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Harper is going to resturcture and give us another 4.2 million in cap room to acquire Nnamdi. Huff won't be in any of the plans for sure.
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Top Ten Saints FA Target List (JeanPierre) [Updated - 03/16/2013]
Listed by NFL Scouting Rankings 01 OT Sebastian Vollmer, NE 02 CB Nnamdi Asomugha, PHI 03 FS Michael Huff, OAK 04 CB Keenan Lewis, PIT:bng: 05 OC Brian De La Puente, NO *RFA:bng: 06 QB Ryan Fitzpatrick, BUF 07 TE Michael Hoomanawanui, NE 08 WR Denario Alexander, SD *RFA 09 TE Will Heller, DET 10 WR Julian Edelman, NE Players in bold indicate signed... LB Dan Connor and TE Brandon Myers signed with G'nats... S Craig Dahl signed with the 49ers... WR Brandon Lloyd has been released by the Patriots... Mike Florio reports Jake Long still holding up the tackle market | ProFootballTalk :saintsfan: |
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if Nnamdi is signed the focus is squarely on the front 7
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Here's a list of who is left right now.... and there are quite a few.
NFL free agency: The top remaining players - NFL.com |
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Delmas & Knighton seem good bets.
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i agree but its the freaking contract and the time left them and the freaking carry over that kills us. Harper is signed longer than Jenkins. would you let Jenkins go and team Harper with Huff?
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so that bring me back to LB that are young and have shown they can handle themselves in a 34
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[QUOTE=jeanpierre;487200]Top Ten Saints FA Target List (JeanPierre) [Updated - 03/16/2013]
Listed by NFL Scouting Rankings 01 OT Sebastian Vollmer, NE 02 CB Nnamdi Asomugha, PHI 03 FS Michael Huff, OAK 04 CB Keenan Lewis, PIT:bng: 05 OC Brian De La Puente, NO *RFA:bng: 06 QB Ryan Fitzpatrick, BUF 07 TE Ben Watson, CLE/NE:bng: 08 WR Denario Alexander, SD *RFA 09 TE Will Heller, DET 10 WR Julian Edelman, NE Players in bold indicate signed... :saintsfan: So instead of Michael Hoomanawanui, NE we get Ben Watson, he should have enough in the tank to be a solid backup to Graham and offer some unique options in two TE passing formations... |
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I know many here think Nnamdi Asomugha would be a great addition to the roster; I'm in the minority and would rather find a talent like Lewis young in FA or find talent via the Draft...
Asomugha's attitude in Philadelphia and his age are major red flags for me... I'd rather add someone like Michael Huff, whose made money, but has found that money doesn't translate to a winning team, atmosphere... Having Huff would allow the Saints to move Jenkins to cornerback or have him at Strong Safety and release from Harper's contract... ...stay tuned... |
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So, would you then place Jenkins in the nickel and have Robinson or White be the dime? I'm still fully on board with the Asomugha signing, naturally it would have to be around $4M/yr max, but if he would be willing to sign for $3M/yr I think you'd have to be foolish to not want him. |
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Id rather try and find a way to pick up Volmer on a long term deal or Bryant McKinnie on a shorter deal and get a tackle in this years draft and first round next year.
I think Asomugha would be a decent pick up for the right price but imo its easier to sign a OT in FA then go OLB/CB with the first picks of the draft than sign Asomugha and try and get a OLB/LOT through the draft. There are a few decent looking ROT in rounds 2-4 but few that could plug straight in at LOT. |
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Ben Watson was not even on my list for a good reason. The pats were right to let him walk he aint all that. like i said in the signing thread one play you love him and the next you will be throwing thing at the tV. IMO he is a media darling.
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As far as not wanting him, I'd rather commit limited resources (cap space) in a deal like that for Lewis, where we're getting a younger player that we can build around... I do, however, have concerns for Nnamdi Asomugha's age and decline in skills; either way, let's butter the popcorn and see what happens... |
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I'd wait to judge his decline until seeing him play with some motivation. Philly was a plain toxic place to be. And even if he has lost a step, he'd still be able to cover most. As far as a corner of our's getting burnt once in a while? Hell, that's why we have Drew!
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2013 New Orleans Saints Defense (Projected)
LDE Cam Jordan, Greg Romeus, Jay Richardson NT Broderick Bunkley, Akiem Hicks RDE Will Smith, Tom Johnson, Tyrunn Walker WLB Jon Vilma, Chris Chamberlain MLB Curtis Lofton, Ramon Humber, Austin Johnson SLB David Hawthorne, Martez Wilson JLB Junior Galette, Braylon Broughton CB Jabari Greer, Keenan Lewis, Corey White, Ryan Steed FS Malcolm Jenkins, Rafael Bush, Jerico Nelson SS Roman Harper, Isa Abdul-Quddus, CB Patrick Robinson, Dion Turner, A.J. Davis Notes: As stated earlier, I believe Lewis is replacing Greer, not Robinson; if Nnamdi signs, as rumored, both Greer and Robinson are probably gone; meaning we can chalk up yet another bust in the first round... Again, there is no way in hell Will Smith plays OLB; can the team really stand pat with him at DE in the 3-4? With a friendlier cap number, is Smith is tradeable to a 4-3 team? Probably won't happen with the Saints rewarding loyalty... Now, can Martez Wilson overtake a Healthy Hawthorne? Have argued that Michael Huff with his talents/skill set and abilities to cover would have a better impact than the Nnamdi signing (could we afford both?!?) Huff is available and should be signed... |
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If we make a move in 2013 carry over is key
2014/2015 FA salary players 1 yr carry over Malcolm Jenkins 2,414,000 - 2014 Will Smith 10,400,000 - 2015 FA - Club option for the 2014 season 2015/2016 FA salary players 2 yr carry over Roman Harper 6,000,000 - 2015 Patrick Robinson 872,500 - 2015 2016/2017 FA salary players 3 yr carry over Jabari Greer 4,200,000 - 2016 spotrac.com - not sure how updated the info is with FA going on Saints have a bail out option on Smith in 2014? hmmmm big year for Smith. I would love to see if that is still in place and what the details are. I see a very deep and crowded backfield for the saints till next year or 2015. The saints hate cap carry over and dead cap money is not smart when you are fighting to stay under the cap for the upcoming years Anyways 2015/2016 is a very big year for saints and resigning players. Not that there are many big names in the groups just a large number of our young core players will be up for their just due according to their agents. next three years will be a fun. I hope Micky can live through it. |
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As much money as is committed to Brees/Colston/Passing Game - to have a total failure at Left Tackle would be beyond Epic Fail...
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If I remember it correctly, the 2014 year was optional in the original contract the Saints gave Smith, but it's no longer optional in the restructured contract the Saints made with Smith last offseason. They did that so that they could have one extra year to spread out the prorated signing bonus, so if this newest restructure hasn't changed it - I think Smith is signed for the next two seasons. |
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Per Brian McIntyre of Yahoo.com "According to a source with knowledge of the reworked deals, Smith and Vilma reduced their cash compensation and cap numbers by nearly $11 million combined."
"Smith was scheduled to earn $10.15 million in cash compensation in 2013, including a $1 million roster bonus on the 15th day of the league year, a $9 million base salary and a $150,000 workout bonus. Smith was scheduled to count $14.502 million against the cap. In the renegotiated deal, Smith's $1 million roster bonus and $150,000 workout bonus remain, but his salary has been reduced to $3 million, a $6 million pay cut that lowers his cap number to $8.502 million for the upcoming season." "The 2014 season on Smith's contract, which calls for a $10.4 million base salary, $1 million roster bonus and $150,000 workout bonus, was unchanged." Seen chatter that 2014 is a club option, but haven't seen an article regarding same; and wouldn't rolling some money forward still count against Saints cap in 2014? |
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With Reed looking like a signature away from being a Texan the Ravens are reportedly looking at Huff to replace him in their backfield - bad news for your dream of bringing him over JP.
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Ravens among NFL teams interested in safety Michael Huff, source says - baltimoresun.com
Yeah, I was hoping the Saints Brass would take a closer look and realize what he could do for our secondary... |
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Top Ten Saints FA Target List (JeanPierre) [Updated - 03/16/2013]
Listed by NFL Scouting Rankings 01 OT Sebastian Vollmer, NE 02 FS Michael Huff, OAK 03 CB Nnamdi Asomugha, PHI 04 CB Keenan Lewis, PIT:bng: 05 OC Brian De La Puente, NO *RFA:bng: 06 QB Kevin Kolb, ARI 07 TE Ben Watson, CLE/NE:bng: 08 WR Denario Alexander, SD *RFA 09 OC Todd McClure, ATL 10 WR Julian Edelman, NE Players in bold indicate signed... :saintsfan: Linebacker Victor Butler coming to New Orleans on Thursday to visit Saints | NOLA.com |
I'm surprised Alexander seems to be being overlooked by everyone.
The Chargers didnt put any big tender on him from what I have read. |
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I would have thought that offers would have been made.Id love to see him opposite Colston. |
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i think the remaining WR are going to be third tier one year deal type of players. the amount of money wallace signed for scared a lot of people
looking at the roster at rush LB type of LB on the roster Butler would compete for snaps with Will Smith(?), Martez Wilson and Junior Galette thats why this is so fun. waiting to see were everyone settles in at |
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Add Will Herring to our list of linebackers; great signing for the Saints...
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Top Ten Saints FA Target List (JeanPierre)
[Updated - 03/21/2013] Listed by NFL Scouting Rankings 01 OT Sebastian Vollmer, NE 02 FS Michael Huff, OAK 03 CB Keenan Lewis, PIT:bng: 04 LB Victor Butler, DAL 05 CB Nnamdi Asomugha, PHI 06 OC Brian De La Puente, NO *RFA:bng: 07 TE Ben Watson, CLE/NE:bng: 08 QB Kevin Kolb, ARI 09 WR Denario Alexander, SD *RFA 10 WR Julian Edelman, NE Players in bold indicate signed... :saintsfan: Linebacker Victor Butler coming to New Orleans on Thursday to visit Saints | NOLA.com Linebacker Will Herring signs a one-year deal to rejoin the New Orleans Saints | NOLA.com |
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Brad Jones signed a 1-yr contract with the Packers for undisclosed compensation, so unfortunately he's off the market as well and it's a shame because he would've been another great (cheap) addition to the LB corps. :-(
Brad Jones - Green Bay Packers - 2013 Player Profile - Rotoworld.com |
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The Saints Linebackers story looks to be a good one this year...
Should Victor Butler be signed and we draft a linebacker in either the first or third round, we will have an amazing competition at all the LB spots... The safe move is to sign New England Offensive Tackle Sebastian Vollmer... Saints FO is crushing on Nnamdi... I would sign Huff as an upgrade and for versatility... Butler has yet to show he can bring it for sixteen games in a season... I think we're down to our last two signings; it's like being a kid again and waiting for a baby tooth to finally come out... |
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Asomugha is certainly taking his time with the decision, if in fact he already has offers tabled from both the 49ers and the Saints and he isn't pursuing any other offers on the market.
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we need a dislike button grrr oh well Chicago Sun-Times is reporting that Jones signed a three-year contract worth $11.75 million that includes a $3 million signing bonus. He was cheaper than Jr. to sign grrrr I do not see any other ILB in FA worth chasing so draft it is |
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3 years, 12 million? opppsssss
3 yr(s) / $3,600,000 i stand corrected thanks now i can get off Jr back i guess Sorry micky and sorry Jr. |
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