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saintfan · 09-17-2003, 05:27 PM

He looked pissed huh tweeky? Still lost too didn\'t they?

Donovan McNabb MUST step up and lead his team and stop takin things so personally. He\'s obvioiusly interested in his own statistics at the expense of the team. Maybe he needs to have a personal chat with his receivers and lead them into not droping all those balls. He sucks as a leader. All he does is stand there and pout while the other team is handing him his azz. They\'re obviously paying Donovan WAY too much money...no way he has top 5 statistics this year.

Gotcha!

We all deal with things in our own way. Thank You...thank you very much.

Elvis has left the building.

BillyCarpenter1 · 09-17-2003, 05:31 PM

BMG -- I applaud you man. At least you have the courage to say \"BrooksMustGo\"

Looks like I was wrong about the Bashers. It seems like I was mistaken believing that they wanted Aaron gone and wanted him replaced with, well.........anyone but Brooks!!!

Now it seems like they are willing to give Brooks the \"Benefit of the Doubt\" --

I\'m beginning to wonder what we\'ve been argueing about. I didn\' realize you guys wanted Aaron to be our QB.

Hell, me and saintsfan might be able to take y\'all out for a beer sometimes and y\'all can tell us how you saw the talent there and KNEW how great he was gonna be.

[Edited on 17/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]

tweeky · 09-17-2003, 05:32 PM

He looked pissed huh tweeky? Still lost too didn\'t they?
Donovan McNabb MUST step up and lead his team and stop takin things so personally. He\'s obvioiusly interested in his own statistics at the expense of the team. Maybe he needs to have a personal chat with his receivers and lead them into not droping all those balls. He sucks as a leader. All he does is stand there and pout while the other team is handing him his azz. They\'re obviously paying Donovan WAY too much money...no way he has top 5 statistics this year.
Gotcha!
We all deal with things in our own way. Thank You...thank you very much.
Elvis has left the building.

I think McNabbs main problem was he just didn\'t have the eyes to own them that night.

Dammm, And I stated earlier that I wouldn\'t take the bait.

[Edited on 17/9/2003 by tweeky]

saintfan · 09-17-2003, 05:46 PM

LOL. Don\'t sweat it tweeky. I\'m a professional. Don\'t try this at hime!

Seriously, you can see how obviously rediculous that sounds. Donovan\'s problems have not been entorely of his own creation, so my \"mock\" assesment was completely unfair.

That\'s my whole point.

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BrooksMustGo · 09-17-2003, 05:49 PM

I\'m all choked up Billy.

But yeah I think he\'s over rated, I think he\'s lazy, I think he\'s lackadasical. I think he\'s the picture of a \"me-first\" kind of player. I think he\'s the kind of guy that would rather be making shoe commercials and hosting a talk show than playing football. I think we\'d be better off drafting a replacement.

But then I like smart, accurate guys who can throw a touch pass.

The space cadet hasn\'t shown me that he isn\'t what I think he is and hasn\'t shown that he can do any of the things that I think makes a QB great. Will we win some games with him? Probably. Could we do better? Yep. Is it a risk to dump the space cadet we know to draft a kid who might be a big bust? Definately. Do I think that\'s the only way we\'ll find a guy who plays four quarters every game? Yep.

And yes he\'s won a playoff game, but having seen that game, the entire emphasis of that game was, \"The Saints are going to try and play solid defense and special teams and not put all the pressure on their young QB to win this game by himself.\" So all of you guys who take teddy bears with #2 on them with you to bed: listen up.

You fellas are always the ones saying there are 21 other guys on the field too and the space cadet can\'t do everything all by himself. Let\'s remember that little Kordell wasn\'t game planned to win that game, or to even be that major focus of that game. Ricky had a lot to do with it, sloppy Ram defense had a lot to do with it, Az-Hakim had a lot to do with it, a pretty good defensive effort kept \"the greatest show on turf\" in check for 60 minutes and yes the space cadet did scramble for a TD, but he most certainly did NOT win the Saints only playoff game. He did happen to play with the 21 other guys who won the Saints their first playoff game.

I do like that Billy and I have an understanding. I don\'t agree with him, but he\'s totally welcome to have his opinion. I don\'t plan on getting on the space cadet\'s bandwagon. Now if the Saints go to the superbowl this year and win only because of the space cadet\'s efforts, then I\'ll say, \"Wow, How cool is it that the Saints won the friggin\' superbowl?\" I\'m still not going to be on the space cadet\'s bandwagon. He\'ll be our very own Dilfer in my reckoning, he just won\'t be able to thrown the touch pass.

tweeky · 09-17-2003, 05:57 PM

I personally think this whole brooks debate \"He Sux/No he doesn\'t\" is played out.

He\'s what we have, he is good, he may become great if improves. Gee that can be said about most QB\'s in this league.

Every QB in this league has stengths and weaknesses.

Fans will always debate their QB based on either their QB\'s strengths and weaknesses.

AB\'s strengths greatly outweigh his weaknesses (IMHO).

But that doesn\'t mean the weaknesses should be ignored.

Hopefully this week he\'ll put the issue to rest by whooping up on the Titans secondary.

JOESAM2002 · 09-17-2003, 07:09 PM

Tyra Banks? Hell I\'ll marry Tyra Banks. Today, with AB beating me on my back saying pllllllllllleeeeease don\'t take the girl!

lumm0x · 09-17-2003, 08:07 PM

So I ask for a fair comparison between Brooks and McNabb, which in my mind is a fair playing field of individuals with similar talents and what do I get from BillyC and saintfan...who I directed by \"Brooks goggles\" comment at.........
a sarcastic reply that ignores the issue and beats chests that they\'ve educated the masses....

BillyCarpenter1 · 09-17-2003, 08:15 PM

NO -- I do not think it\'s a fair comparison, which is why I didn\'t respond to it.

BlackandBlue · 09-17-2003, 08:18 PM

It\'s called \"selective hearing\", lumm0x, something I normally practice with my girlfriends.

i would probably have to pull my foot out your a**es before the halftime show

Violent much?

09-17-2003, 05:27 PM	#51
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Saints Insiders? He looked pissed huh tweeky? Still lost too didn\'t they? Donovan McNabb MUST step up and lead his team and stop takin things so personally. He\'s obvioiusly interested in his own statistics at the expense of the team. Maybe he needs to have a personal chat with his receivers and lead them into not droping all those balls. He sucks as a leader. All he does is stand there and pout while the other team is handing him his azz. They\'re obviously paying Donovan WAY too much money...no way he has top 5 statistics this year. Gotcha! We all deal with things in our own way. Thank You...thank you very much. Elvis has left the building.
	C'mon Man...

09-17-2003, 05:31 PM	#52
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Saints Insiders? BMG -- I applaud you man. At least you have the courage to say \"BrooksMustGo\" Looks like I was wrong about the Bashers. It seems like I was mistaken believing that they wanted Aaron gone and wanted him replaced with, well.........anyone but Brooks!!! Now it seems like they are willing to give Brooks the \"Benefit of the Doubt\" -- I\'m beginning to wonder what we\'ve been argueing about. I didn\' realize you guys wanted Aaron to be our QB. Hell, me and saintsfan might be able to take y\'all out for a beer sometimes and y\'all can tell us how you saw the talent there and KNEW how great he was gonna be. [Edited on 17/9/2003 by BillyCarpenter1]
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209

09-17-2003, 05:32 PM	#53
tweeky 500th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Alabama Posts: 779	Saints Insiders? He looked pissed huh tweeky? Still lost too didn\'t they? Donovan McNabb MUST step up and lead his team and stop takin things so personally. He\'s obvioiusly interested in his own statistics at the expense of the team. Maybe he needs to have a personal chat with his receivers and lead them into not droping all those balls. He sucks as a leader. All he does is stand there and pout while the other team is handing him his azz. They\'re obviously paying Donovan WAY too much money...no way he has top 5 statistics this year. Gotcha! We all deal with things in our own way. Thank You...thank you very much. Elvis has left the building. I think McNabbs main problem was he just didn\'t have the eyes to own them that night. Dammm, And I stated earlier that I wouldn\'t take the bait. [Edited on 17/9/2003 by tweeky]

09-17-2003, 05:46 PM	#54
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Saints Insiders? LOL. Don\'t sweat it tweeky. I\'m a professional. Don\'t try this at hime! Seriously, you can see how obviously rediculous that sounds. Donovan\'s problems have not been entorely of his own creation, so my \"mock\" assesment was completely unfair. That\'s my whole point. <-----

09-17-2003, 05:49 PM	#55
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Saints Insiders? I\'m all choked up Billy. But yeah I think he\'s over rated, I think he\'s lazy, I think he\'s lackadasical. I think he\'s the picture of a \"me-first\" kind of player. I think he\'s the kind of guy that would rather be making shoe commercials and hosting a talk show than playing football. I think we\'d be better off drafting a replacement. But then I like smart, accurate guys who can throw a touch pass. The space cadet hasn\'t shown me that he isn\'t what I think he is and hasn\'t shown that he can do any of the things that I think makes a QB great. Will we win some games with him? Probably. Could we do better? Yep. Is it a risk to dump the space cadet we know to draft a kid who might be a big bust? Definately. Do I think that\'s the only way we\'ll find a guy who plays four quarters every game? Yep. And yes he\'s won a playoff game, but having seen that game, the entire emphasis of that game was, \"The Saints are going to try and play solid defense and special teams and not put all the pressure on their young QB to win this game by himself.\" So all of you guys who take teddy bears with #2 on them with you to bed: listen up. You fellas are always the ones saying there are 21 other guys on the field too and the space cadet can\'t do everything all by himself. Let\'s remember that little Kordell wasn\'t game planned to win that game, or to even be that major focus of that game. Ricky had a lot to do with it, sloppy Ram defense had a lot to do with it, Az-Hakim had a lot to do with it, a pretty good defensive effort kept \"the greatest show on turf\" in check for 60 minutes and yes the space cadet did scramble for a TD, but he most certainly did NOT win the Saints only playoff game. He did happen to play with the 21 other guys who won the Saints their first playoff game. I do like that Billy and I have an understanding. I don\'t agree with him, but he\'s totally welcome to have his opinion. I don\'t plan on getting on the space cadet\'s bandwagon. Now if the Saints go to the superbowl this year and win only because of the space cadet\'s efforts, then I\'ll say, \"Wow, How cool is it that the Saints won the friggin\' superbowl?\" I\'m still not going to be on the space cadet\'s bandwagon. He\'ll be our very own Dilfer in my reckoning, he just won\'t be able to thrown the touch pass.
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09-17-2003, 05:57 PM	#56
tweeky 500th Post Join Date: May 2003 Location: South Alabama Posts: 779	Saints Insiders? I personally think this whole brooks debate \"He Sux/No he doesn\'t\" is played out. He\'s what we have, he is good, he may become great if improves. Gee that can be said about most QB\'s in this league. Every QB in this league has stengths and weaknesses. Fans will always debate their QB based on either their QB\'s strengths and weaknesses. AB\'s strengths greatly outweigh his weaknesses (IMHO). But that doesn\'t mean the weaknesses should be ignored. Hopefully this week he\'ll put the issue to rest by whooping up on the Titans secondary.
	Whether we agree or disagree; its all for Him.

09-17-2003, 07:09 PM	#57
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Saints Insiders? Tyra Banks? Hell I\'ll marry Tyra Banks. Today, with AB beating me on my back saying pllllllllllleeeeease don\'t take the girl!

09-17-2003, 08:07 PM	#58
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Saints Insiders? So I ask for a fair comparison between Brooks and McNabb, which in my mind is a fair playing field of individuals with similar talents and what do I get from BillyC and saintfan...who I directed by \"Brooks goggles\" comment at......... a sarcastic reply that ignores the issue and beats chests that they\'ve educated the masses....

09-17-2003, 08:15 PM	#59
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209	Saints Insiders? NO -- I do not think it\'s a fair comparison, which is why I didn\'t respond to it.
BillyCarpenter1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,209

09-17-2003, 08:18 PM	#60
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Saints Insiders? It\'s called \"selective hearing\", lumm0x, something I normally practice with my girlfriends. i would probably have to pull my foot out your a**es before the halftime show Violent much?