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Drew signs all we have left is the 34 or 43 debate left.
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And Coach Payton said there will be four linebackers...
http://blackandgold.com/u/5271-albums105-picture899.jpg SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Offseason/Free Agency Comment: While Restricted Free Agents (RFA) and Exclusive Rights Free Agents (ERFA) are listed, Unrestricted Free Agents (UFA) are not listed. OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Garrett Grayson RB (5) Mark Ingram, C.J. Spiller, Marcus Murphy, Travaris Cadet, Vick Ballard FB (1) Austin Johnson, Toben Opurum WR (2) Brandon Coleman, Kyle Prater :rolleyes: LT (2) Terron Armstead, Andrus Peat LG (2) Senio Kelemete :rolleyes: C (2) Max Unger RG (1) Cyril Lemon :rolleyes: RT (1) Zach Strief, Bryan Witzmann TE (3) Coby Fleener, Michael Hoomanawanu, Jack Tabb, Chris Manhertz, RaShaun Allen :rolleyes: WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead, Shane Wynn, Reggie Bell, R.J. Harris DEFENSE RDE (2) Cameron Jordan, Kasim Edebali, Phillip Hunt NT (3) John Jenkins, Tyeler Davison, Kaleb Eulls, Ashaad Mabry :rolleyes: LDE (2) Bobby Richardson, Tavaris Barnes, Obum Gwacham :rolleyes: WLB (2) Dannell Ellerbe, Craig Robertson :rolleyes: MLB (2) James Laurinaitis, Nate Stupar, Jeff Luc SLB (2) Stephone Anthony, Mike Mauti JLB (2) Hau'oli Kikaha, Davis Tull RCB (3) Keenan Lewis, Kyle Wilson, Damian Swann, P.J. Williams, Tony Carter :rolleyes: FS (2) Jairus Byrd, Jamarca Sanford, Alden Darby :rolleyes: SS (3) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri, Erik Harris LCB (2) Delvin Breaux, Brian Dixon, Brandon Dixon KICKING K (1) Kai Forbath, Josh Scobee P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher Projected Starter Reserve/Injured Reserve/Future |
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By going to this alignment with the rumored Fairley signing, you can see we don't look as terribly thin as before...
We also minimize the needs for our defense in the upcoming 2016 draft - allowing us more flexibility and not having to tip in our hand in our selections... Just hoping Fairley can, wait for it, be all he can be... http://blackandgold.com/u/5271-albums105-picture901.jpg DEFENSE RDE (2) Cameron Jordan, Bobby Richardson, Tavaris Barnes, Obum Gwacham, Phillip Hunt NT (3) John Jenkins, Kaleb Eulls, Ashaad Mabry :rolleyes: DT (2) Nick Fairley, Tyeler Davison WLB (2) Dannell Ellerbe, Craig Robertson :rolleyes: MLB (2) James Laurinaitis, Nate Stupar, Jeff Luc SLB (2) Stephone Anthony, Mike Mauti LEO (2) Hau'oli Kikaha, Kasim Edebali, Davis Tull RCB (3) Keenan Lewis, Kyle Wilson, Brian Dixon, Brandon Dixon FS (2) Jairus Byrd, Jamarca Sanford, Alden Darby :rolleyes: SS (3) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri, Erik Harris LCB (2) Delvin Breaux, Damian Swann, P.J. Williams, Tony Carter |
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On paper; we could have a pretty decent defense. Not including the line...
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4-3 DEFENSE with Fairley
RDE (2) Cameron Jordan, Bobby Richardson, Tavaris Barnes, Obum Gwacham, Phillip Hunt NT (3) John Jenkins, Kaleb Eulls, Ashaad Mabry :rolleyes: DT (2) Nick Fairley, Tyeler Davison WLB (2) Dannell Ellerbe, Craig Robertson :rolleyes: MLB (2) James Laurinaitis, Nate Stupar, Jeff Luc SLB (2) Stephone Anthony, Mike Mauti LEO (2) Hau'oli Kikaha, Kasim Edebali, Davis Tull RCB (3) Keenan Lewis, Kyle Wilson, Brian Dixon, Brandon Dixon FS (2) Jairus Byrd, Jamarca Sanford, Alden Darby :rolleyes: SS (3) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri, Erik Harris LCB (2) Delvin Breaux, Damian Swann, P.J. Williams, Tony Carter Projected Starter Reserve/Injured Reserve/Future |
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Should Nick Fairley be signed, he could still play a 3-tech, but as a 3-4 DE. Wouldn't that be interesting?!?
http://blackandgold.com/u/5271-albums105-picture862.png Note: The Graphic is confusing but the "S" lined up over the 3-tech DE and the Jack LBer would be the Sam LBer DEFENSE RDE (2) Cameron Jordan, Bobby Richardson, Obum Gwacham, Phillip Hunt NT (3) John Jenkins, Kaleb Eulls, Ashaad Mabry :rolleyes: LDE (2) Nick Fairley, Tyeler Davison, Tavaris Barnes JLB (2) Hau'oli Kikaha, Kasim Edebali, Davis Tull WLB (2) Dannell Ellerbe, Craig Robertson :rolleyes: MLB (2) James Laurinaitis, Nate Stupar, Jeff Luc SLB (2) Stephone Anthony, Mike Mauti RCB (3) Keenan Lewis, Kyle Wilson, Brian Dixon, Brandon Dixon FS (2) Jairus Byrd, Jamarca Sanford, Alden Darby :rolleyes: SS (3) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri, Erik Harris LCB (2) Delvin Breaux, Damian Swann, P.J. Williams, Tony Carter |
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Offseason/Free Agency
Comment: While Restricted Free Agents (RFA) and Exclusive Rights Free Agents (ERFA) are listed, Unrestricted Free Agents (UFA) are not listed. OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Garrett Grayson RB (5) Mark Ingram, C.J. Spiller, Marcus Murphy, Travaris Cadet, Vick Ballard FB (1) Austin Johnson, Toben Opurum WR (2) Brandon Coleman, Kyle Prater :rolleyes: LT (2) Terron Armstead, Andrus Peat LG (2) Senio Kelemete, Cyril Lemon :rolleyes: C (2) Max Unger RG (1) Tim Lelito RT (1) Zach Strief, Bryan Witzmann TE (3) Coby Fleener, Josh Hill, Michael Hoomanawanu, Jack Tabb, Chris Manhertz, RaShaun Allen :rolleyes: WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead, Shane Wynn, Reggie Bell, R.J. Harris DEFENSE RDE (2) Cameron Jordan, Bobby Richardson, Obum Gwacham, Phillip Hunt NT (3) John Jenkins, Kaleb Eulls, Ashaad Mabry :rolleyes: 3T (2) Nick Fairley, Tyeler Davison, Tavaris Barnes LEO (2) Hau'oli Kikaha, Kasim Edebali, Davis Tull SLB (2) Stephone Anthony, Mike Mauti MLB (2) James Laurinaitis, Craig Robertson, Jeff Luc WLB (2) Dannell Ellerbe, Nate Stupar :rolleyes: RCB (3) Keenan Lewis, Damian Swann, Brian Dixon, Brandon Dixon :rolleyes: FS (2) Jairus Byrd, Jamarca Sanford, Alden Darby :rolleyes: SS (3) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri, Erik Harris LCB (2) Delvin Breaux, Kyle Wilson, P.J. Williams, Tony Carter KICKING K (1) Kai Forbath, Josh Scobee P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher Projected Starter Reserve/Injured Reserve/Future |
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Assuming Fairley signs, our needs are:
Wide Receiver Guard Nose Tackle Safety Cornerback |
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I am not overly excited by this off season so far. I see some improvements but drafting again in the top 20 of the 2017 looks likely
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Don't be surprised to see Ireland pick up a cornerback in the 4th or 5th rounds in next's month draft. The depth chart at the position is concerning.
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Offseason/Free Agency
Comment: While Restricted Free Agents (RFA) and Exclusive Rights Free Agents (ERFA) are listed, Unrestricted Free Agents (UFA) are not listed. OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Garrett Grayson RB (5) Mark Ingram, C.J. Spiller, Marcus Murphy, Travaris Cadet, Vick Ballard FB (1) Austin Johnson, Toben Opurum WR (2) Brandon Coleman, Kyle Prater :rolleyes: LT (2) Terron Armstead, Andrus Peat LG (2) Senio Kelemete, Cyril Lemon :rolleyes: C (2) Max Unger RG (1) Tim Lelito RT (1) Zach Strief, Bryan Witzmann TE (3) Coby Fleener, Josh Hill, Michael Hoomanawanu, Jack Tabb, Chris Manhertz, RaShaun Allen WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead, Shane Wynn, Reggie Bell, R.J. Harris DEFENSE RDE (2) Cameron Jordan, Bobby Richardson, Obum Gwacham, Phillip Hunt NT (3) John Jenkins, Kaleb Eulls, Ashaad Mabry :rolleyes: DT (2) Nick Fairley, Tyeler Davison, Tavaris Barnes JLB (2) Hau'oli Kikaha, Kasim Edebali, Davis Tull SLB (2) Stephone Anthony, Mike Mauti MLB (2) James Laurinaitis, Craig Robertson WLB (2) Dannell Ellerbe, Nate Stupar :rolleyes: RCB (2) Keenan Lewis, Kyle Wilson, Damian Swann, P.J. Williams :rolleyes: SS (3) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri, Erik Harris FS (2) Jairus Byrd, Jamarca Sanford, Alden Darby :rolleyes: LCB (3) Delvin Breaux, Brian Dixon, Brandon Dixon, Tony Carter KICKING K (1) Kai Forbath, Josh Scobee P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher Projected Starter Reserve/Injured Reserve/Future |
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At this point I wouldn't be surprised to see them draft a WR or a CB either.
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I am sticking with S/CB hybrids day 2 and 3. One of the best drafts for those in a few years. kill two birds one stone. add 2 and kill 4 birds with 2 stones.
SS is screaming at me. WEAK SPOT!! Then again it could just be my echo from the pass few years |
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SS (3) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri, Erik Harris FS (2) Jairus Byrd, Jamarca Sanford, Alden Darby Not one of these guys has job security in my book. I would not let Kenny hold us hostage in FA. let him walk and take the comp pick if he thinks he all that great as a Safety. I can not wait to get from underneath Byrds contract. This is a good deep year to add some serious depth upgrades in the secondary. Let the back ups slug it out. plenty of room for healthy upgrades. At least some that will a bigger impact on special teams while waiting for annual IR bug land. Start grooming replacements now. |
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Per Over the Cap, the New Orleans Saints Total Cap Number is $160,470,709 with the Top 51 at $151,864,276; (Offense: $72,563,789 Defense: $53,942,185 Special: $5,220,000)
Source: New Orleans Saints Salary Cap - Over the Cap
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We now have some room for a Terron Armstead extension as well as for a first round draft pick (remaining picks will not count as their alloted amount will not be among the Top 51 earners)...
Or perhaps we can take a look at adding C/G Stefen Wisniewski?!? |
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Offseason/Free Agency
Comment: While Restricted Free Agents (RFA) and Exclusive Rights Free Agents (ERFA) are listed, Unrestricted Free Agents (UFA) are not listed. DEFENSE RDE (2) Cameron Jordan, Bobby Richardson, Obum Gwacham, Phillip Hunt NT (3) John Jenkins, Kaleb Eulls, Ashaad Mabry :rolleyes: DT (2) Nick Fairley, Tyeler Davison, Tavaris Barnes LEO (2) Hau'oli Kikaha, Kasim Edebali, Davis Tull (JACK) SLB (2) Stephone Anthony, Mike Mauti MLB (2) James Laurinaitis, Craig Robertson WLB (2) Dannell Ellerbe, Nate Stupar :rolleyes: RCB (2) Keenan Lewis, Kyle Wilson, Damian Swann, P.J. Williams :rolleyes: SS (3) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri, Erik Harris FS (2) Jairus Byrd, Jamarca Sanford, Alden Darby :rolleyes: LCB (3) Delvin Breaux, Brian Dixon, Brandon Dixon, Tony Carter Projected Starter Reserve/Injured Reserve/Future Defensive Needs for the Draft Note: Still don't know what we have at cornerback though safety has need with Raphael Bush departure; would like to draft a big, physical defensive back who could provide versatility as a press cornerback on taller receivers or flow to safety for us... Note: Still need a big inside defensive linemen to help collapse the pocket... Note: Could use a weakside/middle linebacker for coverage - Nick Vigil comes to mind... Note: Could we float Damian Swann over as a centrefielder free safetey?!? Some have suggest P.J. but scouts had Swann as a safety candidate... |
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Offseason/Free Agency
Comment: While Restricted Free Agents (RFA) and Exclusive Rights Free Agents (ERFA) are listed, Unrestricted Free Agents (UFA) are not listed. OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Garrett Grayson RB (5) Mark Ingram, C.J. Spiller, Marcus Murphy, Travaris Cadet, Vick Ballard FB (1) Austin Johnson, Toben Opurum WR (2) Brandon Coleman, Kyle Prater :rolleyes: LT (2) Terron Armstead, Andrus Peat LG (2) Senio Kelemete, Cyril Lemon :rolleyes: C (2) Max Unger RG (1) Tim Lelito :rolleyes: RT (1) Zach Strief, Bryan Witzmann TE (3) Coby Fleener, Josh Hill, Michael Hoomanawanui, Jack Tabb, Chris Manhertz, RaShaun Allen :rolleyes: WR (3) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead, Shane Wynn, Reggie Bell, R.J. Harris Projected Starter Reserve/Injured Reserve/Future Offensive Needs For Draft Note: Sean Payton's New Orleans Saints roll with Offense. Note: There's no way Payton goes into the season with this very thin WR corps... Note: The Fleener signing addresses team's ability to climb and convert 3rd downs and red zone opportunities, but it does not solve that inability... Note: Saints can't move towards a power run game with at least one unanswered hole at guard and a coach that has Brees... Note: While we have good depth with Hill and Hoomanawanui, we still don't have a big, physical all-around tight end; and Fleener is more of a wide receiver than TE... |
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Curious that we haven't extended Terron Armstead...
We extend Junior Galette prematurely, but we haven't done the same for Armstead... Curious... |
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He hasn't garnered any All-Pro recognition and was just a Pro-Bowl alternate... I'd rather negotiate his deal now, before, all those accolades come down... |
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I'd like to get out ahead with signing Armstead, soon...
And are we going to lock up (extend) Max Unger?!? |
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Offseason/Pre Draft
Comment: While Restricted Free Agents (RFA) and Exclusive Rights Free Agents (ERFA) are listed, Unrestricted Free Agents (UFA) are not listed. OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Garrett Grayson RB (5) Mark Ingram, C.J. Spiller, Marcus Murphy, Travaris Cadet, Vick Ballard FB (1) Austin Johnson, Toben Opurum WR (2) Brandon Coleman, Kyle Prater :!: LT (2) Terron Armstead, Andrus Peat LG (2) Senio Kelemete, Cyril Lemon :!: C (2) Max Unger RG (1) Tim Lelito RT (1) Zach Strief, Bryan Witzmann TE (3) Coby Fleener, Josh Hill, Michael Hoomanawanui, Jack Tabb, Chris Manhertz, RaShaun Allen :!: WR (2) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead, Shane Wynn, Reggie Bell, R.J. Harris DEFENSE RDE (2) Cameron Jordan, Bobby Richardson, Obum Gwacham, Phillip Hunt NT (3) John Jenkins, Kaleb Eulls, Ashaad Mabry :!: 3T (2) Nick Fairley, Tyeler Davison, Tavaris Barnes :!: JLB (2) Hau'oli Kikaha, Kasim Edebali, Davis Tull SLB (2) Stephone Anthony, Mike Mauti MLB (2) James Laurinaitis, Craig Robertson WLB (2) Dannell Ellerbe, Nate Stupar :!: RCB (2) Keenan Lewis, Kyle Wilson, Damian Swann, P.J. Williams :!: SS (3) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri, Erik Harris FS (2) Jairus Byrd, Jamarca Sanford, Alden Darby :!: LCB (3) Delvin Breaux, Brian Dixon, Brandon Dixon, Tony Carter KICKING K (1) Kai Forbath, Josh Scobee P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher Projected Starter Reserve/Injured Reserve/Future :!: = Draft Priority, Need |
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We still need a big. physical cornerback - kinda the reason for signing Browner; only, need a younger, faster, stronger, better cornerback...
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Wish List for the Roster:
1) 6'4"/6'5", 290 lbs Malik Jackson type 3T/DE... 2) 6'2"/6'4", 220 lbs Rookie Marques Colston WR... 3) 6'3"/6'4", 335+ lbs Nose Tackle with nimble feet... 4) 6'2" 240 lbs LB that cover in space and intercept the ball... 5) 6'6" 265 lbs blocking and receiving Tight End... 6) And a rookie Craig Hutchinson Guard... |
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Offseason/Pre Draft
Comment: While Restricted Free Agents (RFA) and Exclusive Rights Free Agents (ERFA) are listed, Unrestricted Free Agents (UFA) are not listed. OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Garrett Grayson RB (5) Mark Ingram, Tim Hightower, C.J. Spiller, Marcus Murphy, Travaris Cadet, Vick Ballard FB (1) Austin Johnson, Toben Opurum WR (2) Brandon Coleman, Kyle Prater :!: LT (2) Terron Armstead, Andrus Peat LG (2) Cyril Lemon :!: C (2) Max Unger, Senio Kelemete RG (1) Tim Lelito RT (1) Zach Strief, Bryan Witzmann TE (3) Coby Fleener, Josh Hill, Michael Hoomanawanui, Jack Tabb, Chris Manhertz, RaShaun Allen WR (2) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead, Shane Wynn, Reggie Bell, R.J. Harris DEFENSE RDE/5T (2) Cameron Jordan, Bobby Richardson, Obum Gwacham, Phillip Hunt NG/1T (3) John Jenkins, Tyeler Davison, Kaleb Eulls, Ashaad Mabry :!: LDE/3T (2) Nick Fairley, Tavaris Barnes :!: JLB/9T (2) Hau'oli Kikaha, Kasim Edebali, Davis Tull SLB (2) Stephone Anthony, Mike Mauti MLB (2) James Laurinaitis, Craig Robertson WLB (2) Dannell Ellerbe, Nate Stupar RCB (2) Delvin Breaux, Damian Swann, Brian Dixon, Brandon Dixon SS (3) Kenny Vaccaro, Vinnie Sunseri, Erik Harris FS (2) Jairus Byrd, Jamarca Sanford, Alden Darby :!: LCB (3) Keenan Lewis, Kyle Wilson, P.J. Williams, Tony Carter :!: KICKING K (1) Kai Forbath, Josh Scobee P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher Projected Starter Reserve/Injured Reserve/Future :!: = Draft Priority, Need |
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I'm posting this here for one reason: we have 2 left tackles. Look, I love Armstead as much as anyone and I'd hate to see him leave us... But he's entering his contract year and we could possibly work a trade for as high as a 2nd round pick. What do you think? |
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I would never trade Armstead for anything less than two firsts and a second. He is the best LT in the NFL right now.
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Yeah, I'd hate to lose him. Maybe if Mo Wilkerson was part of the deal then we could talk lol.
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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Pre Draft
Note: NFL Draft begins Thursday 28 April, concludes Saturday 30 April, Auditorium Theatre, Chicago; 7 Rounds, 253 selections... OFFENSE QB (3) Drew Brees, Luke McCown, Garrett Grayson, Griffin Neal RB (5) Mark Ingram, Tim Hightower, C.J. Spiller, Marcus Murphy, Travaris Cadet, Vick Ballard FB (1) Austin Johnson, Toben Opurum WR (2) Brandon Coleman, Kyle Prater :!: LT (2) Terron Armstead, Andrus Peat LG (2) Cyril Lemon :!: C (2) Max Unger, Senio Kelemete RG (1) Tim Lelito RT (1) Zach Strief, Bryan Witzmann TE (3) Coby Fleener, Josh Hill, Michael Hoomanawanui, Jack Tabb, Chris Manhertz, RaShaun Allen WR (2) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead, Shane Wynn, Reggie Bell, R.J. Harris DEFENSE RDE/5T (2) Cameron Jordan, Bobby Richardson, Obum Gwacham, Phillip Hunt NG/1T (3) John Jenkins, Tyeler Davison, Kaleb Eulls, Ashaad Mabry :!: LDE/3T (2) Nick Fairley, Tavaris Barnes :!: JLB/9T (2) Hau'oli Kikaha, Kasim Edebali, Davis Tull SLB (2) Stephone Anthony, Mike Mauti MLB (2) James Laurinaitis, Craig Robertson WLB (2) Dannell Ellerbe, Nate Stupar :!: RCB (3) Keenan Lewis, Damian Swann, Brian Dixon, Brandon Dixon :!: SS (3) Kenny Vaccaro, Jamarca Sanford, Erik Harris, Vinnie Sunseri FS (2) Jairus Byrd, Alden Darby :!: LCB (2) Delvin Breaux, Kyle Wilson, P.J. Williams, Tony Carter KICKING K (1) Kai Forbath, Josh Scobee P (1) Thomas Morstead LS (1) Justin Drescher Projected Starter Reserve/Injured Reserve/Future :!: = Draft Priority, Need |
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With at least seven roster spots of need, don't see us moving up in the draft, combining draft picks...
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