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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - Early, PreContact 53 Man Prediction

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco

FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 81 - Jordan Williams

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Ryker Mathews

LG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui

SR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead


DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 93 - David Onyemata

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison

DE (2) 98 - Bobby Richardson, 91 - Kasim Edebali

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson

WLB (3) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 55 - Davis Tull

LCB (3) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 25 - P.J. Williams, 20 - Brian Dixon

FS (2) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell

SS (3) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 41 - Roman Harper

RCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 27 - Damian Swann


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Connor Barth

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher


INJURED RESERVE

LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha
FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford



Projected Starter

Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Future/UDRFA

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 25, Defense - 25, Kicking - 3, Total Roster - 53

Note: * 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially put on IR nor IR-To Return

Couple of Things:

Listed Davis Tull as a LB because I see his role in pass rush subpackages this season from the edge; while he's been a Line/Edge Backer, I could also see him developing into a quality MLB or even a WLB with his physical skill set...

Once the game gets physical, I expect to see some surprises among the defensive backs; Byrd and Westbank are very vulnerable.

Speaking of Oft-injured defenders, Ellerbe is another guy on shaky ground as Roberston may actually be better; that, plus 57 - Dillon Lee continuing to make plays when hitting starts could make that interesting.

Can also possibly see a position change of sorts for Damian Swann to safety, making Harper expendable; then Kyle Williams makes the team or if a rookie like 49 - De’Vante Harris or 43 - Jimmy Pruitt can jump out and show good gunner skills.

Can see the Saints making a Training Camp trade for another wide receiver; for now I have the receiver Williams because Payton will want some more size; Coleman is not a lock to make this roster.

Richardson and Gwachum is a tossup, Saints want pass rush more than rush defense and Richardson offers nothing in the pass rush; when the contact starts my eyes will first be on Gwachum; on second thought, Richardson does a good job of sealing the edge and Edebali could rotate in on third and long so that'd work...

Saints have really brought in quality depth and player flexibility at critical positions (e.g. Cornerback, Edge Defender, 3T Tackle) as injuries are an inevitable part training camp

Landon Turner or 79 - Joseph Cheek will be the eighth offensive lineman; tossup here that could go either way; Joe Cheek may need a couple of seasons, but like Ryker Mathews, both are future NFL starters...

Really liked the Saints brought back 96 - Lawrence Virgil as both he or 96 - Ashaad Mabry could make Jenkins expendable a year early; expect one or both to get a "Redshirt" Season as the Saints ride out Jenkins this season...

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I'm really interested to watch Jimmy Pruitt at training camp as well as David Onyemata.

There will be some tough cuts this year.

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It's been a while since we were able to make that statement.

Pruitt and Harris should be interesting.

Onyemata pushes Richardson.

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Why is Tim Lelito playing with the two's?

Where will Davis Tull play?

Who will be the fourth and fifth wide receivers?

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Most NFL teams are in the nickel at least 60% of the time. Not to mention our Saints even more 4-3/3-4 ... Tull needs to be on the edge. I think he is a situational pass rusher at best.

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Yeah, and I don't know that Coleman offers enough in the way of the kicking game to be a lock for a roster spot...

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 June OTAs

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco

FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson, 39 - Sione Houma

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Ryker Mathews, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 65 - Senio Kelemete, 68 - Tim Lelito, 78 - Landon Turner

C (1) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Cyril Lemon, 71 - Kaleb Eulls

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 74 - Tyrus Thompson, 67 - Avery Young

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen, 80 - Jack Tabb, 86 - Chris Manhertz

SR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead, 14 - R.J. Harris, 11 - Reggie Bell, 87 - TommyLee Lewis, 19 - Jake Lampmann


DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 77 - D.J. Pettway

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 96 - Lawrence Virgil

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata

LEO (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward

MLB (3) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 57 - Dillon Lee

RCB (3) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 27 - Damian Swann, 29 - Tony Carter, 49 - De’Vante Harris

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 41 - Roman Harper

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 26 - Trae Elston, 42 - Alden Darby

LCB (2) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 25 - P.J. Williams, 20 - Brian Dixon, 37 - Brandon Dixon, 46 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt


KICKING

K (1) 5 - Kai Forbath, 3 - Connor Barth

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 45 - Garrett Griffin


RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 76 - 76 - Mitchell Loewen (NFIN)


Projected Starter

Reserve/Injured

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 44, Defense - 41, Kicking - 5, Total Roster - 90

Note: * 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially put on IR nor IR-To Return

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Saints Announce Roster Moves

Posted Jun 24, 2016
By NewOrleansSaints.com

The Saints announced that they have placed CB Kyle Wilson on the reserve/injured list and have signed DT C.J. Wilson

The New Orleans Saints announced today that they have placed CB Kyle Wilson on the reserve/injured list and have signed DT C.J. Wilson. The announcements were made by Saints’ Executive Vice President/General Manager Mickey Loomis.

Wilson, 6-3, 290, comes to New Orleans after splitting the 2015 season between the Oakland Raiders and Detroit Lions. He opened the year appearing in four games with one start for the Raiders and recorded five tackles (two solo). In eight games for Detroit, he posted eight tackles (six solo) and one sack. Originally a seventh round choice (230th overall) of the Green Bay Packers in the 2010 NFL Draft out of East Carolina, the Belhaven, N.C. native has played in 78 career games with 19 starts over six seasons with the Packers, Raiders and Lions, accumulating 150 tackles (84 solo), 6.5 sacks for a total loss of 27 yards, one pass defensed and one fumble recovery. The East Carolina standout appeared in eight postseason games with three starts for the Packers from 2010-2013, recording 24 tackles (14 solo) and one sack, and was part of Green Bay’s Super Bowl XLV championship team.

Source: NewOrleansSaints.com - Saints Announce Roster Moves

Comment: This was what I was referring; we don't need four (4) standouts on the defensive line; we need a healthy rotation of seven-eight defensive linemen and to just keep bringing the heat by keeping the horses fresh through four (4) quarters...

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Pre-Training Camp ***UPDATED***

DEFENSIVE LINE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson/98 - C.J. Wilson, 77 - D.J. Pettway

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 96 - Lawrence Virgil

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata

LEO (3) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

Projected Starter

Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Future/UDRFA

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Figure on Saints keeping between eight (8), maybe nine (9) defensive linemen on the final (53) intial roster...

[B]Early Rankings of our defensive line would be:

1. 94 - Cameron Jordan - Incorrectly utilized as a weakside DE, Jack LBer and coming off offseason back surgery (which is very serious) should be ready to lead unit.
2. 90 - Nick Fairley - Some guys you just have to keep the carrot in front of 'em; all the talent in the world, does the light finally go off and Fairley finds a home?
3. 99 - Sheldon Rankins - wasn't high on using first round pick to select due to lack of size and for Saints interior need, but he's carried himself well in OTAs...
4. 91 - Kasim Edebali - (music que - Eminem's Lose Yourself) Impressive Sacks/Opportunities ratio, but if ever there was a chance for a guy to control his destiny...
5. 92 - John Jenkins - Bulked up, Lost Weight, changed position and technique and the coaches, who've changed as much, can't understand his stunted progression?
6. 95 - Tyeler Davison - projected NT coming out of college, he's been a top reserve who's learning to a warrior in the NFL trenches...
7. 98 - C.J. Wilson - Late FA addition that won't blow anyone away but is an "innings eater" who'll give quality snaps; part of a Green Bay DL rotation that won a Superbowl
8. 98 - Bobby Richardson - Walk-on who earned a starting gig last season because of lack of depth; he's a liability in pass rush and must change that.
9. 93 - David Onyemata - Good quickness in small area with impressive strength and bulk, but can he be a quickstudy to justify the roster space?
10. 58 - Obum Gwacham - Former WR who's trusted coaches and worked to bulk to 255+, but still looks too lean to anchor the edge - better 3-4 fit.
11. 55 - Davis Tull - Phenomenal athlete, played against lesser collegiate competition, should be receiving more attention but is D.A. even interested?!?
12. 96 - Ashaad Mabry - Man's man from humble background who's worked to learn the NFL game and physically compete, but will the progression be there?
13. 96 - Lawrence Virgil - Disappointing injury led to his release, great size and strength, but raw and inexperienced coming from a small-school program
14. 77 - D.J. Pettway - Buried on a deep Bama, he did practice against some of the best offensive linemen to enter the NFL the past few years

Defensive Linemen to watch who're likely to move up:
55 - Davis Tull
96 - Ashaad Mabry
93 - David Onyemata



Notes/Observations:

*44 - Hau'oli Kikaha is likely lost for most, if not the entire season due to a third lifetime knee injury; he would have been ranked third (3rd)

What will be key is keeping the horses fresh so that the Saints can generate a pass rush with four (4) down linemen...

A unit strength that pops out is that many individual players do have versatility (e.g. 94 - Cameron Jordan, 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 95 - Tyeler Davison & 93 - David Onyemata)...

Of course while having that flexibility will be a plus from week to week, it'll put the onus on D.A. to find best possible match ups...

While Davis Tull was a DE in college and is ideally suited as a 3-4 OLB in the NFL, he could still be shifted to backup Anthony at the SAM...

It seemed early on that the base defense would be a mimic of Seattle's 4-3 under as this scheme would get the top front seven players on the field at one time...

...now with the Kikaha injury, we may see a more traditional 4-3 where you'd have a four-man DE rotation of Jordan, Richardson/Wilson, Edebali and Onyemata and a four-man DT rotation of Fairley, Rankins, Jenkins and Davison...


DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 93 - David Onyemata

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins

DE (3) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 98 - Bobby Richardson/98 - C.J. Wilson


That being the case, if a tremendous impression is made by Tull, Gwachum and/or Pettway, you could see as many as nine (9) defensive linemen make the roster...

Provided there are no more (nevermind)...

Despite the unfortunate, devastating news of the Kikaha injury (God Be With Him), I believe this can be the most improved unit for the team on the talent infusion alone; still would have liked a new defensive line coach...

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Make no mistake, the Saints are doing everything they can to make sure they have a consistent rush with the base four up front on the defensive line...

Defensive Line Battles

Nose Tackle - John Jenkins, Tyeler Davison, Ashaad Mabry, Lawrence Virgil

Jenkins, last year of rookie contract will be pushed and will be expendable if Mabry and/or Lawrence can be an able backup; Davison better not sleep either as that back two on this list have the size and hunger to make it happen...

Defensive Tackle - Nick Fairley, Sheldon Rankins, David Onyemata

This will be more of a battle of 1 and 1A, Saints did a great job of setting this up to bring Rankins along in the NFL; Onyemata can play along the DL so there will be flexibility for him making the team so Payton can justify the move to select him...

Defensive End - Cam Jordan, Kasim Edebali, Bobby Richardson, C.J. Wilson, Obum Gwachum, Davis Tull, David Onyemata, D.J. Pettway

May see as many as five from this group make the 53 man roster; C.J. Wilson vs Bobby Richardson, Davis Tull vs Obum Gwachum, David Onyemata vs D.J. Pettway will be some good battles in camp...

What really will make this a puzzle is that the onus will be on the one-dimensional players like John Jenkins, Tyeler Davison, Ashaad Mabry, Lawrence Virgil, Davis Tull, Obum Gwachum, D.J. Pettway to have outstanding camps as players like Nick Fairley, Sheldon Rankins, C.J. Wilson, Bobby Richardson can move inside and out for matchups, injuries et cetera will have an advantage make the roster...

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Pre-Camp

LINEBACKERS

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 57 - Dillon Lee

LEO (3) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

Projected Starter Entering Training Camp

Reserve/Injured

Draft Pick/Future/UDRFA

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Saints will probably keep six (6), maybe seven (7) linebackers on the final (53) initial roster; the Line/End Linebackers (LEO) were counted against the defensive line group, though either Edebali, Gwachum and/or Tull could be grouped with the linebackers as the Saints have 'em listed...

Early Rankings of our Linebackers would be:

1. 50 - Stephone Anthony - spend a first round pick on a linebacker and voila' - he was outstanding; relieved of MIKE duties in favour of Laurinaitis' experience
2. 53 - James Laurinaitis - one of the better MLB in the game; thought to be on the decline from a shoulder injury; brought in for defensive field general duties...
3. 52 - Craig Robertson - will challenge for the WLB starting position as this guy can run; is also a very capable MLB with great instincts and good preparation
4. 59 - Dannell Ellerbe - if he could only stay healthy, he'd be a pro-bowler, but missing five or more games can't be accepted, no matter the upside...
5. 54 - Nate Stupar - from Penn St LB tradition and when given a chance, hasn't disappointed; will enhance special teams and has started at both WLB or MLB.
6. 91 - Kasim Edebali - Has very limited coverage ability and change of direction, more of a pure pass rusher, smallish Defensive End
7. 55 - Davis Tull - Elite athlete with uphill battle for Allen to make Tull a priority to find him a featured role; an ideal 34 LB, but that's not gonna happen with DA...
8. 56 - Mike Mauti - Legacy player brought in for depth and special teams play; graded well last season when he played, though rarely tested...
9. 57 - Dillon Lee - versatile, team player who sacrificed the spotlight, playing whereever asked and has great experience at all the linebacker positions...
10. 58 - Obum Gwacham - Converted defender who's added muscle, but still looks too lean to anchor the edge as a DE, could better his chances as a SLB
11. 97 - Tony Steward - good athlete who's had injury and personal misfortunes early on in his NFL career, trying to make the show...
12. 51 - Jeff Schoettmer - Carolina MIKE Backer who was a standout leader making sure his teammates were lined up, has minimum NFL athleticism
13. 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha - is likely lost for most, if not the entire season due to a third lifetime knee injury; he would have been ranked third (3rd)

Linebackers to watch who're likely to move up:
52 - Craig Robertson
55 - Davis Tull
57 - Dillon Lee


Notes/Observations:

• While Davis Tull was a college DE and is an ideal a 3-4 NFL OLB, he could easily shift to SLB or WLB and has sideline to sideline athleticism as a MLBer...
  
• ...with the Kikaha injury, in addition to the recent stockpiling of 4-3 D-linemen in Lawrence Virgil and C.J. Wilson, we're likely to see a traditional 4-3 where linebackers will be expected to be thumpers behind the defensive linemen on running plays and drop back in zone coverage on passing plays...
  
• If I were Dannell Ellerbe, I wouldn't buy property; his inability to stay healthy is probably one of the biggest reasons we signed so many linebackers...
  
• Could you imagine this linebacker corps if we had spent the money on Broncos Linebacker Danny Trevathan instead of Colby Fleener?
  
• When a top ten underrated list of 2016 Free Agent Signings is done next year James Laurinaitis, Craig Robertson and Nate Stupar should be on that list...
  
• Edebali and Gwachum had better be jump out as pass rushers are they're going be quickly on the outside, looking in...
  
• Watch out for LB Dillon Lee out of Alabama, being moved around at Bama did him no favors as a collegiate standout, but will be a big seller in the NFL...
  
• IF Kikaha doesn't hurt himself, we could have looked really poised as a 3-4 front with plenty of depth...
  
• Like many of our defensive linemen, the theme of versatility, being able to play more than one position will also be a characteristic of the linebacking corps..

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 June OTAs

LG (2) 65 - Senio Kelemete, 68 - Tim Lelito, 78 - Landon Turner

RG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Cyril Lemon, 71 - Kaleb Eulls


Whoa Nelly :bugeyes:! ... the current depth at GUARD is not looking all that promising.

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Guard depth could be better, but I'd say it's better than where we were this time last year...

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And don't forget, Joe Cheek played Guard at Texas A & M because Matthews was the Tackle...

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 June PreCamp

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco

FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson, 39 - Sione Houma

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Ryker Mathews, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 65 - Senio Kelemete, 68 - Tim Lelito, 78 - Landon Turner

C (1) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Cyril Lemon, 71 - Kaleb Eulls

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 74 - Tyrus Thompson, 67 - Avery Young

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen, 80 - Jack Tabb, 86 - Chris Manhertz

SR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead, 14 - R.J. Harris, 11 - Reggie Bell, 87 - TommyLee Lewis, 19 - Jake Lampmann


DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 98 - C.J. Wilson, 77 - D.J. Pettway

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 96 - Lawrence Virgil

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata

LEO (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

SLB (3) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 57 - Dillon Lee

RCB (3) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 27 - Damian Swann, 29 - Tony Carter, 49 - De’Vante Harris

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 41 - Roman Harper

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 26 - Trae Elston, 42 - Alden Darby

LCB (2) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 25 - P.J. Williams, 20 - Brian Dixon, 37 - Brandon Dixon, 46 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt


KICKING

K (1) 5 - Kai Forbath, 3 - Connor Barth

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 45 - Garrett Griffin


RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen (NFIN)

LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially put on IR nor IR-To Return

Projected Starter

Reserve/Injured

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 44, Defense - 41, Kicking - 5, Total Roster - 90

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Cooks really needs to step us in this his third year; 1200 rec yds, 14 rec tds is what I'm thinking...

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Great review of our linebackers JP! I honestly don't know much about this Dillon Lee but what I'm reading has me very intrigued. I really hope Craig Robertson gets the starting WLB job because he's tremendously good in coverage. Why was he available as a bargain basement free agent? What am I missing because I watch this guy and he's a playmaker.

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It was good we got VET LB's this off season. We have to TWO gap. Moving Anthony to Sam allows him to play behind Cam Jordan so whatever gap Jordan doesn't penetrate is Anthony's responsibility making his reads cleaner.

Ellerbe/Craig Robertson/Stupar/James L are all good LBs that should have no trouble with their reads at the MLB and WLB position.

Dennis Allen has full control of the D (see Greg W in 2009). Coach em up.

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It will be interesting to see what TULL can do next month once they have on full gear. I understand his first two steps are explosive.

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 June PreCamp Projected 53

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco

FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson

WR (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 81 - Jordan Williams

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Ryker Mathews

LG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui

SR (3) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead, 14 - R.J. Harris


DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 69 - C.J. Wilson

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison

DT (3) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata

LEO (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 55 - Davis Tull

WLB (2) 52 - Craig Robertson, 57 - Dillon Lee

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 54 - Nate Stupar

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti

RCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 27 - Damian Swann

SS (3) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 41 - Roman Harper

FS (2) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell

LCB (3) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 25 - P.J. Williams, 20 - Brian Dixon


KICKING

K (1) 3 - Connor Barth

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher


RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen (NFIN)

LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially put on IR nor IR-To Return

Projected Starter

Reserve/Injured

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 44, Defense - 41, Kicking - 5, Total Roster - 90

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Lots of interesting cuts JP. No Coleman, Richardson, Ellerbe or Gwacham?

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Dillon Lee may not be the fastest guy out there but he is smart and knows how to play. preseason UDFA defender to make the cut and be a huge fan favorite on special teams by season end.

Mauti and Lee could be a huge pairing for special teams. sealing up the middle of the field.

Still looking for the gunners

De’Vante Harris?

good write up JP

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Coleman is a tough one, but he's got issues with the handles on the ball and in our West Coast possession game, we can't afford stonehands...

The back half of the receiving corps I expect to be in flux through the first half of the season; expect a veteran to be added (e.g. Aaron Dobson, Jake Kumerow) OR...

The Saints may add a young prospect or two that may get pushed out on their teams and would do better to develop in Payton's system (Moritz Böhringer and/or Max McCaffrey)...

Richardson I think gets pushed out in a numbers game between Onyemata and the late FA addition C.J. Wilson who comes from a rotation system that reflects the moves in free agency...

Ellerbe is another numbers cut, plus allocating a roster spot to a guy that hasn't played a full season in, what? four years? Sad, because he's a great talent...

Edebali v. Tull v. Gwachum...upside? Tull hands down, so it becomes an experience vs current ability between Edebali and Gwachum...

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Brian Dixon and Erik Harris will be your gunners, and they'll be some good ones at that...

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Dixon needs a break out season. his tackling does not thrill me one bit. Nor does his on the field awareness.

Erik Harris out on the wing? I can see him in between say De’Vante Harris and Mauti.

love all the new blood

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Don't know Hagan, Dixon has made some quality plays at the gunner position...

He's been a real find for us in the UDFA Gem mine...

Harris was brought in specifically for that gunner position, sort of what they envisioned for Marcus Ball...

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I thought I read somewhere that Daniel Lasco was going to be playing that role... I can't remember if that was just media speculation or something coach said.

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I'll try finding that tell as well...

Watching Lasco's film while at Cal, his skill set, puts him as a Roger Craig style of running back...

How this guy was still around in round 7 is beyond me...

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I see a lot of Arian Foster in him. IMO it is gonna take at least two injuries to see Lasco in the "main/back up role".

If he doesn't pan out, no worries ... 7th round pick ;).

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Ingram hasn't finished a season healthy...

Hightower has never really played an entire season...

So I could see Lasco eventually getting his opportunities...

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 July PreCamp

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco

FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson, 39 - Sione Houma

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Ryker Mathews, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 65 - Senio Kelemete, 68 - Tim Lelito, 78 - Landon Turner

C (1) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Cyril Lemon, 71 - Kaleb Eulls

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 74 - Tyrus Thompson, 67 - Avery Young

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen, 80 - Jack Tabb, 86 - Chris Manhertz

SR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead, 14 - R.J. Harris, 11 - Reggie Bell, 87 - TommyLee Lewis, 19 - Jake Lampmann


DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 69 - C.J. Wilson, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 77 - D.J. Pettway

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 76 - Lawrence Virgil

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata

LEO (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

SLB (3) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 57 - Dillon Lee

RCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 27 - Damian Swann, 29 - Tony Carter, 49 - De’Vante Harris

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 26 - Trae Elston, 42 - Alden Darby

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 41 - Roman Harper

LCB (3) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 25 - P.J. Williams, 20 - Brian Dixon, 37 - Brandon Dixon, 46 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt


KICKING

K (1) 5 - Kai Forbath, 3 - Connor Barth

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 45 - Garrett Griffin


RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen (NFIN)

LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially put on IR nor IR-To Return

Projected Starter

Reserve/Injured

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 44, Defense - 41, Kicking - 5, Total Roster - 90

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Pre-Camp

RUNNING BACKS

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 34 - Tim Hightower, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco

FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson, 39 - Sione Houma

Projected Starter Entering Training Camp

Reserve/Injured

Draft Pick/Future/UDRFA

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Saints will probably keep five (5), Running Backs and one (1) Full Back on the final (53) initial roster...

Early Rankings of our Running Backs:

1. 22 - Mark Ingram - RB who's had the most invested in him and debatable he's produced to justify those investment; regardless he's a a quality back and fit to this offense...
2. 28 - C.J. Spiller - Disappointing free agent acquisition, he turns it on this season or gets added to the list of FA failures for the Saints; could be real special in this offense...
3. 34 - Tim Hightower - Finally had a healthy season as a Pro, may not have the same first step, agility he had as a Cardinal, but did well behind an underrated Saints offensive line...
4. 35 - Austin Johnson - Not only a quality Fullback, but played linebacker in college making him another quality player on special teams; in today's offenses the fullback has all but disappeared, but he provides advantages at the goal line...
5. 38 - Travaris Cadet - Returned to the Saints while improving himself as an all around player, will need to be special as a returner to make this team...
6. 23 - Marcus Murphy - Surprise 7th round pick who had the misfortune of not being able to play with Darren Sproles, who with more effort on Murphy's part, could develop into that All-Purpose Yards threat...
7. 36 - Daniel Lasco - Injured his senior year and fell in the draft, Lasco comes in the mould of a Roger Craig-type speed back with great hands and ability to turn the corner...
8. 39 - Sione Houma - Houma would be an instant favorite on a team in the 1980's, but there can be only one fullback, if that, and he lacks the speed to contend as a ball carrier...

Running Back most likely to move up:
36 - Daniel Lasco


Notes/Observations:

• Mark Ingram's was the absolute right choice for the Saints to re-sign, but Ingram has never really justified the picks it took to select him and that is as much on the coaches/front office as Ingram; it's be nice to see him play sixteen games and finally be an All-Pro...
  
• Spiller has got to find away to step up, man up and stay available on the field; there was some grumbling that he also wasn't as prepared for games as he should be; the Lasco selection could make him expendable...
  
• As mentioned in a comparison earlier, Marcus Murphy has got to develop as intense a work ethic as Darren Sproles had while with the Saints; Saints really screwed the pooch not keeping Sproles, not only for what he brought to the offense, but what he did as a role model in the weight room...
  
• Cadet would be a coach's dream as a No. 3, change of pace running back and may not make this team...
  
• Austin Johnson reminds of a Patriots' type of player, multi-faceted, multi-role and are the kind of players the Saints would be wise to hold on to...
  
• Not many saw that much left in Hightower's game last season; let's see how he does not that people will see him coming this time...
  
• If Daniel Lasco can make the roster as a rookie, watch for him to develop as an absolute star in Payton's offense; he could end up being Mark Ingram and Pierre Thomas rolled into one - all on a seventh round pick investment!

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A little more on DL C.J. Wilson...

C.J. Wilson to Saints: Latest Contract Details, Comments, Reaction | Bleacher Report

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New Orleans Saints receiver R.J. Harris willing to play defense to make roster | NOLA.com

Patriots - South ?!?

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Good thing QB Luke McCown is on the depth chart; does Brees also have alligators in the pool?!?

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Nice write up on the RB.

Major concern is the laundry list of past injuries with almost the entire back field

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And that's why we'll keep at least five (5) RBs and one (1) FB...

And if that number isn't hit in the initial roster, it will be because of underwhelming performance in training camp and better options on the waiver wire...

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Top Five (5) Saints Who'd Be Most Likely To Be Traded

(1) NT John Jenkins (Would be a better fit for a 3-4 team)

(2) RB C.J. Spiller (Have a theory he's unhappy still being a No. 2 RB)

(3) QB Luke McCown (If Grayson comes on, how valuable a trade chip would he be?)

(4) LB Obum Gwachum (Would be a better fit for a 3-4 team)

(5) FS Jairus Byrd (It may be time to end the investment and just move on)