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jeanpierre 03-25-2022 07:21 PM
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jeanpierre 03-25-2022 07:22 PM
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jeanpierre 03-25-2022 07:26 PM
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jeanpierre 03-25-2022 08:49 PM
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lee909 03-25-2022 09:22 PM
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Rugby Saint II 03-26-2022 09:37 AM
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Please deal Jeff Ireland four aces on draft day.

jeanpierre 03-26-2022 12:04 PM
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K Major 03-26-2022 05:55 PM
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Abraham Lucas - OT Washington St

Technically sound, good upper body strength & refined. 6'6 / 320

High football IQ with above-average feet speed.

Late Day 1, possible Day 2 sleeper.

Hopefully the Saints won't reach for a Olineman in the first.

lee909 03-26-2022 06:04 PM
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Abraham Lucas - OT Washington St

Technically sound, good upper body strength & refined. 6'6 / 320

High football IQ with above-average feet speed.

Late Day 1, possible Day 2 sleeper.

Hopefully the Saints won't reach for a Olineman in the first.
Honestly as unsexy as OL are I think it'll be as important as any WR they can draft(and we really do need a WR).

I'd still be trying to get Parker pre draft(4th-6th).

Debating with someone the other day who thinks the line is good. Peat spends as much time on his backside as his feet when healthy and honestly Ruiz just looks lost and its having a effect on McCoy and Ramczyk who are constantly trying to do their job and watch to cover his misses as well.

Jaemis was sacked 6.6% on all drop backs last year(highest in the league). Terron is gone leaving a massive hole. And McCoy,Throckmorton are both FA next year.

ChrisXVI 03-26-2022 06:09 PM
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Abraham Lucas - OT Washington St

Technically sound, good upper body strength & refined. 6'6 / 320

High football IQ with above-average feet speed.

Late Day 1, possible Day 2 sleeper.

Hopefully the Saints won't reach for a Olineman in the first.
Fits the bill as 1 of 8 OT’s in this draft with a 9.0+ RAS. That will greatly appeal to the Saints. He’s only played RT though.

AsylumGuido 03-26-2022 06:15 PM
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Honestly as unsexy as OL are I think it'll be as important as any WR they can draft(and we really do need a WR).

I'd still be trying to get Parker pre draft(4th-6th).

Debating with someone the other day who thinks the line is good. Peat spends as much time on his backside as his feet when healthy and honestly Ruiz just looks lost and its having a effect on McCoy and Ramczyk who are constantly trying to do their job and watch to cover his misses as well.

Jaemis was sacked 6.6% on all drop backs last year(highest in the league). Terron is gone leaving a massive hole. And McCoy,Throckmorton are both FA next year.
Don't forget that Ramczyk and McCoy missed 13 games between them last season counting the five snap first game by McCoy.

K Major 03-26-2022 06:30 PM
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Lol, excuses as usual.

Peat and Ruiz are weak links 1a & 1b. Dougie Marrone won't deal with the shenanigans on the line. Get it together or have a seat.

Brees, Taysom, Winston and Trevor took unnecessary shots over the last two seasons by these two former 1st rounders whiffing/missed assignments.

Hopefully we bring in a vet to push Ruiz.

ChrisXVI 03-26-2022 06:34 PM
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I’m really starting to like the idea of Georgia WR George Pickens in the 2nd round. He doesn’t get talked about as much because of the injury last year. He would be a perfect fit at Z-receiver.

Boston Saint 03-27-2022 10:28 AM
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Draft is one month from tomorrow! Jaguars on the clock.

As of my feeling right now, I hope the Saints trade back from 18 and get two later picks in the first/secon somehow end up with three total picks in the first 2 rounds (Two from trading 18 plus their own second rounder). With those three picks in the top 64 I would take WR, T, then highest rated of S, TE, or HB. Then move onto round 3 where they have multiple picks. Anything signed from FA would be gravy then. An OBJ or Landry coming in as a #3 WR sounds fine to me. So does signing say Melvin Gordon or Kyle Rudolph.

Probably why I’m not employed by any NFL teams
at the moment. 🤔

ChrisXVI 03-27-2022 10:42 AM
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The more I look at it, as much as I want a guy like Chris Olave in the 1st, it’s going to be a lot easier to get a complementary Z-receiver on day two than it will be a plug and play starting LT.

Boston Saint 03-27-2022 10:43 AM
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I’m really starting to like the idea of Georgia WR George Pickens in the 2nd round. He doesn’t get talked about as much because of the injury last year. He would be a perfect fit at Z-receiver.
Do you know his injury status?

Boston Saint 03-27-2022 10:47 AM
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The more I look at it, as much as I want a guy like Chris Olave in the 1st, it’s going to be a lot easier to get a complementary Z-receiver on day two than it will be a plug and play starting LT.
I kinda have that feeling too, but Major has brought up good points about getting that stud WR as well. It’s a tough choice. We’ve had some “misses” with first round Oline picks in recent years. Only no 1 WR taken recently was Cooks and he wasn’t terrible.

ChrisXVI 03-27-2022 10:50 AM
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Do you know his injury status?
The ACL tear was in March 2021 and he managed to play a little down the stretch in Georgia’s title run (in a very limited way of course.) By all accounts he’s good to go now.

jeanpierre 03-27-2022 10:52 AM
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The more I look at it, as much as I want a guy like Chris Olave in the 1st, it’s going to be a lot easier to get a complementary Z-receiver on day two than it will be a plug and play starting LT.
This is what I've been saying...

No one wants to move Ramczyk (his first, rookie game he played LT AT Minnesota) and was outstanding; but I'd much rather get a dominant Offensive line in place...

We've got money and years committed to Michael Thomas at WRx/WR1, why spend a first round pick on another WRx/WR1 that you won't be able to afford in four/five years?!?

Major and Chris are right to bang the drum for better complementary receivers, but get those guys on Day 2 and 3...

Other side of the coin, we've got a lot of money committed to Kamara, get that offensive line full of MidWest farm boys who can open running lanes, shut down pass rushers...

The Draft Picks and Salary Cap have to be in congruent to one another...

AsylumGuido 03-27-2022 10:55 AM
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Draft is one month from tomorrow! Jaguars on the clock.

As of my feeling right now, I hope the Saints trade back from 18 and get two later picks in the first/secon somehow end up with three total picks in the first 2 rounds (Two from trading 18 plus their own second rounder). With those three picks in the top 64 I would take WR, T, then highest rated of S, TE, or HB. Then move onto round 3 where they have multiple picks. Anything signed from FA would be gravy then. An OBJ or Landry coming in as a #3 WR sounds fine to me. So does signing say Melvin Gordon or Kyle Rudolph.

Probably why I’m not employed by any NFL teams
at the moment. 🤔
Trading down would be a first for the Saints during Loomis' tenure. They've traded up fifteen times and never traded down. There could always be a first time I guess.

ChrisXVI 03-27-2022 10:57 AM
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I kinda have that feeling too, but Major has brought up good points about getting that stud WR as well. It’s a tough choice. We’ve had some “misses” with first round Oline picks in recent years. Only no 1 WR taken recently was Cooks and he wasn’t terrible.
Yeah often times I see people say “It’s a deep WR class so we can wait until day two” but why not take the stud WR if he’s there in the first? I’m ok with doing that.

The issue I’m running into doing mock drafts is that there are only four plug and play starting LT’s: Evan Neal, Ickey Ekwonu, Charles Cross and Trevor Penning. After that you have guys that you’re projecting and hoping on their development like Bernhard Raimann, Tyler Smith and Nick Petit-Frere.

jeanpierre 03-27-2022 10:58 AM
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jeanpierre 03-27-2022 11:00 AM
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jeanpierre 03-27-2022 11:01 AM
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jeanpierre 03-27-2022 11:02 AM
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Geezhus...

jeanpierre 03-27-2022 11:03 AM
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jeanpierre 03-27-2022 11:07 AM
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AsylumGuido 03-27-2022 11:18 AM
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No, thank you.

jeanpierre 03-27-2022 11:45 AM
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Mel Kiper says...

Lord_Saint83 03-27-2022 11:57 AM
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Mel has been off outside of the top ten, which I and most can predict, for a few years now. And I don’t think he’s been right with our pick for a while now. We love throwing curve balls

Boston Saint 03-27-2022 12:05 PM
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That’s nuts! Expect them to take two of the top WRs off the board!

jeanpierre 03-27-2022 03:46 PM
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lee909 03-27-2022 04:26 PM
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Some nice picks but always find these numbers pretty pointless. Especially when 3 picks are 7th rounders and 1 a 5th. Anything after the 4th is pretty much a shot in the dark.

shawnkytonk 03-28-2022 01:04 AM
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It won't be pretty next year if we stay at 18 and take a QB.

jeanpierre 03-28-2022 07:59 AM
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jeanpierre 03-28-2022 08:02 AM
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jeanpierre 03-28-2022 08:13 AM
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Boston Saint 03-28-2022 08:21 AM
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Some nice picks but always find these numbers pretty pointless. Especially when 3 picks are 7th rounders and 1 a 5th. Anything after the 4th is pretty much a shot in the dark.
True, but still 4 picks in the top 60 is nice. After losing their big threat WR and resigning Rodgers they will take 2 top WRs in those 4 picks is my guess. Might make the Saints go WR in first rather than wait until later.


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