Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread

SmashMouth · 02-26-2023, 11:09 AM

SmashMouth · 02-26-2023, 11:11 AM

Rugby Saint II · 02-26-2023, 12:57 PM

I'm pretty sure that Marcus Davenport will get to test the market after we offer him a fair market contract. If he takes it and goes somewhere else then we finally get something for him with a compensatory pick. It's not the ideal scenario after using two first round draft picks on him but it's probably the best we can do.

K Major · 02-27-2023, 09:56 AM

Read an article yesterday on the "possibility" of Davenport ending up with Demeco out in Houston. Imagine him turning Marcus D into a 10+-sack DE

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Boy, that would be a terrible look for Dennis Allen.

Rugby Saint II · 02-27-2023, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Read an article yesterday on the "possibility" of Davenport ending up with Demeco out in Houston. Imagine him turning Marcus D into a 10+-sack DE .

Boy, that would be a terrible look for Dennis Allen.

Yes it would. But that may not be the only thing that makes Dennis Allen look terrible. Have you checked out his play calling?

iceshack149 · 02-27-2023, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Read an article yesterday on the "possibility" of Davenport ending up with Demeco out in Houston. Imagine him turning Marcus D into a 10+-sack DE .

Boy, that would be a terrible look for Dennis Allen.

The Saints have had a pretty solid defense since Allen's return. I'm not sure that Davenport having success somewhere else would necessarily reflect poorly on Allen.
That said, I would hate it if he were to become what the Saints and their fans have been expecting for the past few years on a team other than the Saints.

K Major · 02-27-2023, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

The Saints have had a pretty solid defense since Allen's return. I'm not sure that Davenport having success somewhere else would necessarily reflect poorly on Allen.
That said, I would hate it if he were to become what the Saints and their fans have been expecting for the past few years on a team other than the Saints.

I'm speaking in terms of individual production. Is Allen and his staff really getting the most out of these players? I never saw anything new (just a bull rush) in his repertoire over the last 4 years. IMO he looked uninterested at times.

2022 for Marcus was below average.

The lack of consistent production has always looked odd to me.

iceshack149 · 02-27-2023, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm speaking in terms of individual production. Is Allen and his staff really getting the most out of these players? I never saw anything new (just a bull rush) in his repertoire over the last 4 years. IMO he looked uninterested at times.

2022 for Marcus was below average.

The lack of consistent production has always looked odd to me.

I agree. You'd think for a year as important as the last year on his contract he'd perform at a higher level.

Rell&Gold · 02-27-2023, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm speaking in terms of individual production. Is Allen and his staff really getting the most out of these players? I never saw anything new (just a bull rush) in his repertoire over the last 4 years. IMO he looked uninterested at times.

2022 for Marcus was below average.

The lack of consistent production has always looked odd to me.

Highest graded pass rusher on the Saints.

K Major · 02-27-2023, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Highest graded pass rusher on the Saints.

Unfortunately, that's not saying a whole lot on Sundays.

The Saints were dead last in pass rush win rate for 2022.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread I'm pretty sure that Marcus Davenport will get to test the market after we offer him a fair market contract. If he takes it and goes somewhere else then we finally get something for him with a compensatory pick. It's not the ideal scenario after using two first round draft picks on him but it's probably the best we can do.

02-27-2023, 09:56 AM	#234
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,740 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Read an article yesterday on the "possibility" of Davenport ending up with Demeco out in Houston. Imagine him turning Marcus D into a 10+-sack DE . Boy, that would be a terrible look for Dennis Allen. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by K Major Read an article yesterday on the "possibility" of Davenport ending up with Demeco out in Houston. Imagine him turning Marcus D into a 10+-sack DE . Boy, that would be a terrible look for Dennis Allen. Yes it would. But that may not be the only thing that makes Dennis Allen look terrible. Have you checked out his play calling?

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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,339 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by K Major Read an article yesterday on the "possibility" of Davenport ending up with Demeco out in Houston. Imagine him turning Marcus D into a 10+-sack DE . Boy, that would be a terrible look for Dennis Allen. The Saints have had a pretty solid defense since Allen's return. I'm not sure that Davenport having success somewhere else would necessarily reflect poorly on Allen. That said, I would hate it if he were to become what the Saints and their fans have been expecting for the past few years on a team other than the Saints. AsylumGuido likes this.

02-27-2023, 11:10 AM	#237
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,740 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by iceshack149 The Saints have had a pretty solid defense since Allen's return. I'm not sure that Davenport having success somewhere else would necessarily reflect poorly on Allen. That said, I would hate it if he were to become what the Saints and their fans have been expecting for the past few years on a team other than the Saints. I'm speaking in terms of individual production. Is Allen and his staff really getting the most out of these players? I never saw anything new (just a bull rush) in his repertoire over the last 4 years. IMO he looked uninterested at times. 2022 for Marcus was below average. The lack of consistent production has always looked odd to me.

02-27-2023, 12:17 PM	#238
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,339 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by K Major I'm speaking in terms of individual production. Is Allen and his staff really getting the most out of these players? I never saw anything new (just a bull rush) in his repertoire over the last 4 years. IMO he looked uninterested at times. 2022 for Marcus was below average. The lack of consistent production has always looked odd to me. I agree. You'd think for a year as important as the last year on his contract he'd perform at a higher level. K Major likes this.

02-27-2023, 12:22 PM	#239
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by K Major I'm speaking in terms of individual production. Is Allen and his staff really getting the most out of these players? I never saw anything new (just a bull rush) in his repertoire over the last 4 years. IMO he looked uninterested at times. 2022 for Marcus was below average. The lack of consistent production has always looked odd to me. Highest graded pass rusher on the Saints. K Major and Thirty3 like this.

02-27-2023, 12:47 PM	#240
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,740 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Highest graded pass rusher on the Saints. Unfortunately, that's not saying a whole lot on Sundays. The Saints were dead last in pass rush win rate for 2022. iceshack149 and SmashMouth like this.