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AsylumGuido 02-01-2022 03:50 PM

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Might affect his chances for the Saints job. Ya think?

saintfan 02-01-2022 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 943546)
Might affect his chances for the Saints job. Ya think?

Tread lightly race baiter...

bobdog86 02-01-2022 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 943546)
Might affect his chances for the Saints job. Ya think?

unfortunately will probably affect just about any opportunity.... I like him and would take him as coach.

AsylumGuido 02-01-2022 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 943551)
unfortunately will probably affect just about any opportunity.... I like him and would take him as coach.

Yup. That's exactly what I was saying. He mentioned it himself saying that this might cost him his coaching career. This is far too much of a distraction for any hiring team to take on.

Edit: RGIII thinks so, too.


neugey 02-01-2022 05:24 PM

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So I guess it's Tom Flores then?

TheOak 02-02-2022 06:10 AM

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A lot of heavily biased comments but lets roll them up and understand the implications. Everyone is still trying to win with the cards in their hand but ignoring the deck.

Allen Gets the Job:
- You have lost the focus of your DC.
- People go with what they know and Dennis Allen will go with Sean Payton's offense, unless you prefer he go with the less than .300 win rate offense he used when he was a HC. Continuity is not always a good thing.
- You have not gained an OC to replace what Sean Payton brought to the table.
- We do not have weapons except for Kamara and need a QB and Wide Receivers. Not a single free agent playing those positions that has visited New Orleans in the past years, visited because they wanted to play for Dennis Allen. Dennis Allen as HC is not going to attract any of the notable offensive free agents that we need (don't bring up cap that is a different discussion and we know how that is played). You noticed how interest decayed after Brees left? Allen will be a desert of interest.
- We had two people worthy of the title 'able to develop a QB', they are both gone and that's a piece this puzzle needs filled. It is not Dennis Allen.

Allen Does not get the job:
- Allen might leave. Well, if he leaves New Orleans or leaves the DC position his focus on the defense is lost.
- Allen might stay. ZERO teams are presently offering him a HC job (maybe the Saints), he would be a moron to leave New Orleans to be a DC starting over somewhere else.
- A new HC might replace Allen, well if you make him HC you have replaced him as DC. Any new HC that would immediately replace Dennis Allen as DC considering our defensive performance in 2021 and having a TOP 5 defense two years in a row is a HC we do not want and can join Allen in the 'would be a moron' box.


We all debate how things should change but we all silently agree that things need to change. Promoting Allen to HC would be the first step in keeping things the same. :bng:

Having been born and raised in Louisiana I feel comfortable in saying this. Louisianans hold on to broken sh1t way too long, they beat their fists for change but cant stomach what it takes to make those changes.

stickman 02-02-2022 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 943582)
A lot of heavily biased comments but lets roll them up and understand the implications. Everyone is still trying to win with the cards in their hand but ignoring the deck.

Allen Gets the Job:
- You have lost the focus of your DC.
- People go with what they know and Dennis Allen will go with Sean Payton's offense, unless you prefer he go with the less than .300 win rate offense he used when he was a HC. Continuity is not always a good thing.
- You have not gained an OC to replace what Sean Payton brought to the table.
- We do not have weapons except for Kamara and need a QB and Wide Receivers. Not a single free agent playing those positions that has visited New Orleans in the past years, visited because they wanted to play for Dennis Allen. Dennis Allen as HC is not going to attract any of the notable offensive free agents that we need (don't bring up cap that is a different discussion and we know how that is played). You noticed how interest decayed after Brees left? Allen will be a desert of interest.
- We had two people worthy of the title 'able to develop a QB', they are both gone and that's a piece this puzzle needs filled. It is not Dennis Allen.

Allen Does not get the job:
- Allen might leave. Well, if he leaves New Orleans or leaves the DC position his focus on the defense is lost.
- Allen might stay. ZERO teams are presently offering him a HC job (maybe the Saints), he would be a moron to leave New Orleans to be a DC starting over somewhere else.
- A new HC might replace Allen, well if you make him HC you have replaced him as DC. Any new HC that would immediately replace Dennis Allen as DC considering our defensive performance in 2021 and having a TOP 5 defense two years in a row is a HC we do not want and can join Allen in the 'would be a moron' box.


We all debate how things should change but we all silently agree that things need to change. Promoting Allen to HC would be the first step in keeping things the same. :bng:

Having been born and raised in Louisiana I feel comfortable in saying this. Louisianans hold on to broken sh1t way too long, they beat their fists for change but cant stomach what it takes to make those changes.

Agree with you on this Oak. I think he probably leaves if he doesn't get the HC job. Knowing he wanted the job would make it awkward between him and another coach. I still think he gets it, but please Mr. Loomis, do your homework.

SaintGnome 02-02-2022 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 943582)
A lot of heavily biased comments
We all debate how things should change but we all silently agree that things need to change. Promoting Allen to HC would be the first step in keeping things the same. :bng:

Having been born and raised in Louisiana I feel comfortable in saying this. Louisianans hold on to broken sh1t way too long, they beat their fists for change but cant stomach what it takes to make those changes.

Wow, a lot there. EVERYTHING said here is heavily biased that's what we do here. Not sure what NEEDS to be changed. 4 years division winners, winning season last year, narrowly missing the playoffs with all of the adversity (do we really need to relive all that, how do you not acknowledge that?) so yeah I want to hold on to this sh!t.

TheOak 02-02-2022 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintGnome (Post 943587)
Wow, a lot there. EVERYTHING said here is heavily biased that's what we do here. Not sure what NEEDS to be changed. 4 years division winners, winning season last year, narrowly missing the playoffs with all of the adversity (do we really need to relive all that, how do you not acknowledge that?) so yeah I want to hold on to this sh!t.

Now you sound like Guido with all of the drama... Do you know what "everything" means? Irregardless, some people are capable of objective critical assessments.

A critical objective assessment would be taking your "4 years division winners", and recognizing that the statement is moot since both the HC and QB associated are gone. Hell, the HC and QB associated with your 9-8 "winning season" season are gone as well and after Winston got hurt we went 5-6...

K Major 02-02-2022 08:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 943582)

Having been born and raised in Louisiana I feel comfortable in saying this. Louisianans hold on to broken sh1t way too long, they beat their fists for change but cant stomach what it takes to make those changes.

THIS IS SOOOOO TRUE.


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