we couldn't of traded Ruiz for Cooks. Since Houston’s front office loves Ruiz and draft another guard

K Major 04-09-2022 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 949920)
Too bad we couldn't of traded Ruiz for Cooks. Since Houston’s front office loves Ruiz and draft another guard

Where the hell is Bill O’Brien when you need him :p.

He traded away LEGIT (Cooks/Hopkins) WR threats.

Lord_Saint83 04-09-2022 11:51 AM

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Where the hell is Bill O’Brien when you need him :p.

He traded away LEGIT (Cooks/Hopkins) WR threats.



Lol, right? We could of got Cooks for a pack of big red

jeanpierre 04-09-2022 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 949919)
Over the last decade, how many of those were legit (rds 1-4) NFL prospects?

Rounds 5 -7 aren’t good enough. Only true prospect I got under Payton was Dev Henderson but that was almost 2 decades ago.

Recent notable names that were on the board and passed on …. Jarvis Landry (we selected BUST Stanley Jean Baptiste) Jabril Cox & Patrick Queen (we selected Ruiz :rolleyes: instead).

That graph goes back to the 80s and includes 80s picks Hokie Gajan, Eric Martin, Dalton Hilliard, Michael Mayes - all outstanding players that boosted the roster...

In the Sean Payton era, the Saints have only two picks - DT Al Woods, C Will Clapp; WR Devery Henderson was picked in 2004...

jeanpierre 04-09-2022 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 949920)
Too bad we couldn't of traded Ruiz for Cooks. Since Houston’s front office loves Ruiz and draft another guard

I'd had love to do that, pick up OT Luke Goedeke in Round 3 to play Guard...

saintsfan1976 04-10-2022 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 949944)
That graph goes back to the 80s and includes 80s picks Hokie Gajan, Eric Martin, Dalton Hilliard, Michael Mayes - all outstanding players that boosted the roster...

In the Sean Payton era, the Saints have only two picks - DT Al Woods, C Will Clapp; WR Devery Henderson was picked in 2004...

Great point. We need to tap into more (and better) LSU players.

I wonder if it comes down to guys who WANT to remain in their home state especially as a young man with money.

K Major 04-10-2022 10:41 AM

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With 2 picks in rd 1, that's gonna be crazy.

I'm hoping Dennis Allen and the brain trust stay put @ 16, 19.

Potentially, you are looking at TWO quality starters for years to come.

Imagine hitting on this years picks & having another 2017 type Saints draft (Latt, Marcus W, Ramz, AK, Trey H) class.

Whoa.


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