The 2023 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread

Boston Saint · 08-14-2023, 08:50 PM

Well, looking at his career stats his YPC isn’t great. However he has either a TD or first down on 34% of his carries for his career. That’s higher than Kamara or Delvin Cook. So maybe he’s become a short yardage/goal line specialist.

(Looking for the silver lining).

saintsfan1976 · 08-15-2023, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And where do we find them? Every team in the league needs more offensive linemen. Half the teams in the league don't even have five that you can call solid starter level. I'm not saying our current depth is anything special, but are there free agents out there right now that are better than what we have?

Here's a list on spotrac.com of the available free agent offensive linemen. Most of them are in their 30's. Even 40's.

Finding O lineman is not my responsibility.

But recent draft trades that didn't pay off could've been better spent on O line depth.

AsylumGuido · 08-15-2023, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Finding O lineman is not my responsibility.

But recent draft trades that didn't pay off could've been better spent on O line depth.

And who's to say that any players drafted with those picks would be any better than what we already have as developmental players at those positions? As someone else pointed out here finding quality offensive line depth isn't as easy as it is made out to be. I'm not saying it wouldn't be great. What I am saying is that they don't just grow on trees.

Here's what we have now. We usually keep nine on the 53 man roster and a couple on the practice squad.

LT	70	Penning, Trevor 22/1	67	Young, Landon 21/6	66	Kidd, Lewis CF22
LG	75	Peat, Andrus 15/1	74	HURST, JAMES CC/Bal	62	Kraemer, Tommy U/Det
C	78	McCoy, Erik 19/2	73	GARCIA, MAX U/Arz	65	Pihlstrom, Alex CF23
RG	51	Ruiz, Cesar 20/1	64	Saldiveri, Nick 23/4	76	Throckmorton, Calvin CF20	61	Filiaga, Chuck W/GB
RT	71	Ramczyk, Ryan 17/1	72	Norton, Storm U/LAC	68	Evans II, Mark CF23

AsylumGuido · 08-15-2023, 12:33 PM

Updated Ourlads Depth Chart as of 5:26 PM, August 14th.

OFFENSE

LWR	13	THOMAS, MICHAEL 16/2	18	Kirkwood, Keith CF18	11	Edwards, Bryan SF23	88	Davis, Shaquan CF23
RWR	12	Olave, Chris 22/1	17	Perry, A.T. 23/6	15	Baker, Kawaan 21/7	85	Kirklin, Jontre SF23
SWR	22	Shaheed, Rashid CF22	10	Smith, Tre'Quan 18/3	89	Washington, James SF23	84	Bowden, Lynn SF23
LT	70	Penning, Trevor 22/1	67	Young, Landon 21/6	66	Kidd, Lewis CF22
LG	75	Peat, Andrus 15/1	74	HURST, JAMES CC/Bal	62	Kraemer, Tommy U/Det
C	78	McCoy, Erik 19/2	73	GARCIA, MAX U/Arz	65	Pihlstrom, Alex CF23
RG	51	Ruiz, Cesar 20/1	64	Saldiveri, Nick 23/4	76	Throckmorton, Calvin CF20	61	Filiaga, Chuck W/GB
RT	71	Ramczyk, Ryan 17/1	72	Norton, Storm U/LAC	68	Evans II, Mark CF23
TE	83	Johnson, Juwan CF20	82	Moreau, Foster U/LV	7	HILL, TAYSOM W/GB	80	GRAHAM, JIMMY 10/3	87	Krull, Lucas CF22
TE							81	James, Jesse U/Cle	86	Holtz, J.P. U/Chi
QB	4	CARR, DEREK CC/LV	2	Winston, Jameis U/TB	14	Haener, Jake 23/4
RB	30	Williams, Jamaal U/Det	25	Miller, Kendre 23/3	33	Merritt, Kirk SF22	35	Merriweather, Ellis CF23		Williams, Darrel U/Arz
FB	46	Prentice, Adam W/Den	47	Bargas, Jake SF23

DEFENSE

LDE	94	JORDAN, CAMERON 11/1	92	Kpassagnon, Tanoh U/KC	54	Lalos, Niko SF22	91	Phillips, Kyle U/NYJ
LDT	93	Shepherd, Nathan U/NYJ	90	Bresee, Bryan 23/1	95	Heflin, Jack SF23
RDT	99	Saunders, Khalen U/KC	97	Roach, Malcolm CF20	57	Emili, Prince SF22	77	Cage, Jerron CF23
RDE	96	Granderson, Carl CF19	55	Foskey, Isaiah 23/2	98	Turner, Payton 21/1
WLB	20	Werner, Pete 21/2	45	Sewell, Nephi CF22	58	Orji, Anfernee CF23
MLB	56	DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ	52	Jackson, D'Marco 22/5	42	Summers, Ty P/Jax	40	Anderson, Nick CF23
SLB	53	Baun, Zack 20/3	59	Smith, Jaylon U/NYG	43	Connelly, Ryan SF23
LCB	1	Taylor, Alontae 22/2	29	Adebo, Paulson 21/3	37	Pride Jr., Troy SF23	36	Johnson, Anthony CF23
SS	6	Maye, Marcus U/NYJ	31	Howden, Jordan 23/5	24	Abram, Johnathan U/Sea
FS	32	MATHIEU, TYRANN U/KC	48	Gray, J.T. CF18	38	Monday, Smoke CF22
RCB	23	Lattimore, Marshon 17/1	27	Yiadom, Isaac SF22	44	Frye, Adrian CF23
NB	21	ROBY, BRADLEY T/Hou	28	Johnson Jr., Lonnie U/Ten	00	Amadi, Ugo SF23

SPECIAL TEAMS

PT	5	Gillikin, Blake CF20	39	HEDLEY, LOU CF23
PK	3	Lutz, Wil SF16	19	Grupe, Blake CF23
LS	49	WOOD, ZACH SF17
H	5	Gillikin, Blake CF20	39	HEDLEY, LOU CF23
KO	3	Lutz, Wil SF16	19	Grupe, Blake CF23
PR	22	Shaheed, Rashid CF22
KR	22	Shaheed, Rashid CF22

RESERVES

RES

41

Kamara, Alvin SUS

26

Benjamin, Eno IR

59

TURNER, TRAI IR

50

Dowell, Andrew IR

61

Lashley, Scott IR

Rugby Saint II · 08-15-2023, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Finding O lineman is not my responsibility.

But recent draft trades that didn't pay off could've been better spent on O line depth.

Don't be surprised to see us use one of our second round picks on another OL next year. We've invested a lot in the OL and the return has been subpar.

Penning is nasty and is a true road grader.
Hurst is going to be a better guard between Penning and McCoy than Peat.
McCoy blocks well on the line and out in space.
Ruiz is the biggest surprise to me. He has a good punch and uses really good leverage.
Ram is Ram. Hobbled but dominant and still gets out to block down field well.

Peat is well,.....

Saldiveri looks promising.
The rest are questionable. Yeah. Yeah. What do you expect from depth players? Yada. Yada. Yada.

Boston Saint · 08-15-2023, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Don't be surprised to see us use one of our second round picks on another OL next year. We've invested a lot in the OL and the return has been subpar.

Penning is nasty and is a true road grader.
Hurst is going to be a better guard between Penning and McCoy than Peat.
McCoy blocks well on the line and out in space.
Ruiz is the biggest surprise to me. He has a good punch and uses really good leverage.
Ram is Ram. Hobbled but dominant and still gets out to block down field well.

Peat is well,.....
Saldiveri looks promising.
The rest are questionable. Yeah. Yeah. What do you expect from depth players? Yada. Yada. Yada.

We’ve invested pretty high in the D line too with mixed success. Take away Jordan then you have guys like Turner and Davenport that were misses too. Foskey and Bresee are wait and sees.

AsylumGuido · 08-15-2023, 03:57 PM

James Washington is the first causality of the deep WR corps it appears. It will at least give him somewhere else to catch on. Classy move to let him go early enough to give him a better chance elsewhere. Also the balance sheet move to the Darrel Williams signing.

SmashMouth · 08-15-2023, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

James Washington is the first causality of the deep WR corps it appears. It will at least give him somewhere else to catch on. Classy move to let him go early enough to give him a better chance elsewhere. Also the balance sheet move to the Darrel Williams signing.

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/...52935832866960

https://twitter.com/brookechesney/st...52108523438262

AT Perry made him expendable ...

K Major · 08-15-2023, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

AT Perry made him expendable ...

Or maybe not showing enough effort to come back for the ball on that Haener INT.

But yeah, these positional coaches see (Perry is hungry) it all in the film room so there's that.

AsylumGuido · 08-15-2023, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Or maybe not showing enough effort to come back for the ball on that Haener INT.

But yeah, these positional coaches see (Perry is hungry) it all in the film room so there's that.

Yeah, even Brees called him out on that.

08-14-2023, 08:50 PM	#151
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: The 2023 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread Well, looking at his career stats his YPC isn’t great. However he has either a TD or first down on 34% of his carries for his career. That’s higher than Kamara or Delvin Cook. So maybe he’s become a short yardage/goal line specialist. (Looking for the silver lining). SmashMouth likes this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,806 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The 2023 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And where do we find them? Every team in the league needs more offensive linemen. Half the teams in the league don't even have five that you can call solid starter level. I'm not saying our current depth is anything special, but are there free agents out there right now that are better than what we have? Here's a list on spotrac.com of the available free agent offensive linemen. Most of them are in their 30's. Even 40's. Finding O lineman is not my responsibility. But recent draft trades that didn't pay off could've been better spent on O line depth. Rsanders24, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Re: The 2023 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Finding O lineman is not my responsibility. But recent draft trades that didn't pay off could've been better spent on O line depth. Don't be surprised to see us use one of our second round picks on another OL next year. We've invested a lot in the OL and the return has been subpar. Penning is nasty and is a true road grader. Hurst is going to be a better guard between Penning and McCoy than Peat. McCoy blocks well on the line and out in space. Ruiz is the biggest surprise to me. He has a good punch and uses really good leverage. Ram is Ram. Hobbled but dominant and still gets out to block down field well. Peat is well,..... Saldiveri looks promising. The rest are questionable. Yeah. Yeah. What do you expect from depth players? Yada. Yada. Yada. saintsfan1976 and Boston Saint like this.
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08-15-2023, 03:27 PM	#156
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: The 2023 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Don't be surprised to see us use one of our second round picks on another OL next year. We've invested a lot in the OL and the return has been subpar. Penning is nasty and is a true road grader. Hurst is going to be a better guard between Penning and McCoy than Peat. McCoy blocks well on the line and out in space. Ruiz is the biggest surprise to me. He has a good punch and uses really good leverage. Ram is Ram. Hobbled but dominant and still gets out to block down field well. Peat is well,..... Saldiveri looks promising. The rest are questionable. Yeah. Yeah. What do you expect from depth players? Yada. Yada. Yada. We’ve invested pretty high in the D line too with mixed success. Take away Jordan then you have guys like Turner and Davenport that were misses too. Foskey and Bresee are wait and sees.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29	Re: The 2023 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread Originally Posted by AsylumGuido James Washington is the first causality of the deep WR corps it appears. It will at least give him somewhere else to catch on. Classy move to let him go early enough to give him a better chance elsewhere. Also the balance sheet move to the Darrel Williams signing. https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/...52935832866960 https://twitter.com/brookechesney/st...52108523438262 AT Perry made him expendable ...

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,588 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The 2023 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread Originally Posted by SmashMouth AT Perry made him expendable ... Or maybe not showing enough effort to come back for the ball on that Haener INT. But yeah, these positional coaches see (Perry is hungry) it all in the film room so there's that. AsylumGuido and SmashMouth like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,044	Re: The 2023 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread Originally Posted by K Major Or maybe not showing enough effort to come back for the ball on that Haener INT. But yeah, these positional coaches see (Perry is hungry) it all in the film room so there's that. Yeah, even Brees called him out on that. SmashMouth likes this.