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The 2023 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Well, looking at his career stats his YPC isn’t great. However he has either a TD or first down on 34% of his carries for his career. That’s higher than Kamara or Delvin Cook. So maybe he’s become a short ...

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Old 08-14-2023, 09:50 PM   #151
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Re: The 2023 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread

Well, looking at his career stats his YPC isn’t great. However he has either a TD or first down on 34% of his carries for his career. That’s higher than Kamara or Delvin Cook. So maybe he’s become a short yardage/goal line specialist.

(Looking for the silver lining).
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Old 08-15-2023, 05:48 AM   #152
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And where do we find them? Every team in the league needs more offensive linemen. Half the teams in the league don't even have five that you can call solid starter level. I'm not saying our current depth is anything special, but are there free agents out there right now that are better than what we have?

Here's a list on spotrac.com of the available free agent offensive linemen. Most of them are in their 30's. Even 40's.
Finding O lineman is not my responsibility.

But recent draft trades that didn't pay off could've been better spent on O line depth.
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Old 08-15-2023, 10:01 AM   #153
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Finding O lineman is not my responsibility.

But recent draft trades that didn't pay off could've been better spent on O line depth.
And who's to say that any players drafted with those picks would be any better than what we already have as developmental players at those positions? As someone else pointed out here finding quality offensive line depth isn't as easy as it is made out to be. I'm not saying it wouldn't be great. What I am saying is that they don't just grow on trees.

Here's what we have now. We usually keep nine on the 53 man roster and a couple on the practice squad.

LT70Penning, Trevor 22/167Young, Landon 21/666Kidd, Lewis CF22    
LG75Peat, Andrus 15/174HURST, JAMES CC/Bal62Kraemer, Tommy U/Det    
C78McCoy, Erik 19/273GARCIA, MAX U/Arz65Pihlstrom, Alex CF23    
RG51Ruiz, Cesar 20/164Saldiveri, Nick 23/476Throckmorton, Calvin CF2061Filiaga, Chuck W/GB  
RT71Ramczyk, Ryan 17/172Norton, Storm U/LAC68Evans II, Mark CF23    

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Old 08-15-2023, 01:33 PM   #154
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Updated Ourlads Depth Chart as of 5:26 PM, August 14th.


OFFENSE


LWR13THOMAS, MICHAEL 16/218Kirkwood, Keith CF1811Edwards, Bryan SF2388Davis, Shaquan CF23  
RWR12Olave, Chris 22/117Perry, A.T. 23/615Baker, Kawaan 21/785Kirklin, Jontre SF23  
SWR22Shaheed, Rashid CF2210Smith, Tre'Quan 18/389Washington, James SF2384Bowden, Lynn SF23  
LT70Penning, Trevor 22/167Young, Landon 21/666Kidd, Lewis CF22    
LG75Peat, Andrus 15/174HURST, JAMES CC/Bal62Kraemer, Tommy U/Det    
C78McCoy, Erik 19/273GARCIA, MAX U/Arz65Pihlstrom, Alex CF23    
RG51Ruiz, Cesar 20/164Saldiveri, Nick 23/476Throckmorton, Calvin CF2061Filiaga, Chuck W/GB  
RT71Ramczyk, Ryan 17/172Norton, Storm U/LAC68Evans II, Mark CF23    
TE83Johnson, Juwan CF2082Moreau, Foster U/LV7HILL, TAYSOM W/GB80GRAHAM, JIMMY 10/387Krull, Lucas CF22
TE      81James, Jesse U/Cle86Holtz, J.P. U/Chi
QB4CARR, DEREK CC/LV2Winston, Jameis U/TB14Haener, Jake 23/4    
RB30Williams, Jamaal U/Det25Miller, Kendre 23/333Merritt, Kirk SF2235Merriweather, Ellis CF23 Williams, Darrel U/Arz
FB46Prentice, Adam W/Den47Bargas, Jake SF23      

DEFENSE

LDE94JORDAN, CAMERON 11/192Kpassagnon, Tanoh U/KC54Lalos, Niko SF2291Phillips, Kyle U/NYJ  
LDT93Shepherd, Nathan U/NYJ90Bresee, Bryan 23/195Heflin, Jack SF23    
RDT99Saunders, Khalen U/KC97Roach, Malcolm CF2057Emili, Prince SF2277Cage, Jerron CF23  
RDE96Granderson, Carl CF1955Foskey, Isaiah 23/298Turner, Payton 21/1    
WLB20Werner, Pete 21/245Sewell, Nephi CF2258Orji, Anfernee CF23    
MLB56DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ52Jackson, D'Marco 22/542Summers, Ty P/Jax40Anderson, Nick CF23  
SLB53Baun, Zack 20/359Smith, Jaylon U/NYG43Connelly, Ryan SF23    
LCB1Taylor, Alontae 22/229Adebo, Paulson 21/337Pride Jr., Troy SF2336Johnson, Anthony CF23  
SS6Maye, Marcus U/NYJ31Howden, Jordan 23/524Abram, Johnathan U/Sea    
FS32MATHIEU, TYRANN U/KC48Gray, J.T. CF1838Monday, Smoke CF22    
RCB23Lattimore, Marshon 17/127Yiadom, Isaac SF2244Frye, Adrian CF23    
NB21ROBY, BRADLEY T/Hou28Johnson Jr., Lonnie U/Ten00Amadi, Ugo SF23    

SPECIAL TEAMS

PT5Gillikin, Blake CF2039HEDLEY, LOU CF23      
PK3Lutz, Wil SF1619Grupe, Blake CF23      
LS49WOOD, ZACH SF17        
H5Gillikin, Blake CF2039HEDLEY, LOU CF23      
KO3Lutz, Wil SF1619Grupe, Blake CF23      
PR22Shaheed, Rashid CF22        
KR22Shaheed, Rashid CF22        

RESERVES

RES41Kamara, Alvin SUS26Benjamin, Eno IR59TURNER, TRAI IR50Dowell, Andrew IR61Lashley, Scott IR

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Finding O lineman is not my responsibility.

But recent draft trades that didn't pay off could've been better spent on O line depth.
Don't be surprised to see us use one of our second round picks on another OL next year. We've invested a lot in the OL and the return has been subpar.

Penning is nasty and is a true road grader.
Hurst is going to be a better guard between Penning and McCoy than Peat.
McCoy blocks well on the line and out in space.
Ruiz is the biggest surprise to me. He has a good punch and uses really good leverage.
Ram is Ram. Hobbled but dominant and still gets out to block down field well.

Peat is well,.....
Saldiveri looks promising.
The rest are questionable. Yeah. Yeah. What do you expect from depth players? Yada. Yada. Yada.

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Old 08-15-2023, 04:27 PM   #156
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Don't be surprised to see us use one of our second round picks on another OL next year. We've invested a lot in the OL and the return has been subpar.

Penning is nasty and is a true road grader.
Hurst is going to be a better guard between Penning and McCoy than Peat.
McCoy blocks well on the line and out in space.
Ruiz is the biggest surprise to me. He has a good punch and uses really good leverage.
Ram is Ram. Hobbled but dominant and still gets out to block down field well.

Peat is well,.....
Saldiveri looks promising.
The rest are questionable. Yeah. Yeah. What do you expect from depth players? Yada. Yada. Yada.
We’ve invested pretty high in the D line too with mixed success. Take away Jordan then you have guys like Turner and Davenport that were misses too. Foskey and Bresee are wait and sees.
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Old 08-15-2023, 04:57 PM   #157
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James Washington is the first causality of the deep WR corps it appears. It will at least give him somewhere else to catch on. Classy move to let him go early enough to give him a better chance elsewhere. Also the balance sheet move to the Darrel Williams signing.


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James Washington is the first causality of the deep WR corps it appears. It will at least give him somewhere else to catch on. Classy move to let him go early enough to give him a better chance elsewhere. Also the balance sheet move to the Darrel Williams signing.

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AT Perry made him expendable ...
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AT Perry made him expendable ...
Or maybe not showing enough effort to come back for the ball on that Haener INT.

But yeah, these positional coaches see (Perry is hungry) it all in the film room so there's that.
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Or maybe not showing enough effort to come back for the ball on that Haener INT.

But yeah, these positional coaches see (Perry is hungry) it all in the film room so there's that.
Yeah, even Brees called him out on that.
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