Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers

09-24-2023, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

Grupe makes the kick and everyone would be excited. Yeesh.

He makes that kick and the Packers have over a minute to drive for a field goal of their own. Given our defenses performance over that last quarter, I think Green Bay would have had a shot at their own field goal.

BakoSaint · 09-24-2023, 06:25 PM

Can a team have confidence in any QB if they have no confidence in the oline? Does our oline deserve confidence? If the team seemed to progressively lose confidence in the QB over the course of the game maybe thats because our oline came in with two big liabilities, added a third when Ruiz went down, proved it when the backups struggled, and sealed the doubts when Carr got hurt. I guess we could had a young mobile QB who makes quick decisions and negates all that, but we don't.

Sinner · 09-24-2023, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Can a team have confidence in any QB if they have no confidence in the oline? Does our oline deserve confidence? If the team seemed to progressively lose confidence in the QB over the course of the game maybe thats because our oline came in with two big liabilities, added a third when Ruiz went down, proved it when the backups struggled, and sealed the doubts when Carr got hurt. I guess we could had a young mobile QB who makes quick decisions and negates all that, but we don't.

We don’t.

Rsanders24 · 09-24-2023, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Dennis Allen crapped the bed. Whether or not he called the plays doesn’t matter. He let the oc csll those plays in the 4th. JW does not have the team. Looked like the air was let out when Carr hit hurt and he took over. Defense played good until Green Bay saw #27 on the field. He was abused like a stray dog. 67 out of their 80 yard td drive was PI calls.

You cannot really think the team would not rally around Winston. I haven’t heard or seen any players discredit Winston. I swear y’all act like Winston is out there trying to lose the game. Last season when he beat GB some of y’all still said he didn’t do enough but Carr was completely ineffective in the first half. If GB didn’t give us the short field we probably don’t score that first TD.

Our 4th quarter defense is terrible…11 points last week and 18 this week. That is a recipe for disaster when you have an offense that isn’t capable of putting 2 TD up per game.

BakoSaint · 09-24-2023, 06:47 PM

Report that Carr's injury may not be season ending.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profoo...miss-some-time

K Major · 09-24-2023, 06:50 PM

If you don’t fix the oline, it really doesn’t matter who is under center.

You may recall, in Baldy’s X’s & O’s breakdown vs Carolina, I specifically called out the entire line & saying “I’d rather our guy HOLD than having a breakdown/free release to our QB).

Unfortunately our protection broke down & it may have cost us our QB
for the season. If Dougie Marrone doesn’t get this figured out, Jameis is
going to get blown up as well.

Saints still lead the league in QB sacks allowed 2 straight weeks.

BakoSaint · 09-24-2023, 07:05 PM

Looks like Carr has an AC Joint Sprain. Some players come back from that in 1 week, but probably there are different grades and it could be a few weeks. Problem is he comes back to the same oline and our schedule gets tougher.

Thirty3 · 09-24-2023, 07:14 PM

Gentlemen, the ONLY difference in the first and second half was not the play caller. It was the signal caller.

BakoSaint · 09-24-2023, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Thirty3

Gentlemen, the ONLY difference in the first and second half was not the play caller. It was the signal caller.

Well golly gee I'll be darned. Winston should have called for a punt return TD and a big INT in the second half. What was he thinking?

rezburna · 09-24-2023, 07:20 PM

Sprained AC joint is a relief.

09-24-2023, 06:25 PM	#51
Threaded by stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,680 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo Grupe makes the kick and everyone would be excited. Yeesh. He makes that kick and the Packers have over a minute to drive for a field goal of their own. Given our defenses performance over that last quarter, I think Green Bay would have had a shot at their own field goal. Halo, MatthewT, neugey and 5 others like this.
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09-24-2023, 06:25 PM	#52
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,135	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Can a team have confidence in any QB if they have no confidence in the oline? Does our oline deserve confidence? If the team seemed to progressively lose confidence in the QB over the course of the game maybe thats because our oline came in with two big liabilities, added a third when Ruiz went down, proved it when the backups struggled, and sealed the doubts when Carr got hurt. I guess we could had a young mobile QB who makes quick decisions and negates all that, but we don't. Sinner and Rell&Gold like this.
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09-24-2023, 06:26 PM	#53
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,874	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by BakoSaint Can a team have confidence in any QB if they have no confidence in the oline? Does our oline deserve confidence? If the team seemed to progressively lose confidence in the QB over the course of the game maybe thats because our oline came in with two big liabilities, added a third when Ruiz went down, proved it when the backups struggled, and sealed the doubts when Carr got hurt. I guess we could had a young mobile QB who makes quick decisions and negates all that, but we don't. We don’t.
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09-24-2023, 06:33 PM	#54
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,482	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by voodooido Dennis Allen crapped the bed. Whether or not he called the plays doesn’t matter. He let the oc csll those plays in the 4th. JW does not have the team. Looked like the air was let out when Carr hit hurt and he took over. Defense played good until Green Bay saw #27 on the field. He was abused like a stray dog. 67 out of their 80 yard td drive was PI calls. You cannot really think the team would not rally around Winston. I haven’t heard or seen any players discredit Winston. I swear y’all act like Winston is out there trying to lose the game. Last season when he beat GB some of y’all still said he didn’t do enough but Carr was completely ineffective in the first half. If GB didn’t give us the short field we probably don’t score that first TD. Our 4th quarter defense is terrible…11 points last week and 18 this week. That is a recipe for disaster when you have an offense that isn’t capable of putting 2 TD up per game. darstep, Sinner and Rell&Gold like this.

09-24-2023, 06:47 PM	#55
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09-24-2023, 06:50 PM	#56
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers If you don’t fix the oline, it really doesn’t matter who is under center. You may recall, in Baldy’s X’s & O’s breakdown vs Carolina, I specifically called out the entire line & saying “I’d rather our guy HOLD than having a breakdown/free release to our QB). Unfortunately our protection broke down & it may have cost us our QB for the season. If Dougie Marrone doesn’t get this figured out, Jameis is going to get blown up as well. Saints still lead the league in QB sacks allowed 2 straight weeks. Danno, Rsanders24 and Sinner like this.

09-24-2023, 07:05 PM	#57
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,135	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Looks like Carr has an AC Joint Sprain. Some players come back from that in 1 week, but probably there are different grades and it could be a few weeks. Problem is he comes back to the same oline and our schedule gets tougher.
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09-24-2023, 07:14 PM	#58
Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Gentlemen, the ONLY difference in the first and second half was not the play caller. It was the signal caller.
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09-24-2023, 07:19 PM	#59
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,135	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by Thirty3 Gentlemen, the ONLY difference in the first and second half was not the play caller. It was the signal caller. Well golly gee I'll be darned. Winston should have called for a punt return TD and a big INT in the second half. What was he thinking? neugey, Rsanders24 and K Major like this.
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09-24-2023, 07:20 PM	#60
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Sprained AC joint is a relief. AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and Rell&Gold like this.