If it's an inhouse hire those ducks will have been getting into formation over the past month. I know they had a full presence at the Senior bowl this past week with the front office, coaching staff, and scouting department all there en masse.

And now back to sports.....threads like this are the reason I only have 1645 posts since 2002.

This is what a rational, logical debate between two people with respect for each others' opinion looks like.

Feel free to make post #1646 about something more substantive yourself.

Agreed. People have to stop being so uncomfortable talking about racial issues. This country was founded on racial issues. This is 400 years of culture. This is embedded into the very fabric of American society. It’s pretty arrogant to assume we’d have worked through all that in 50 years.

Wrong. This country was founded on Freedom not racial. Discrimiation has been in every country since man's greed for power and will continue because there is (always) some greedy bastard out there. Wars over land, gold, oil, diamonds or whatever a greedy person with enough of an army could take from another that was conquered has paid the price enslaving those that were conquered. As far as slavery goes all races, black, white, yellow have endured throughout time. It's just how things have been and to think that it will ever stop is not thinking clearly, still goes on today. Trying to sell it over and over makes it worst, which many do for money and power alone without (true) regret over any race. I've never owned a person(slave of any race) and don't know of anyone that has or ever will and to be put into position to keep on hearing about it time after time after time leaves a bad taste in many peoples mouth along with mine. So if it's equality (anyone) seeks, not gonna happen, nothing is ever equal.

Agreed. People have to stop being so uncomfortable talking about racial issues. This country was founded on racial issues. This is 400 years of culture. This is embedded into the very fabric of American society. It’s pretty arrogant to assume we’d have worked through all that in 50 years.

You’ve got good points rez, But every civilization/ country was founded along racial issues in some way. Ancient Egypt enslaved Jews. Japanese and Chinese cultures have always had strife of wars and slavery. So has the middle east. Ancient African, South, Central and North American peoples routinely fought and enslaved each other. It’s not a unique thing so deeply embedded here as you think. This is the only country to fight an internal civil war to stop slavery. It by far is the country in the world with the most variety of races and cultures living peacefully under one flag. I had a good friend I worked with from Ethiopia who won a lottery to be able to leave his country and move here. He told me once he cries when he hears people talk about how racist this country is because “people here have no f***ing clue what real racism and oppression is”. The stories he told me about living and escaping life there turned my stomach. People from around the world risk their lives to come here. How can it be a monstrously racist place if that is so?

I think too much is made of the evils of the past and tearing the country down rather than celebrate, appreciate, and build off of the progress America has made. The NFL has made more black millionaires than any other business in the history of the world. If the league is racist it Doesn’t sound like they are doing a very good job.

You’ve got good points rez, But every civilization/ country was founded along racial issues in some way. Ancient Egypt enslaved Jews. Japanese and Chinese cultures have always had strife of wars and slavery. So has the middle east. Ancient African, South, Central and North American peoples routinely fought and enslaved each other. It’s not a unique thing so deeply embedded here as you think. This is the only country to fight an internal civil war to stop slavery. It by far is the country in the world with the most variety of races and cultures living peacefully under one flag. I had a good friend I worked with from Ethiopia who won a lottery to be able to leave his country and move here. He told me once he cries when he hears people talk about how racist this country is because “people here have no f***ing clue what real racism and oppression is”. The stories he told me about living and escaping life there turned my stomach. People from around the world risk their lives to come here. How can it be a monstrously racist place if that is so?

I think too much is made of the evils of the past and tearing the country down rather than celebrate, appreciate, and build off of the progress America has made. The NFL has made more black millionaires than any other business in the history of the world. If the league is racist it Doesn’t sound like they are doing a very good job.