Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread

K Major · 02-27-2023, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

The Saints have had a pretty solid defense since Allen's return. I'm not sure that Davenport having success somewhere else would necessarily reflect poorly on Allen.
That said, I would hate it if he were to become what the Saints and their fans have been expecting for the past few years on a team other than the Saints.

I'm speaking in terms of individual production. Is Allen and his staff really getting the most out of these players? I never saw anything new (just a bull rush) in his repertoire over the last 4 years. IMO he looked uninterested at times.

2022 for Marcus was below average.

The lack of consistent production has always looked odd to me.

iceshack149 · 02-27-2023, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm speaking in terms of individual production. Is Allen and his staff really getting the most out of these players? I never saw anything new (just a bull rush) in his repertoire over the last 4 years. IMO he looked uninterested at times.

2022 for Marcus was below average.

The lack of consistent production has always looked odd to me.

I agree. You'd think for a year as important as the last year on his contract he'd perform at a higher level.

Rell&Gold · 02-27-2023, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I'm speaking in terms of individual production. Is Allen and his staff really getting the most out of these players? I never saw anything new (just a bull rush) in his repertoire over the last 4 years. IMO he looked uninterested at times.

2022 for Marcus was below average.

The lack of consistent production has always looked odd to me.

Highest graded pass rusher on the Saints.

K Major · 02-27-2023, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

Highest graded pass rusher on the Saints.

Unfortunately, that's not saying a whole lot on Sundays.

The Saints were dead last in pass rush win rate for 2022.

SmashMouth · 02-27-2023, 01:51 PM

AsylumGuido · 02-28-2023, 07:45 AM

Perhaps that safety need is already in house.

AsylumGuido · 02-28-2023, 08:33 AM

The spells it out fairly well.

SmashMouth · 02-28-2023, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The spells it out fairly well.

https://twitter.com/JohnJHendrix/sta...72012451123202

Errr.... we need somebody to take Popeyes Sammich Peat's place.

AsylumGuido · 02-28-2023, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Errr.... we need somebody to take Popeyes Sammich Peat's place.

We have Hurst. He's more than capable. We should, of course, look to add regardless, but as the article points out it IS one of our least needy areas. What we need there is simply health for the unit to be one of the very best in the league. If Peat could remain healthy himself he's shown he can be a very good LG.

K Major · 02-28-2023, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Errr.... we need somebody to take Popeyes Sammich Peat's place.

China doll. His reliability is worse than Teron Armstead.

Constantly being hobbled and you can't count up games played.

Edit - I looked it up

. Played 11 games in 2022 & 6 in 2021.

2023 cap hit: 18,371,000.

Savings if released before June 1 - $1,387,000
Savings if released after June 1 - $11,825,000

02-27-2023, 11:10 AM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,739 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by iceshack149 The Saints have had a pretty solid defense since Allen's return. I'm not sure that Davenport having success somewhere else would necessarily reflect poorly on Allen. That said, I would hate it if he were to become what the Saints and their fans have been expecting for the past few years on a team other than the Saints. I'm speaking in terms of individual production. Is Allen and his staff really getting the most out of these players? I never saw anything new (just a bull rush) in his repertoire over the last 4 years. IMO he looked uninterested at times. 2022 for Marcus was below average. The lack of consistent production has always looked odd to me.

02-27-2023, 12:17 PM	#2
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,337 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by K Major I'm speaking in terms of individual production. Is Allen and his staff really getting the most out of these players? I never saw anything new (just a bull rush) in his repertoire over the last 4 years. IMO he looked uninterested at times. 2022 for Marcus was below average. The lack of consistent production has always looked odd to me. I agree. You'd think for a year as important as the last year on his contract he'd perform at a higher level.

02-27-2023, 12:22 PM	#3
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by K Major I'm speaking in terms of individual production. Is Allen and his staff really getting the most out of these players? I never saw anything new (just a bull rush) in his repertoire over the last 4 years. IMO he looked uninterested at times. 2022 for Marcus was below average. The lack of consistent production has always looked odd to me. Highest graded pass rusher on the Saints.

02-27-2023, 12:47 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,739 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Highest graded pass rusher on the Saints. Unfortunately, that's not saying a whole lot on Sundays. The Saints were dead last in pass rush win rate for 2022.

02-27-2023, 01:51 PM	#5
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,479 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Twitter

02-28-2023, 07:45 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Perhaps that safety need is already in house. Twitter

02-28-2023, 08:33 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread The spells it out fairly well. Twitter

02-28-2023, 10:50 AM	#8
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,479 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The spells it out fairly well. https://twitter.com/JohnJHendrix/sta...72012451123202 Errr.... we need somebody to take Popeyes Sammich Peat's place.

02-28-2023, 11:11 AM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by SmashMouth Errr.... we need somebody to take Popeyes Sammich Peat's place. We have Hurst. He's more than capable. We should, of course, look to add regardless, but as the article points out it IS one of our least needy areas. What we need there is simply health for the unit to be one of the very best in the league. If Peat could remain healthy himself he's shown he can be a very good LG.

02-28-2023, 11:21 AM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,739 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2023 OFFSEASON Thread Originally Posted by SmashMouth Errr.... we need somebody to take Popeyes Sammich Peat's place. China doll. His reliability is worse than Teron Armstead. Constantly being hobbled and you can't count up games played. Edit - I looked it up . Played 11 games in 2022 & 6 in 2021. 2023 cap hit: 18,371,000. Savings if released before June 1 - $1,387,000 Savings if released after June 1 - $11,825,000