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jeanpierre 06-09-2016 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 706226)
New Orleans Saints' Marcus Murphy seeks expanded role in offense | NOLA.com

Here's to hoping MM improves this season - minus the fumbles.

Seems the vision for him was as a "Sproles-back"...

Wished he could have played one season with Darren Sproles and learned the work ethic, dedication it takes to be an All-Purpose Yardage Leader...

Sproles opened the offense up like no one except maybe Bush, and even then, Darren was head and shoulders above Reggie in that regard...

Not sure what Spiller will bring, if anything, to this offense...

Really want BOTH Murphy and Lasco and to win out the No. 2 and No. 3 spots behind Ingram...

jeanpierre 06-10-2016 07:52 AM

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 June OTAs

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco

FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson, 39 - Sione Houma

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 17 - Kyle Prater

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 79 - Joseph Cheek, 70 - Ryker Mathews

LG (2) 65 - Senio Kelemete, 68 - Tim Lelito, 71 - Kaleb Eulls

C (1) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 78 - Landon Turner, 62 - Cyril Lemon

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 74 - Tyrus Thompson, 67 - Avery Young

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen, 80 - Jack Tabb, 86 - Chris Manhertz

SR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead, 14 - R.J. Harris, 11 - Reggie Bell, 87 - TommyLee Lewis, 19 - Jake Lampmann


DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 77 - D.J. Pettway

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata

LEO (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward

MLB (3) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 57 - Dillon Lee

RCB (3) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 24 - Kyle Wilson, 25 - P.J. Williams, 29 - Tony Carter, 49 - De’Vante Harris

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 33 - Jamarca Sanford, 30 - Erik Harris, 41 - Roman Harper

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 42 - Alden Darby, 26 - Trae Elston

LCB (2) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 27 - Damian Swann, 20 - Brian Dixon, 37 - Brandon Dixon, 46 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt


KICKING

K (1) 5 - Kai Forbath, 3 - Connor Barth

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 45 - Garrett Griffin


Projected Starter

Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Future/UDRFA

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 43, Defense - 43, Kicking - 4, Total Roster - 90

Note: * 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially put on IR nor IR-To Return

K Major 06-10-2016 08:01 AM

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Someone on this roster (specifically Defense) needs to step up in a BIG way for 2016.

jeanpierre 06-10-2016 08:34 AM

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 706407)
Someone on this roster (specifically Defense) needs to step up in a BIG way for 2016.

Major...

Need a Free Safety to step up and finish strong; whether Kenny V shifts over or Vonn Bell steps in and replaces Byrd...

Need all four (4) starters on the defensive line to create a legitimate pass rush without the added blitzer...

Need linebacker chemistry, continuity...

Need a young, complimentary cornerback to Del Breaux...

K Major 06-10-2016 08:50 AM

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 706408)
Major...

Need all four (4) starters on the defensive line to create a legitimate pass rush without the added blitzer...

+1. This will be one of the most intriguing and anticipated battles to watch.

CheramieIII 06-10-2016 09:47 AM

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
I still love the personnel on defense this year compared to last. No glaring holes yet!

jeanpierre 06-11-2016 11:00 AM

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 June OTAs ***UPDATED***

DEFENSIVE LINE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 77 - D.J. Pettway

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata

LEO (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

Projected Starter

Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Future/UDRFA

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Figure on Saints keeping between eight (8), maybe nine (9) defensive linemen on the final (53) intial roster...

Early Rankings of our defensive line would be:
  1. 94 - Cameron Jordan - Incorrectly utilized as a weakside DE, Jack LBer and coming off offseason back surgery (which is very serious) should be ready to lead unit.
  2. 90 - Nick Fairley - Some guys you just have to keep the carrot in front of 'em; all the talent in the world, does the light finally go off and Fairley finds a home?
  3. 99 - Sheldon Rankins - wasn't high on using first round pick to select due to lack of size and for Saints interior need, but he's carried himself well in OTAs...
  4. 91 - Kasim Edebali - (music que - Eminem's Lose Yourself) Impressive Sacks/Opportunities ratio, but if ever there was a chance for a guy to control his destiny...
  5. 98 - Bobby Richardson - Walkon who earned a starting gig last season because of lack of depth; he's a liability in pass rush and must change that.
  6. 92 - John Jenkins - Bulked up, Lost Weight, changed position and technique and the coaches, who've changed as much, can't understand his stunted progression?
  7. 95 - Tyeler Davison - projected NT coming out of college, he's been a top reserve who's learning to a warrior in the NFL trenches...
  8. 93 - David Onyemata - Good quickness in small area with impressive strength and bulk, but can he be a quickstudy to justify the roster space?
  9. 58 - Obum Gwacham - Former WR who's trusted coaches and worked to bulk to 255+, but still looks too lean to anchor the edge - better 3-4 fit.
  10. 55 - Davis Tull - Phenomenal athlete, played against lesser collegiate competition, should be receiving more attention but is D.A. even interested?!?
  11. 96 - Ashaad Mabry - Man's man from humble background who's worked to learn the NFL game and physically compete, but will the progression be there?
  12. 77 - D.J. Pettway - Buried on a deep Bama, he did practice against some of the best offensive linemen to enter the NFL the past few years

Defensive Linemen to watch who're likely to move up:
55 - Davis Tull
96 - Ashaad Mabry
93 - David Onyemata



Notes/Observations:

*44 - Hau'oli Kikaha is likely lost for most, if not the entire season due to a third lifetime knee injury; he would have been ranked third (3rd)

What will be key is keeping the horses fresh so that the Saints can generate a pass rush with four (4) down linemen...

A unit strength that pops out is that many individual players do have versatility (e.g. 94 - Cameron Jordan, 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 95 - Tyeler Davison & 93 - David Onyemata)...

Of course while having that flexibility will be a plus from week to week, it'll put the onus on D.A. to find best possible match ups...

While Davis Tull was a DE in college and is ideally suited as a 3-4 OLB in the NFL, he could still be shifted to backup Anthony at the SAM...

It seemed early on that the base defense would be a mimic of Seattle's 4-3 under as this scheme would get the top front seven players on the field at one time...

...now with the Kikaha injury, we may see a more traditional 4-3 where you'd have a four-man DE rotation of Jordan, Richardson, Edebali and Onyemata and a four-man DT rotation of Fairley, Rankins, Jenkins and Davison...


DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 93 - David Onyemata

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins

DE (2) 98 - Bobby Richardson, 91 - Kasim Edebali


That being the case, if a tremendous impression is made by Tull, Gwachum and/or Pettway, you could see as many as nine (9) defensive linemen make the roster...

Provided there are no more (nevermind)...

Despite the unfortunate, devastating news of the Kikaha injury (God Be With Him), I believe this can be the most improved unit for the team on the talent infusion alone; still would have liked a new defensive line coach...

K Major 06-11-2016 02:19 PM

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 706503)
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 June OTAs ***UPDATED***

Despite the unfortunate, devastating news of the Kikaha injury (God Be With Him), I believe this can be the most improved unit for the team on the talent infusion alone; still would have liked a new defensive line coach...[/B]

If Bill Johnson can't get it done THIS season, it's time to look else where. Too many talented guys in the trenches for us not to substantially improve.

ChrisXVI 06-11-2016 02:38 PM

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Great D-Line write up JP! I was nervous about that weak side DE position BEFORE Kikaha went down so I'm trying hard to stay optimistic. Not only do these guys have to battle it out against each other but they have to do it against one of the best left tackles in the league in Armstead. We should know REAL quick which guys have any shot at being an adequate starter.

jeanpierre 06-11-2016 03:54 PM

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 706413)
I still love the personnel on defense this year compared to last. No glaring holes yet!

Knock that sh*t off, Cher!

Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 706521)
If Bill Johnson can't get it done THIS season, it's time to look else where. Too many talented guys in the trenches for us not to substantially improve.

Not only Johnson, but all the way up to Dennis Allen; in fact, Payton probably loses his virtual cloak of invincibility and really feels the pressure...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 706524)
Great D-Line write up JP! I was nervous about that weak side DE position BEFORE Kikaha went down so I'm trying hard to stay optimistic. Not only do these guys have to battle it out against each other but they have to do it against one of the best left tackles in the league in Armstead. We should know REAL quick which guys have any shot at being an adequate starter.

Thanks, Chris! Actually we've got a legitimate, at minimum, seven-man defensive line rotation which I prefer over four standouts with a drop-off to reserves...

Packers had similar front when they made their run a few years ago; and you're dead-on that both lines should test each's mettle, pushing towards higher-level play...

jeanpierre 06-11-2016 07:20 PM

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Fansided: Saints Hoping the 4-2-5 Can Lead to More W's by Barry Hirstius

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/b...0000375121.jpg

jeanpierre 06-12-2016 10:46 AM

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As was said on another thread, this is a set we should expect to see mucho of this season...

The 4-2-5, the "big nickel" with personnel something like...

DEFENSE

DE 94 - Cameron Jordan, 93 - David Onyemata

NT 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 95 - Tyeler Davison

DT 90 - Nick Fairley, 93 - David Onyemata

LEO 91 - Kasim Edebali, 55 - Davis Tull

WLB 52 - Craig Robertson, 54 - Nate Stupar

MLB 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 50 - Stephone Anthony

RCB 40 - Delvin Breaux, 25 - P.J. Williams

RFS 48 - Vonn Bell, 32 - Kenny Vaccaro

SS 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris

LFS 31 - Jairus Byrd, 27 - Damian Swann

LCB 21 - Keenan Lewis, 27 - Damian Swann

ChrisXVI 06-12-2016 12:40 PM

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Does anyone know how the Lions D-Line would line up when they had both Suh and Fairley? I know Suh is capable of being moved around but did Fairley get snaps playing the 1 tech/NT? Or did they line up in more of a wide 9 with both Suh and Fairley playing more of a left/right 3 tech?

jeanpierre 06-12-2016 01:44 PM

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 706591)
Does anyone know how the Lions D-Line would line up when they had both Suh and Fairley? I know Suh is capable of being moved around but did Fairley get snaps playing the 1 tech/NT? Or did they line up in more of a wide 9 with both Suh and Fairley playing more of a left/right 3 tech?

Some W-9, but there was some creativity...they'd also run some stunts with the two, whereby one would pull the double-team away while the other would engage the remaining blocker and bull rush that blocker to the passer; the DE would essentially be in one-to-one and would pull the OTs so far out that the DE could run underneath or use the positioning to seal the edge...

Surprisingly SI had a good write-up on it while they played together...

Break It Down: Lions getting creative with Nick Fairley and Ndamukong Suh | SI.com

ChrisXVI 06-12-2016 04:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 706592)
Some W-9, but there was some creativity...they'd also run some stunts with the two, whereby one would pull the double-team away while the other would engage the remaining blocker and bull rush that blocker to the passer; the DE would essentially be in one-to-one and would pull the OTs so far out that the DE could run underneath or use the positioning to seal the edge...

Surprisingly SI had a good write-up on it while they played together...

Break It Down: Lions getting creative with Nick Fairley and Ndamukong Suh | SI.com

Good stuff JP! The reason I asked was because I'm wondering if we'll try to get Rankins and Fairley on the field together more often and how might we go about it. Looking at how Detroit used Suh/Fairley might give our coaches some ideas.

jeanpierre 06-12-2016 11:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 706598)
Good stuff JP! The reason I asked was because I'm wondering if we'll try to get Rankins and Fairley on the field together more often and how might we go about it. Looking at how Detroit used Suh/Fairley might give our coaches some ideas.

I don't see how in the 3-Safety packages we don't have a front line of Cam Jordan - Sheldon Rankins - Nick Fairley - Kasim Edebali or TBD...

...And if we can't stop 3rd and Long then - then it will never be stopped until a defensive staff is hired by a strong GM and staffed by that GM...

hagan714 06-13-2016 06:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 706598)
Good stuff JP! The reason I asked was because I'm wondering if we'll try to get Rankins and Fairley on the field together more often and how might we go about it. Looking at how Detroit used Suh/Fairley might give our coaches some ideas.

I think we will see these two get a bulk of the playing time. unless John Jenkins or some other player steps up to be a NT in this defense that can provide constant production. those two will be the starters.

We should at the least be very quick.

Rugby Saint II 06-13-2016 11:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 706539)
Knock that sh*t off, Cher!



Not only Johnson, but all the way up to Dennis Allen; in fact, Payton probably loses his virtual cloak of invincibility and really feels the pressure...



Thanks, Chris! Actually we've got a legitimate, at minimum, seven-man defensive line rotation which I prefer over four standouts with a drop-off to reserves...

Packers had similar front when they made their run a few years ago; and you're dead-on that both lines should test each's mettle, pushing towards higher-level play...



Do you remember in '09 when Gregg Williams defense beat up the offense in training camp and they went to Payton to complain? Payton told them to man up and that season worked out well.:cool:

dizzle88 06-13-2016 11:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 706640)
[/B]
Do you remember in '09 when Gregg Williams defense beat up the offense in training camp and they went to Payton to complain? Payton told them to man up and that season worked out well.:cool:

The one thing I remember from training camp that year was a report that Brees had to be restrained because he and Vilma pretty much hated each other for a couple of months, only becsuse it was such an insanely close chess match between them every day, it made the team 10 times better.

jeanpierre 06-14-2016 09:53 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 706641)
The one thing I remember from training camp that year was a report that Brees had to be restrained because he and Vilma pretty much hated each other for a couple of months, only becsuse it was such an insanely close chess match between them every day, it made the team 10 times better.

Sometimes you gotta rattle the cages...

K Major 06-14-2016 10:03 AM

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It will be interesting to see what Erik Harris (former CFL'er) does in camp.

jeanpierre 06-14-2016 02:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 706732)
It will be interesting to see what Erik Harris (former CFL'er) does in camp.

Yes, if we could strike gold again as we have with Del Breaux, ohh babee...

jeanpierre 06-14-2016 03:27 PM

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 June OTAs

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco

FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson, 39 - Sione Houma

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Ryker Mathews, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 65 - Senio Kelemete, 68 - Tim Lelito, 78 - Landon Turner

C (1) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Cyril Lemon, 71 - Kaleb Eulls

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 74 - Tyrus Thompson, 67 - Avery Young

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen, 80 - Jack Tabb, 86 - Chris Manhertz

SR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead, 14 - R.J. Harris, 11 - Reggie Bell, 87 - TommyLee Lewis, 19 - Jake Lampmann


DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 77 - D.J. Pettway

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata

LEO (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward

MLB (3) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 57 - Dillon Lee

RCB (3) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 24 - Kyle Wilson, 25 - P.J. Williams, 29 - Tony Carter, 49 - De’Vante Harris

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 33 - Jamarca Sanford, 30 - Erik Harris, 41 - Roman Harper

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 42 - Alden Darby, 26 - Trae Elston

LCB (2) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 27 - Damian Swann, 20 - Brian Dixon, 37 - Brandon Dixon, 46 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt


KICKING

K (1) 5 - Kai Forbath, 3 - Connor Barth

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 45 - Garrett Griffin


Projected Starter

Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Future/UDRFA

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 43, Defense - 43, Kicking - 4, Total Roster - 90

Note: * 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially put on IR nor IR-To Return

ChrisXVI 06-14-2016 03:45 PM

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I'm pretty psyched to hear Gwacham is up to 270 lbs. He now has almost identical measurables to rookie Jason Pierre-Paul.

JPP
6' 5"
270 lbs
34 3/4" arms
10 3/8" hands
4.78 40 time
19 reps

Gwacham
6' 5"
270 lbs
34 3/8" arms
10" hands
4.72 40 time
22 reps

Of course I'm not saying he will be JPP, but he's physically ideal for the job.

CheramieIII 06-14-2016 04:36 PM

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Obum is actually ahead in strength and speed. Wow, better than JPP? We can only hope at this point and I be hopin!

jeanpierre 06-14-2016 11:34 PM

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jeanpierre 06-17-2016 09:18 AM

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jeanpierre 06-17-2016 10:35 AM

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 June Post OTAs

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco

FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson, 39 - Sione Houma

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Ryker Mathews, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 65 - Senio Kelemete, 68 - Tim Lelito, 78 - Landon Turner

C (1) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Cyril Lemon, 71 - Kaleb Eulls

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 74 - Tyrus Thompson, 67 - Avery Young

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen, 80 - Jack Tabb, 86 - Chris Manhertz

SR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead, 14 - R.J. Harris, 11 - Reggie Bell, 87 - TommyLee Lewis, 19 - Jake Lampmann


DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 77 - D.J. Pettway

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata

LEO (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward

MLB (3) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 57 - Dillon Lee

RCB (3) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 24 - Kyle Wilson, 27 - Damian Swann, 29 - Tony Carter, 49 - De’Vante Harris

FS (2) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 42 - Alden Darby, 26 - Trae Elston

SS (3) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 33 - Jamarca Sanford, 30 - Erik Harris, 41 - Roman Harper

LCB (2) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 25 - P.J. Williams, 20 - Brian Dixon, 37 - Brandon Dixon, 46 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt


KICKING

K (1) 5 - Kai Forbath, 3 - Connor Barth

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 45 - Garrett Griffin


Projected Starter

Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Future/UDRFA

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 43, Defense - 43, Kicking - 4, Total Roster - 90

Note: * 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially put on IR nor IR-To Return

jeanpierre 06-18-2016 04:04 AM

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ChrisXVI 06-18-2016 12:12 PM

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jeanpierre 06-18-2016 04:01 PM

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Really liked the signing of Lawrence Virgil...

Danno 06-18-2016 04:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 707151)
Really liked the signing of Lawrence Virgil...

I think there was some regret in letting him go originally. Virgil may not have star potential, but he damn sure has rotation potential.

jeanpierre 06-18-2016 07:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 707153)
I think there was some regret in letting him go originally. Virgil may not have star potential, but he damn sure has rotation potential.

Exactly! We don't need four All-Pro Defensive Linemen, but a rotation of six or seven defensive linemen up front, all with different "games", variety without a drop-off in play is the key and will keep the horses fresh for four quarters, sixteen games plus tournament play...

jeanpierre 06-18-2016 11:12 PM

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 June OTAs

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco

FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson, 39 - Sione Houma

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Ryker Mathews, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 65 - Senio Kelemete, 68 - Tim Lelito, 78 - Landon Turner

C (1) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Cyril Lemon, 71 - Kaleb Eulls

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 74 - Tyrus Thompson, 67 - Avery Young

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen, 80 - Jack Tabb, 86 - Chris Manhertz

SR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead, 14 - R.J. Harris, 11 - Reggie Bell, 87 - TommyLee Lewis, 19 - Jake Lampmann


DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 77 - D.J. Pettway

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 96 - Lawrence Virgil

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata

LEO (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward

MLB (3) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 57 - Dillon Lee

RCB (3) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 27 - Damian Swann, 24 - Kyle Wilson, 29 - Tony Carter, 49 - De’Vante Harris

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 41 - Roman Harper

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 26 - Trae Elston, 42 - Alden Darby

LCB (2) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 25 - P.J. Williams, 20 - Brian Dixon, 37 - Brandon Dixon, 46 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt


KICKING

K (1) 5 - Kai Forbath, 3 - Connor Barth

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 45 - Garrett Griffin


INJURED RESERVE

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford



Projected Starter

Reserve/Injured

Reserve/Future/UDRFA

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 44, Defense - 41, Kicking - 5, Total Roster - 90

Note: * 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially put on IR nor IR-To Return

CheramieIII 06-19-2016 08:32 AM

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 707168)
Exactly! We don't need four All-Pro Defensive Linemen, but a rotation of six or seven defensive linemen up front, all with different "games", variety without a drop-off in play is the key and will keep the horses fresh for four quarters, sixteen games plus tournament play...

Ditto on the rotation!

jeanpierre 06-20-2016 08:46 AM

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Five Players who are vulnerable, in my mind, on this team:

RT Zach Strief - Underrated player who's sabremetrics suggest same; age is a b*tch and the first round selection of Peat suggests same...

LG Tim Lelito - Underrappreciated former un-drafted rookie; Senio's been getting the snaps, but that could just be exploratory...

RB CJ Spiller - though it seemed like a 1-2 punch when Ingram, Spiller signed; the Back half can't get out the Trainers Room...

FS Jairus Byrd - it may be time to cut losses now and remove the distraction and reminder that sometimes Coach Payton is wrong...

CB Keenan Lewis - no one will question his heart, pride; but the physicality of the game has taken its toll on Lewis...


And I still think we should have brought in another punter...

K Major 06-20-2016 09:15 AM

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 707237)
RB CJ Spiller - though it seemed like a 1-2 punch when Ingram, Spiller signed; the Back half can't get out the Trainers Room...

Watch out here ^^ ... Coach has given CJ a clean bill of health coming off OTA's. Good players don't suddenly become terrible. The guy is still dangerous.

Fingers crossed that he remains healthy.

jeanpierre 06-20-2016 11:05 AM

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Who will be the Saints fifth receiver? - Canal Street Chronicles

I don't know that Coleman is a lock to make this roster...

K Major 06-20-2016 11:35 AM

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Hoping for the best from Brandon this year but do you remember just a couple of weeks ago Brees made a indirect reference about rookie WR Michael Thomas knew what he wanted & to make adjustments if he saw a certain coverage? This is where Coleman has struggled. If you aren't on the same page as Brees, there could be problems (trust/targets).

Coach Payton will give him his chance to shine in year 3 (see Toon). Good luck BC!

CheramieIII 06-20-2016 07:03 PM

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
Here's the projection from ESPN:

Saints' 53-man roster projection includes two undrafted offensive linemen - New Orleans Saints Blog- ESPN


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