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waste of money.... cut bait. :beatnik:

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Quido's ass licking to be shown directly after. :beatnik:

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A little stupidity as pointed out by Sigler.

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As expected.

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I’d love to have Josh Uche.

He brings consistent pressure off the edge.

Saints need more effective pass rushers badly.

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Well I'm all ears on this one.
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Can he play o-line?

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General Manager. Imagine the guys he'd bring in to try out for the team.

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Talk about some big uglies. :D

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In terms of technique, he is no further from where he needs to be than Trevor Penning, so we could try to coach him up.

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You are a piece of work. A sad one at that. :rolleyes:

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Show your pride man. Buy a Penning jersey and wear it every Sunday. I hear he has a lot of potential, as a fantasy novelist perhaps.

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I'm already showing my pride wearing my Guido Merkens jersey. At least I go to all the games.

Why do you have to show up and start **** when we're enjoying a little light-hearted humor? Get a life other than your obsessive hate driven agenda. Damn! :rolleyes:

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Chargers open to trading defensive standouts Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack, per report

The Saints obtaining either of these guys is likely a pipe dream but I wouldn't be mad if it happened.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/c...ck-per-report/

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You could always just set him to IGNORE… LMFAO

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It’s been a while but didn’t Dennis draft Mack out in Oakland?

Harbaugh is probably going to cut both if he gets no takers in a trade.

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I mean, wasn’t ‘can he play oline’ also a dig at out oline? Its all lighthearted humor to me. Penning is supposed to have a mean streak, so to me a bit of light hearted ribbing from the fans should make a mean guy want to fight more than a bunch of stuart smalley type positive motivation and expectations that the rosies dole out.

If our coaches can fix Penning and keep Ram healthy, I think they are well on their way to Sainthood. If we dont have confidence in divine miracles, we better draft oline.

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The constant fighting is besmirching our beloved site, lads. I know a few posters that have left, hopefully only temporarily, because of it. I would too but like those two gay cowboys I just don't know how to quit this site.

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Okay, I will try to give contrasting takes in a less confrontational manner, and hopefully that wont descend into so much back and forth if everyone can accept that others takes may contrast.

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Me too.

Thanks Bako.

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Ok. The “No Taunting” Rule goes into effect. I hope horse sh*t Memes and Gifs in response to people set to IGNORE will fall under this category.

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Generally I think aging or injury prone players entering the final year or two of a big contract are not smart to trade for. If they are cut, they may be affordable then. Deals are often backloaded where the final year or two only makes sense if the player is currently very healthy and young, and if they are getting very old and having to learn a new system it may have always been a stretch even if they are healthy. Sometimes the final year is slated in to drive up the average and make the agent look good. If the Chargers want to trade Bosa for Lattimore, ok, similar deal and we need Bosa’s position more. But independently, i dont think either is worth much.

I think there is more upside to going with a younger player who had someone blocking them on the depth chart on their previous team or going with someone cheap. Ultimately if Turner has similar talent to Bosa, and both have been injured the last few years, and we have to hope for a miraculous return to health, why not at least bet on the younger cheaper guy return to health if neither is likely? Ok I know Turner has been injured more than Bosa, but maybe Davenport is a better comp. Despite his great past, the last few years Bosa is just a slightly older Davenport.

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Tyler Boyd - WR

You’ll need an experienced replacement for Can’t call Mike.

Boyd is an affordable option.

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Also, go ahead and draft another receiver or two later in the draft since our scouts are really good at finding talent late.

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Now, that is an agenda that I can get behind!:smokin:

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Today's the day!

Who do you want to see in Black & Gold?

What's realistic in your view?

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GIF's and memes have always been a mainstay here at B&G. Especially with cats.

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So has b*tching and moaning about our sucky mismanagement for the past decade. Deal with it.

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Yes, it was a dig at the o-line, in general, including coaching and the unfortunate string of injuries that have raised its ugly head over the past few years. I've stated before that my fandom in "my Saints" has grown quite personal over the past five plus decades. It's faith, family, and Saints for me. I can't help but defend all three. Attacks on individual players, whether in jest or something more intense, just rubs me the wrong way. I'm sorry but that is just the way I am wired. I cannot help but strike back.

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A couple of important PSA's for this time of year.

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Adding another DT in Free Agency wouldn't hurt.

No guarantees Roach returns. Niner - Javon Kinlaw will be out there.

Bresee is a dawg but we need more in the rotation.

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I'm guessing that Kamara is next with the same type of deal as Mathieu and Davis.

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The Demario David extension at surface level seems to be more similar to the Tyrann Mathieu extension that was team friendly than to the Cameron Jordan extension that was not team friendly. Again we will have to wait for the final details to shake out because its always possible that the remaining part of the contract that was not guaranteed in year 2 guarantees with a trigger a week from now as some device to avoid the 'guaranteed at signing' moniker or that the pay cut is exaggerated because the contract was someone restructured an hour before the extension bringing in a second hidden bonus.

If it was a straight up exchange of $12 million / 1 year for $17.25 million at 2 years with $13.25 million guaranteed, that is effectively only $1.25 million additional future money guaranteed when you consider that we were not likely to cut Davis this season and that any savings this season can offset future expense. If there are not hidden costs, this is all reasonable for a player who is producing at their peak but high risk to decline given his age. It also would make Davis tradeable if we struggle and he wants to finish a season with a contender, whereas nobody is trading for $14 million guaranteed salary for Cameron '2 sack Jordan.'

I feel better about extending Mathieu and Davis with these kind of deals than Kamara and especially Hill. Kamara is already under contract for 2025 unlike Mathieu and Hill, so extending Kamara is a different issue. Adding 2026 to Kamara's contract would be risky. Also Kamara is due to make $25 million in 2025 and that would be an insane number for even a prime MVP-caliber RB leading a consistent playoff teams offense while Kamara is clearly declining and the not the focus of the Saints offense at its best. I would not pay any RB in the league $25 million a year. Restructuring Kamara will be harder because he may not want to take any kind of pay cut without adding years that more than make up for it, so then what to you do, replace $25 million in 2025 with $15 million per year from 2025-2027? Thats not good value at his age either. For Kamara its got to be a really big pay cut where his agent recognizes where the market it for running backs and can't be worried about savings face, and if he won't take it, he is cut not paid $25 million in any restructured form for 2025. Also Kamara has been critical of the coaching the past year and may get vocal again if Kubiak cannot instantly transform him into CMC. Extending him into 2026 plus could be risky even for Loomis and Allen if they end up marrying a dissident.

I really don't want to extend Hill or Ram. I know Hill is a fan favorite but I maintain that the money would be better spent on line to improve the rest of the offense and make the #1 QB and #1 RB better every down. I think other teams would agree and if Hill was on the open market he would not get $10 million a year, but rather something more in like with Cordelle Patterson or Marcus Mariota especially given his age and long term injury history.

The 49ers just cut a player who would not take a real legitimate 'not smoke and mirrors' pay cut. I am glad we are getting players to take pay cuts, but we need to be willing to accept that option too if they won't say yes to a pay cut that reflects real market value and makes sense for the team.

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Compensatory 2025 possibility here I believe.