There's no denying that talent-wise, Shockey is a top 5 talent. However, there's more to football that being talented. I live up in NY, all my friends are Giants fans and their fan base is 50/50 on him. You have to weigh his talents against his attitude and I for one don't want him as a Saint. Couple things I want to point out about him:

1) This guy ripped on the gay community saying he wouldn't stand for one of his teammates being gay. Oh, that's being a great teammate. Just the guy I want on my team...

2) A year later he calls Bill Parcells a derogatory name for being gay. He was never his coach but felt the need to throw him under the bus.

3) After losing a game to Seattle he throws his current coach under the bus saying "We got outplayed, and we got outcoached. Write that down."

4) The Giants went on to win the Super Bowl after he went down with an injury. The whole team got better when he went out of the lineup and that isn't a coincidence. He demands the ball all the time and when he doesn't he becomes a distraction. He's extremely selfish.

5) Having watched many Giants games, I can tell you this guy drops way too many touchdowns. He's solid between the 20's but once you get into the redzone, he disappears. The last thing we need is another guy dropping passes for Drew.

6) Lastly, the Giants are asking way to much for him. I'd much rather continue building our defense. Our offense is Super Bowl caliber. Team's with worse offenses than ours have won SB's in the last decade. We already traded away a draft pick for Vilma and I'm fine with that because we got a defensive starter. Unless Shockey can also play linebacker or corner at a pro bowl level, he won't help our team get to the next level.

JUST SAY NO TO JEREMY!!!

Ok lets say we get Jeremy "ME, Selfish" Shockey.

I think we should start a pool on what will be the reasons he wants to be traded from us.

1. Food SUCKs!
2. Cajuns are gay!
3. Sean doesn't know his butt from a whole in the ground.

Conventional wisdom has it that Defense won the game for the Giants. Last I checked, Shockey didn't play defense.

I'm not saying I ascribe to this view (because I don't). However, before someone else says that Shockey's injury won the Giants the SB, I suggest they also address this argument (that is was Defense that really wins championships).

Funny that you mention that

If I recall correctly, the NY defense gave up the lead with about 2 minutes on the clock. Then, the NE defense could not stop the Giants inside the 2 minute warning and gave up the lead back with 30-some seconds.

So I say offense won that one.

Funny that you mention that

If I recall correctly, the NY defense gave up the lead with about 2 minutes on the clock. Then, the NE defense could not stop the Giants inside the 2 minute warning and gave up the lead back with 30-some seconds.

So I say offense won that one.

Where do you need to get better? Offense, Defense, Special Team, Training and Conditioning, Medical, Coaching, and Front Office.

Just because Defense needs the most help does not mean it should get ALL of it, and we need to improve across the board, every year, in every way.

seriously? I mean seriously??? you think that seriously???