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saintsfan1976 03-22-2022 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 948443)
Another impressive showing for Malik. Really strong arm.

Probably gets drafted by Seattle or Carolina.
OR...

We could jump ahead of both in a trade with NYG. The #5 pick would likely only cost us this year's and next year's firsts.

Worth it to let him sit for a year behind Winston? I'm not sure but there's certainly a path.


https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...RequestTeam=no

ChrisXVI 03-22-2022 06:40 PM
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Welp… Terron Armstead’s a Dolphin now. First round LT it is.

K Major 03-22-2022 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 948453)
Welp… Terron Armstead’s a Dolphin now. First round LT it is.
Damn, in the first round XVI? I can't stomach another underperforming 1st rounder on the O-line. We already have two as it is.

I'm crossing my fingers we go WR @ #18. Mike Thomas hasn't organized football in a long time & no one knows how the rehab is going.

shawnkytonk 03-22-2022 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 948456)
Damn, in the first round XVI? I can't stomach another underperforming 1st rounder on the O-line. We already have two as it is.

I'm crossing my fingers we go WR @ #18. Mike Thomas hasn't organized football in a long time & no one knows how the rehab is going.
I know it's been mentioned before about us not trading back in the Payton era, but wouldn't it be nice to trade back in the 1st and landing someone like Olave or Burks and acquiring more picks? We've hit in the 2nd and 3rd on OL like McCoy and Armstead. We don't have to draft an LT, just a T. Ram can hold down either side. I actually like the guy from Kentucky in the 2nd, Kinnard, who can play tackle or guard.

ChrisXVI 03-22-2022 07:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by K Major (Post 948456)
Damn, in the first round XVI? I can't stomach another underperforming 1st rounder on the O-line. We already have two as it is.

I'm crossing my fingers we go WR @ #18. Mike Thomas hasn't organized football in a long time & no one knows how the rehab is going.
Of course I don’t really know what Dennis Allen will prioritize, but it’s hard to picture them straying from focusing on the trenches.

The Dude 03-22-2022 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 948458)
Of course I don’t really know what Dennis Allen will prioritize, but it’s hard to picture them straying from focusing on the trenches.
I think it’s still the plan. Letting Armstead walk makes me think a Qb is off the table. No sense in drafting one in a weak draft class and have him take a beating if his number gets called. Shore up the line, give them a year to gel and go after a Qb next year if need be. I think we kind find a receiver later on so I think tackle at 18 makes sense.

Rsanders24 03-22-2022 09:25 PM
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Ramz needs to stay where he is at RT. We better hope that Hurst can hold down LT all year or that Young has improved and that he isnt injury prone like the rest of our OL.

Boston Saint 03-22-2022 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 948466)
I think it’s still the plan. Letting Armstead walk makes me think a Qb is off the table. No sense in drafting one in a weak draft class and have him take a beating if his number gets called. Shore up the line, give them a year to gel and go after a Qb next year if need be. I think we kind find a receiver later on so I think tackle at 18 makes sense.
It’s gonna be silly for them to go for a QB next year after Winston wins the MVP and comeback player of the year awards THIS season! 😆

jeanpierre 03-22-2022 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 948456)
Damn, in the first round XVI? I can't stomach another underperforming 1st rounder on the O-line. We already have two as it is.

I'm crossing my fingers we go WR @ #18. Mike Thomas hasn't organized football in a long time & no one knows how the rehab is going.
There's a few offensive linemen there who have the film, athletic SPARQ that wasn't there with Ruiz and Peat...

saintsfan1976 03-23-2022 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 948453)
Welp… Terron Armstead’s a Dolphin now. First round LT it is.
Armstead was a third rounder.

saintsfan1976 03-23-2022 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 948466)
I think it’s still the plan. Letting Armstead walk makes me think a Qb is off the table. No sense in drafting one in a weak draft class and have him take a beating if his number gets called. Shore up the line, give them a year to gel and go after a Qb next year if need be. I think we kind find a receiver later on so I think tackle at 18 makes sense.
IF Pickett is there at 18 do you take him?

K Major 03-23-2022 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 948477)
Armstead was a third rounder.
That’s what I’m saying.

Really no need to reach for an offensive lineman in the first rd.

Jahri Evans, Carl Nicks, Armstead’s can be had in mid rounds if your scouts have done their homework ;).

Gotta nail pick 18.

saintsfan1976 03-23-2022 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 948479)

Gotta nail pick 18.
BPA assuming you've addressed the roster in FA.

Given the pursuit of Watson and the subsequent signing of Winston to a SHORT contract, I really can't rule out a trade UP for one of these QBs. That is assuming they're in love with one.

Boston Saint 03-23-2022 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 948479)
That’s what I’m saying.

Really no need to reach for an offensive lineman in the first rd.

Jahri Evans, Carl Nicks, Armstead’s can be had in mid rounds if your scouts have done their homework ;).

Gotta nail pick 18.
While I agree with your thoughts on the need to nail pick 1 Major, I don’t think it’s very position specific. First round WR picks like Kevin White and Cooks haven’t lived up to their draft positions while guys like Cooper Kupp and Colston have done well coming in later rounds. Matches up pretty well with the Armstead/Ruiz/Peat comparisons I say. So, WR or OL isn’t as important as getting it right like you say.

K Major 03-23-2022 07:40 AM
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James Cook (Dalvin's brother) - RB Georgia

Projected mid/late rounder prospect

The Dude 03-23-2022 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 948470)
It’s gonna be silly for them to go for a QB next year after Winston wins the MVP and comeback player of the year awards THIS season! 😆
One can only hope!
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 948478)
IF Pickett is there at 18 do you take him?
I saw a mock on NFL.com that had us picking Picket. I don’t love the idea but if Picket or Corral happen to be there at 18 I think they go for it.

jeanpierre 03-23-2022 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 948483)
James Cook (Dalvin's brother) - RB Georgia

Projected mid/late rounder prospect

James Cook 2021 Highlights - YouTube
Actually reminds me of Kamara-type of RB; but you'd need a power back to pair with him...

jeanpierre 03-23-2022 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 948479)
That’s what I’m saying.

Really no need to reach for an offensive lineman in the first rd.

Jahri Evans, Carl Nicks, Armstead’s can be had in mid rounds if your scouts have done their homework ;).

Gotta nail pick 18.
With the money committed to Michael Thomas, why go out in the first round and draft another WRx?

If the plan is to move Thomas next season, fine, then yeah, I can see taking a WRx in the first round...

The talent across our offensive line has dropped off dramatically the past five years, especially after losing Unger, and winning starts up front with elite talent...

Maybe with Sean's departure, Dennis Allen will give Ireland greater influence and trust him to not reach on an offensive lineman as they did on Ruiz...

This year's draft has franchise tackles that will be there through the first round as much as wide receivers...

Also, with as much money as committed to Kamara, we've got to be able to impose our will up front and force open running lanes for him to do damage...

A young stud to pair with Ramczyk, at LT or RT, would open the field up and bring back our legitimate play-action pass...

At the end of the day, you take the best player available that falls to you, even if it's a DT3, or if I dare say it, a QB1...

Really hoping Trevor Penning or Bernhard Raimann is there and we take one of them, or we get Daniel Faalele on Day 2, move Ramczyk to LT...

But if it's Ole Miss QB Matt Corrall or Florida CB Kaiir Elam, then it is what it is...

We definitely need a FA WRz, paired with a young rookie, to put opposite Mike Thomas, that's why I wouldn't mind waiting to R2 in a draft that is deep at WR...

K Major 03-23-2022 11:47 AM
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We have a new HC, new assistants & trainers in town.

Let's see what direction they take @ pick #18 as we head to the draft.

Can't wait.

jeanpierre 03-23-2022 01:35 PM
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shawnkytonk 03-23-2022 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 948478)
IF Pickett is there at 18 do you take him?
Too early imo for any of the qbs, but I’m only an armchair coach.

ChrisXVI 03-23-2022 04:05 PM
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Lord_Saint83 03-23-2022 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 948527)
Too early imo for any of the qbs, but I’m only an armchair coach.

None of these qb’s have me saying I gotta have them.

rezburna 03-23-2022 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 948530)
Olave! My boy!

K Major 03-23-2022 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 948530)
#DRAFTAWR@PICK18

shawnkytonk 03-23-2022 05:23 PM
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Olave or Burks at 18 would make me happy.

K Major 03-23-2022 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by shawnkytonk (Post 948535)
Olave or Burks at 18 would make me happy.
Your thoughts on G Wilson? To me, he's a dawg too.

ChrisXVI 03-23-2022 05:34 PM
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Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson or Jameson Williams. That’s my three if we go first round WR.

shawnkytonk 03-23-2022 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 948536)
Your thoughts on G Wilson? To me, he's a dawg too.
Sure. Definitely wouldn't be upset with him either.

ChrisXVI 03-23-2022 07:24 PM
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Great player to target with our second round pick.

The Dude 03-23-2022 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 948526)
Why is McCarthy there? They just gave Dak a big contract.

K Major 03-23-2022 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 948542)
Why is McCarthy there? They just gave Dak a big contract.
Cows lost Randy Gregory & Conner Williams to Free Agency and La'el Collins in a trade.

McCarthy has his eye on defensive ends & an "ole big ugly" offensive lineman to keep Dak upright.

SmashMouth 03-24-2022 11:05 AM
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The Saints bit is at about the 4:30 minute mark in the video.

Pickett would be a good pick for the Saints, IMHO, after listening to his interview. He compares himself to Joey B., for whatever it's worth.

SmashMouth 03-24-2022 11:07 AM
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:popcorn:

jeanpierre 03-24-2022 11:51 PM
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jeanpierre 03-25-2022 12:55 AM
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SmashMouth 03-25-2022 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 948619)
He'll be a backup in the NFL.

K Major 03-25-2022 11:08 AM
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2022 QB draft class ... meh.

None of these guys scream "franchise".

SmashMouth 03-25-2022 11:31 AM
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jeanpierre 03-25-2022 01:17 PM
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Hamilton in the Top 10 is still a head-scratcher to me...


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