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The 2023 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And who's to say that any players drafted with those picks would be any better than what we already have as developmental players at those positions? As someone else pointed out here finding quality offensive line ...

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Old 08-16-2023, 12:12 PM   #161
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And who's to say that any players drafted with those picks would be any better than what we already have as developmental players at those positions? As someone else pointed out here finding quality offensive line depth isn't as easy as it is made out to be. I'm not saying it wouldn't be great. What I am saying is that they don't just grow on trees.

Here's what we have now. We usually keep nine on the 53 man roster and a couple on the practice squad.

LT70Penning, Trevor 22/167Young, Landon 21/666Kidd, Lewis CF22    
LG75Peat, Andrus 15/174HURST, JAMES CC/Bal62Kraemer, Tommy U/Det    
C78McCoy, Erik 19/273GARCIA, MAX U/Arz65Pihlstrom, Alex CF23    
RG51Ruiz, Cesar 20/164Saldiveri, Nick 23/476Throckmorton, Calvin CF2061Filiaga, Chuck W/GB  
RT71Ramczyk, Ryan 17/172Norton, Storm U/LAC68Evans II, Mark CF23    
Then we traded for or drafted the wrong players.
Davenport
Tommy Stevens
Adam Trautman
Zach Baun
Ian Book
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Old 08-16-2023, 12:36 PM   #162
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Then we traded for or drafted the wrong players.
Davenport
Tommy Stevens
Adam Trautman
Zach Baun
Ian Book
Baun actually looked good this past weekend. He made some splash plays.

That said, why would we think any offensive lineman drafted instead of any of those players would eventually turn out any better than what we currently have to work with this camp? Once again, it all comes down to health. There isn't a team in the league with enough quality depth to not struggle with losing two or three starting offensive linemen. Not even the mighty "Feagles".

It seems there are only so many humans alive that have the ability and desire to be a great offensive lineman. I would love it if we had a full compliment of nine of them to start the season. But, like you, I have no idea how to go about that.

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Old 08-16-2023, 03:30 PM   #163
 
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Then we traded for or drafted the wrong players.
Davenport
Tommy Stevens
Adam Trautman
Zach Baun
Ian Book
Out of that list, Davenport is the one hurts the most since he cost two number ones in essence.
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Old 08-16-2023, 03:35 PM   #164
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Out of that list, Davenport is the one hurts the most since he cost two number ones in essence.
Doesn't hurt anymore. Water under the bridge. Woulda', coulda', shoulda' has no impact on anything moving forward.
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Out of that list, Davenport is the one hurts the most since he cost two number ones in essence.
Indeed.
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Old 08-16-2023, 04:31 PM   #166
 
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Out of that list, Davenport is the one hurts the most since he cost two number ones in essence.
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Doesn't hurt anymore. Water under the bridge. Woulda', coulda', shoulda' has no impact on anything moving forward.
It's the very same argument. Historically, no player other than a very few handful are worth two number ones in a move up situation in the draft. Yes, Mahomes is one of those rare exceptions. Ingram's career was good, but still not worth two ones, arguably. I expect us to witness this very same argument play out with the former QB from Bama.

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Old 08-16-2023, 05:16 PM   #167
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It's the very same argument. Historically, no player other than a very few handful are worth two number ones in a move up situation in the draft. Yes, Mahomes is one of those rare exceptions. Ingram's career was good, but still not worth two ones, arguably. I expect us to witness this very same argument play out with the former QB from Bama.
Then again, you have numerous number ones that have been selected that were busts on a single pick. It all comes back around to doing what you think as management is the best move at the time. Nobody knows how it's going to turn out in the long run and by then it no longer matters.
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Out of that list, Davenport is the one hurts the most since he cost two number ones in essence.
*Lamar Jackson
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Updated Ourlads Depth Chart as of 6:36 PM, August 15th.


OFFENSE


LWR13THOMAS, MICHAEL 16/218Kirkwood, Keith CF1811Edwards, Bryan SF2388Davis, Shaquan CF23  
RWR12Olave, Chris 22/117Perry, A.T. 23/615Baker, Kawaan 21/785Kirklin, Jontre SF23  
SWR22Shaheed, Rashid CF2210Smith, Tre'Quan 18/384Bowden, Lynn SF23    
LT70Penning, Trevor 22/167Young, Landon 21/666Kidd, Lewis CF22    
LG75Peat, Andrus 15/174HURST, JAMES CC/Bal62Kraemer, Tommy U/Det    
C78McCoy, Erik 19/273GARCIA, MAX U/Arz65Pihlstrom, Alex CF23    
RG51Ruiz, Cesar 20/164Saldiveri, Nick 23/476Throckmorton, Calvin CF2061Filiaga, Chuck W/GB  
RT71Ramczyk, Ryan 17/172Norton, Storm U/LAC68Evans II, Mark CF23    
TE83Johnson, Juwan CF2082Moreau, Foster U/LV7HILL, TAYSOM W/GB80GRAHAM, JIMMY 10/387Krull, Lucas CF22
TE      81James, Jesse U/Cle86Holtz, J.P. U/Chi
QB4CARR, DEREK CC/LV2Winston, Jameis U/TB14Haener, Jake 23/4    
RB30Williams, Jamaal U/Det25Miller, Kendre 23/333Merritt, Kirk SF2235Merriweather, Ellis CF2334Williams, Darrel U/Arz
FB46Prentice, Adam W/Den47Bargas, Jake SF23      

DEFENSE

LDE94JORDAN, CAMERON 11/192Kpassagnon, Tanoh U/KC54Lalos, Niko SF2291Phillips, Kyle U/NYJ  
LDT93Shepherd, Nathan U/NYJ90Bresee, Bryan 23/195Heflin, Jack SF23    
RDT99Saunders, Khalen U/KC97Roach, Malcolm CF2057Emili, Prince SF2277Cage, Jerron CF23  
RDE96Granderson, Carl CF1955Foskey, Isaiah 23/298Turner, Payton 21/1    
WLB20Werner, Pete 21/245Sewell, Nephi CF2258Orji, Anfernee CF23    
MLB56DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ52Jackson, D'Marco 22/542Summers, Ty P/Jax40Anderson, Nick CF23  
SLB53Baun, Zack 20/359Smith, Jaylon U/NYG43Connelly, Ryan SF23    
LCB1Taylor, Alontae 22/229Adebo, Paulson 21/337Pride Jr., Troy SF2336Johnson, Anthony CF23  
SS6Maye, Marcus U/NYJ31Howden, Jordan 23/524Abram, Johnathan U/Sea    
FS32MATHIEU, TYRANN U/KC48Gray, J.T. CF1838Monday, Smoke CF22    
RCB23Lattimore, Marshon 17/127Yiadom, Isaac SF2244Frye, Adrian CF23    
NB21ROBY, BRADLEY T/Hou28Johnson Jr., Lonnie U/Ten00Amadi, Ugo SF23    

SPECIAL TEAMS

PT5Gillikin, Blake CF2039HEDLEY, LOU CF23      
PK3Lutz, Wil SF1619Grupe, Blake CF23      
LS49WOOD, ZACH SF17        
H5Gillikin, Blake CF2039HEDLEY, LOU CF23      
KO3Lutz, Wil SF1619Grupe, Blake CF23      
PR22Shaheed, Rashid CF22        
KR22Shaheed, Rashid CF22        

RESERVES

RES41Kamara, Alvin SUS26Benjamin, Eno IR59TURNER, TRAI IR50Dowell, Andrew IR61Lashley, Scott IR

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Old 08-17-2023, 01:18 PM   #170
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I thought that the Davenport was a good trade and believed he would earn his draft status. But we didn't see his injuries mounting up and shutting down a promising career. A promising QB may be worth two first round picks but rarely has it worked out for us. MI was good but not great. Which, is what I want from two first round draft picks.
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