Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers

09-24-2023, 08:02 PM

We probably need to bring in a QB for the week. I think it would be interesting to look at some of the Patriots retreads. I don't know what Corral had going on when he left the team but we should look into it. If its excusable, he has upside. Also that Malik guy, a mobile option might be good with our oline. And the Patriots keep making roster moves so maybe they put Zappe back on the practice squad and we can snag him. I would rather one of these options than bring in a known horrible hopeless QB just because they know our system. Also we could use some information on the Patriots and/or Panthers.

SmashMouth · 09-24-2023, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'll be there in the dome as we move to 3-1. Much to your chagrin, I am sure.

Still in number one spot in the NFC South !

K Major · 09-24-2023, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I saw the Miami score. All I can say is f*** Sean Payton
Miami 727 yards of offense. Clinic

Yikes 😳 !

All I remember is him bad mouthing the previous Denver coaching staff publicly this off season.

Miami has playmakers but geesh. That score seemed personal.

I can’t recall any NFL team getting throttled in that manner.

SmashMouth · 09-25-2023, 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I saw the Miami score. All I can say is f*** Sean Payton
Miami 727 yards of offense. Clinic

Originally Posted by K Major

Yikes 😳 !

All I remember is him bad mouthing the previous Denver coaching staff publicly this off season.

Miami has playmakers but geesh. That score seemed personal.

I can’t recall any NFL team getting throttled in that manner.

Cruize · 09-25-2023, 04:31 AM

-Terrible, difference making loss. The Saints were up 17-0 and the better team talent wise. All on the coaching.
-Carr is not a $40 million per year QB. Horrible pocket presence. Forces too many throws.
-Grupe missed the first kick that truly mattered. Not a good sign.
-The OL coach should be fired.
-The OC should be fired.
-With this WR Corp, the Saints shouldn't score under 30.
-The Saints appeared to go to that dreaded prevent defense in the 4th.
-Up 17-0 and 4th and short on the opponents side of the 50, go for it and finish them off.
-Taylor is a better CB than Adebo.
-Jones and Miller looked good.
-Must win vs Tampa.

Rell&Gold · 09-25-2023, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

-Terrible, difference making loss. The Saints were up 17-0 and the better team talent wise. All on the coaching.
-Carr is not a $40 million per year QB. Horrible pocket presence. Forces too many throws.
-Grupe missed the first kick that truly mattered. Not a good sign.
-The OL coach should be fired.
-The OC should be fired.
-With this WR Corp, the Saints shouldn't score under 30.
-The Saints appeared to go to that dreaded prevent defense in the 4th.
-Up 17-0 and 4th and short on the opponents side of the 50, go for it and finish them off.
-Taylor is a better CB than Adebo.
-Jones and Miller looked good.
-Must win vs Tampa.

Agree with everything think Groupe was just nerves probably didn't think he it was going come down to him. Lls probably was thinking naw we got this we're up 17-0 what's worse that can happen. No excuses he should have made it. I think he'll comeback stronger.

Rell&Gold · 09-25-2023, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

-Terrible, difference making loss. The Saints were up 17-0 and the better team talent wise. All on the coaching.
-Carr is not a $40 million per year QB. Horrible pocket presence. Forces too many throws.
-Grupe missed the first kick that truly mattered. Not a good sign.
-The OL coach should be fired.
-The OC should be fired.
-With this WR Corp, the Saints shouldn't score under 30.
-The Saints appeared to go to that dreaded prevent defense in the 4th.
-Up 17-0 and 4th and short on the opponents side of the 50, go for it and finish them off.
-Taylor is a better CB than Adebo.
-Jones and Miller looked good.
-Must win vs Tampa.

Agree with everything think Groupe was just nerves probably didn't think it was going come down to him. Lls probably was thinking naw we got this we're up 17-0 what's worse that can happen. No excuses he should have made it. I think he'll comeback stronger.

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leilung · 09-25-2023, 07:01 AM

Due to "technical difficulties" my ability to watch the last quarter was severely impaired. I have several questions that some of you could answer (without hysteria and hyberbole, but actual observations) that may be able to shed light on this loss for me. Please indulge me.

1) OLine struggles were still evident. What did the line look like after Ruiz went down and did the Carr injury happen as a result of the replacement being keyed on?

2) Inability to simply move the chains seems to be an ongoing theme. Largely, what are the likely culprits- PC's playcalling, Poor execution on all levels of the offense, Packer's D adjusting quicker than our ability to alter, Crowd noise, or some odd combination thereof.

3) Did there look like there was a cohesive plan to move the ball via ground game throughout the game or was it abandoned at some point in favor of throwing the ball downfield? Would AK41's presence have made a significant difference in that plan?

4) Defense got lucky with some dropsies more than a few times early in the game. What happened to the pressure on Love? did they abandon the early game plan (which appeared to be working well) to start dropping back in zone coverage?

Curious as to what some of you saw. Sadly, for some, I can already predict your responses, but surprise me. Let me have them anyway. Thanks!

09-24-2023, 08:02 PM	#71
Threaded by BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,760 Rating: (0 votes - average) We probably need to bring in a QB for the week. I think it would be interesting to look at some of the Patriots retreads. I don't know what Corral had going on when he left the team but we should look into it. If its excusable, he has upside. Also that Malik guy, a mobile option might be good with our oline. And the Patriots keep making roster moves so maybe they put Zappe back on the practice squad and we can snag him. I would rather one of these options than bring in a known horrible hopeless QB just because they know our system. Also we could use some information on the Patriots and/or Panthers.
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09-24-2023, 08:14 PM	#72
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,032 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'll be there in the dome as we move to 3-1. Much to your chagrin, I am sure. Still in number one spot in the NFC South ! AsylumGuido likes this.

09-24-2023, 08:37 PM	#73
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,056 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by TheOak I saw the Miami score. All I can say is f* Sean Payton Miami 727 yards of offense**. Clinic Yikes 😳 ! All I remember is him bad mouthing the previous Denver coaching staff publicly this off season. Miami has playmakers but geesh. That score seemed personal. I can’t recall any NFL team getting throttled in that manner. Sinner and Rell&Gold like this.

09-25-2023, 01:34 AM	#74
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,032 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by TheOak I saw the Miami score. All I can say is f* Sean Payton Miami 727 yards of offense. Clinic Originally Posted by K Major** Yikes 😳 ! All I remember is him bad mouthing the previous Denver coaching staff publicly this off season. Miami has playmakers but geesh. That score seemed personal. I can’t recall any NFL team getting throttled in that manner. Twitter

09-25-2023, 04:31 AM	#75
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,295	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers -Terrible, difference making loss. The Saints were up 17-0 and the better team talent wise. All on the coaching. -Carr is not a $40 million per year QB. Horrible pocket presence. Forces too many throws. -Grupe missed the first kick that truly mattered. Not a good sign. -The OL coach should be fired. -The OC should be fired. -With this WR Corp, the Saints shouldn't score under 30. -The Saints appeared to go to that dreaded prevent defense in the 4th. -Up 17-0 and 4th and short on the opponents side of the 50, go for it and finish them off. -Taylor is a better CB than Adebo. -Jones and Miller looked good. -Must win vs Tampa. Sinner and Rell&Gold like this.
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09-25-2023, 05:32 AM	#76
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,874	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by Cruize -Terrible, difference making loss. The Saints were up 17-0 and the better team talent wise. All on the coaching. -Carr is not a $40 million per year QB. Horrible pocket presence. Forces too many throws. -Grupe missed the first kick that truly mattered. Not a good sign. -The OL coach should be fired. -The OC should be fired. -With this WR Corp, the Saints shouldn't score under 30. -The Saints appeared to go to that dreaded prevent defense in the 4th. -Up 17-0 and 4th and short on the opponents side of the 50, go for it and finish them off. -Taylor is a better CB than Adebo. -Jones and Miller looked good. -Must win vs Tampa. Agree with everything think Groupe was just nerves probably didn't think he it was going come down to him. Lls probably was thinking naw we got this we're up 17-0 what's worse that can happen. No excuses he should have made it. I think he'll comeback stronger. Sinner likes this.

09-25-2023, 05:33 AM	#77
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,874	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Originally Posted by Cruize -Terrible, difference making loss. The Saints were up 17-0 and the better team talent wise. All on the coaching. -Carr is not a $40 million per year QB. Horrible pocket presence. Forces too many throws. -Grupe missed the first kick that truly mattered. Not a good sign. -The OL coach should be fired. -The OC should be fired. -With this WR Corp, the Saints shouldn't score under 30. -The Saints appeared to go to that dreaded prevent defense in the 4th. -Up 17-0 and 4th and short on the opponents side of the 50, go for it and finish them off. -Taylor is a better CB than Adebo. -Jones and Miller looked good. -Must win vs Tampa. Agree with everything think Groupe was just nerves probably didn't think it was going come down to him. Lls probably was thinking naw we got this we're up 17-0 what's worse that can happen. No excuses he should have made it. I think he'll comeback stronger.

09-25-2023, 07:01 AM	#80
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,160	Re: Observations from the Saints Loss to Packers Due to "technical difficulties" my ability to watch the last quarter was severely impaired. I have several questions that some of you could answer (without hysteria and hyberbole, but actual observations) that may be able to shed light on this loss for me. Please indulge me. 1) OLine struggles were still evident. What did the line look like after Ruiz went down and did the Carr injury happen as a result of the replacement being keyed on? 2) Inability to simply move the chains seems to be an ongoing theme. Largely, what are the likely culprits- PC's playcalling, Poor execution on all levels of the offense, Packer's D adjusting quicker than our ability to alter, Crowd noise, or some odd combination thereof. 3) Did there look like there was a cohesive plan to move the ball via ground game throughout the game or was it abandoned at some point in favor of throwing the ball downfield? Would AK41's presence have made a significant difference in that plan? 4) Defense got lucky with some dropsies more than a few times early in the game. What happened to the pressure on Love? did they abandon the early game plan (which appeared to be working well) to start dropping back in zone coverage? Curious as to what some of you saw. Sadly, for some, I can already predict your responses, but surprise me. Let me have them anyway. Thanks!
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