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Jenkins would be a decent 1 tech for Rankins/Fairley (3 techs)



He bulked up to 260 and is going to be a damn fast "open"(weakside) defensive end...

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Sure, and that's where he's slotted to play; but if there's not much drop off from him to the others NTs on the depth chart, I can seem him getting moved because of his NT measurables and contract status quo...


Hey, I'm looking forward to seeing him with the pads on, hitting, contacting, pushing, getting pushed; I just thing he'd be even better off the line, standing up, in a tradition 3-4; for us, he's likely to be limited to 4-3 under sub package; 260 lbs ain't sh*t in the NFL for a true 4-3 DE - he'd get tossed like a toy...

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TC & subsequent pre season games will answer a lot of these questions.

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This is why I like the Darryl Tapp signing. What he lacks as a pass rusher he makes up for in being decent against the run. We have no idea if EdiGwachTull can hold up against the run. Heck, the RB we're going up against in week 1 (Latavius Murray) is the same size as Tull.

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 July PreCamp

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco

FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson, 39 - Sione Houma

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Ryker Mathews, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Cyril Lemon, 71 - Kaleb Eulls

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 74 - Tyrus Thompson, 67 - Avery Young

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen, 86 - Chris Manhertz

SR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead, 14 - R.J. Harris, 11 - Reggie Bell, 87 - TommyLee Lewis, 19 - Jake Lampmann


DEFENSE

WDE (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 76 - Lawrence Virgil

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 69 - C.J. Wilson

SDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 73 - Darryl Tapp, 77 - D.J. Pettway

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward

MLB (3) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 57 - Dillon Lee

RCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 27 - Damian Swann, 29 - Tony Carter, 46 - Ken Crawley, 49 - De’Vante Harris

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 26 - Trae Elston, 42 - Alden Darby

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 41 - Roman Harper

LCB (3) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 25 - P.J. Williams, 20 - Brian Dixon, 37 - Brandon Dixon, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt


KICKING

K (1) 5 - Kai Forbath, 3 - Connor Barth

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 45 - Garrett Griffin


RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen (NFIN)

*LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially designated IR nor IR-To Return

Projected Starter

Reserve/Injured

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 43, Defense - 42, Kicking - 5, Total Roster - 90

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Fansided: New Orleans Saints: 5 Players Who Should be Cut by Week 1

1). Michael Mauti, Linebacker
2). Tony Carter, Cornerback
3). Vincent Brown, Wide Receiver
4). Brian Dixon, Cornerback
5). Connor Barth, Kicker

Response:

• Mauti may be the most vulnerable of the veteran linebackers, but I got a gut feeling Saints' coaching already wants him back
  
• Hirstius is spot on that Carter is in the rear seat behind younger players P.J. Williams and Damian Swann
  
• Story has a problem with the Vincent Brown analysis, and that's that WR Brandon Coleman is no lock to make the team
  
• Dixon angle is spot on that it'll come down to him fighting off one of the young UDRFA like De’Vante Harris (in fact, should Harris flourish, more than just Dixon will be challenged)
  
• And with regards to the K Barth, I'd rather have the near perfect record inside the 45 yd line than Forbath's issues and only slight better percentage long range...

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This could get interesting by the end of training camp. Watched some highlights of Houma at Michigan. SOFT hands coming out of the backfield and was a really good blocker.

I don't think Austin is a "lock" at FB.

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PFF: RANKING ALL 32 NFL CORNERBACK GROUPS

The NFL has become a sub-package league. The transition is still on-going, and teams are moving in different directions with their fifth defensive back, but the fact remains that a team’s fifth DB now plays more than their third linebacker. With that comes a shift in focus when we consider the strength of cornerback situations around the NFL. No longer can you simply look at the strength of a starting pair—that third corner is an increasingly important cog in the defense.

Freshly armed with that knowledge, here’s a 1–32 ranking of every NFL CB corps; we’ve considered every team’s top three cornerbacks for our best projection of how each depth chart would likely line up if the season began today...

21. New Orleans Saints
Top CBs: Delvin Breaux, Keenan Lewis, Kyle Wilson

Key stat: Breaux surrendered 10 touchdowns into his coverage last season, a league-high.

You’ll struggle to find a corner with a more “Jekyll and Hyde” stat line than Delvin Breaux produced last season. He allowed less than 50 percent of passes targeted into his coverage to be completed (15 pass defenses), but a quarter of those 40 completions were converted into touchdowns. On the whole, 2015 was a strong season for Breaux, and while the returning Keenan Lewis will provide an enormous upgrade on Brandon Browner, he is yet to produce his form from his final season in Pittsburgh that would see this trio rise in the rankings.

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 July PreCamp 53-Man Roster Probables

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 - Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco

FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson

WR (2) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Ryker Mathews

LG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui

SR (3) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead, 14 - R.J. Harris


DEFENSE

SDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Kasim Edebali

DT (3) 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 90 - Nick Fairley, 93 - David Onyemata

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison

WDE (2) 98 - Bobby Richardson, 55 - Davis Tull, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar

RCB (3) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 27 - Damian Swann, 49 - De’Vante Harris

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 26 - Trae Elston

LCB (2) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 25 - P.J. Williams


KICKING

K (1) 5 - Kai Forbath

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher


INJURED OR RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen (NFIN)

*LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially designated IR nor IR-To Return

Projected Starter

Reserve/Injured

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 25, Defense - 25, Kicking - 3, Total Roster - 53

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Likely no room for Reggie Bush on Saints roster, Sean Payton tells Rich Eisen Show | Saints | theadvocate.com

“I’m sure he’s going to play this year,” Payton said in a Monday appearance on The Rich Eisen Show. “I don’t know if our roster is going to allow that right now.”

New Orleans already has plenty of options at the satellite back role Bush plays in Payton’s offense. C.J. Spiller is back and fully healthy, the Saints still have Travaris Cadet and New Orleans has spent two consecutive seventh-round picks on Marcus Murphy and Daniel Lasco, who both have the skill set to play the role.

Commentary: So Ingram is backed by Hightower and Spiller, Cadet, Murphy and Lasco compete for the ScatBack...

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How new additions on offense can help Saints within 10-yard line

BY NICK UNDERHILL | THE ADVOCATE
Nick Underhill
JUL 7, 2016 - 11:04 AM

The New Orleans Saints didn't have many issues on offense last year. But there was one play that highlighted one of the underrated, nagging obstacles the unit faced.

It came last fall against the Philadelphia Eagles. Operating from the 3-yard line, quarterback Drew Brees took the snap and faced immediate pressure. As things quickly closed in around him, he fled to the right side of the pocket and was eventually forced to toss the ball up and pray for the best.

The 6-foot-4 Marques Colston was in single coverage on the left side of the field in single coverage. Turning that way wasn't an option. His options to the right were Willie Snead and Brandin Cooks. He chose Snead.

It’s debatable if Brees ever saw his target, who was fighting through double coverage. But he tossed the ball up anyways, and it fell well beyond Snead in the back corner of the end zone. Colston might have had a shot at getting a hand on the ball with a well-timed jump, but not the 5-foot-11 Snead.

To call this a critical issue for the passing offense might be overstating things. Brees attempted 30 passes last season from 10 yards and in last season. Eleven of those resulted in touchdowns. However, he only completed 17 of his overall attempts, which is one of the lower percentages of his career.

The grading scale here might be harsh, but the efficiency could have been better. The Saints admit it, too...

Source: How new additions on offense can help Saints within 10-yard line | Saints | theadvocate.com

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 July PreCamp

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco

FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson, 39 - Sione Houma

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Ryker Mathews, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Cyril Lemon, 71 - Kaleb Eulls

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 74 - Tyrus Thompson, 67 - Avery Young

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen, 86 - Chris Manhertz

SR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead, 14 - R.J. Harris, 11 - Reggie Bell, 87 - TommyLee Lewis, 19 - Jake Lampmann


DEFENSE

SDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 91 - Kasim Edebali, 63 - Darryl Tapp, 77 - D.J. Pettway

DT (3) 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 90 - Nick Fairley, 93 - David Onyemata, 69 - C.J. Wilson

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 76 - Lawrence Virgil

WDE (2) 98 - Bobby Richardson, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 57 - Dillon Lee

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward

RCB (3) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 27 - Damian Swann, 29 - Tony Carter, 46 - Ken Crawley, 49 - De’Vante Harris

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 41 - Roman Harper

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 26 - Trae Elston, 42 - Alden Darby

LCB (3) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 25 - P.J. Williams, 20 - Brian Dixon, 37 - Brandon Dixon, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt


KICKING

K (1) 5 - Kai Forbath, 3 - Connor Barth

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 45 - Garrett Griffin


RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen (NFIN)

*LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially designated IR nor IR-To Return

Projected Starter

Reserve/Injured

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 43, Defense - 42, Kicking - 5, Total Roster - 90

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When is the first day in full gear? I didn't see it mentioned.

Edit: July 30. Sorry JP ... I need glasses :bugeyes:.

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Trying to get the roster cut down dates to 75 and 53...

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Wow...

RANKING ALL 32 NFL RUNNING BACK UNITS

Le'Veon Bell and the Pittsburgh Steelers grab the No. 1 spot in PFF's ranking of NFL RB units entering the 2016 season.

MIKE RENNER | 1 DAY AGO

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On the precipice of the 2016 season, the PFF analysis crew has teamed up to rank the league’s position groups from top to bottom. Up today are the running backs. There were no hard-and-fast guidelines, other than to give credence to the players most likely to receive carries, and to assume full health for all players. Without further ado, let’s see where each team ended up...

21. New Orleans Saints
Starter: Mark Ingram

Backups: C.J. Spiller, Daniel Lasco

Key stat: C.J. Spiller set the PFF record for elusive rating with the Bills in 2012 (94.6).

It’s sad how much injuries have turned C.J. Spiller from one of the most dynamic players in the NFL into an average third-down back. On 34 catches last season, Spiller broke just two tackles. Mark Ingram will likely see the bulk of the carries again, and his steadiness might be a tad underrated; 60 percent of his yards have come after contact the past four years.

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Cooks, Boldin, Snead, Thomas and Player to be named?

Plus the Tight Ends and ScatBacks - that would be potent...

I like Boldin in a share with the rookie Thomas, if he's okay with the role...

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despite all the love for the DT moves, the saints will need a DT that can fill the NT role better. yep doubling down on speed and quickness at DT is only good if you can bull rush with regularity. I do not see that on the roster.

If the saints think they have the next Muhammad Wilkerson, a DT that is so well rounded that he can play anywhere up front on the roster they will be disappointed. More importantly a DT has to have great instincts and a very high football IQ to work in this scheme. If not they will be trapped blocked right out of the dome. In all honesty this is what DA is going to try to do with the players he has.

DT (3) 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 90 - Nick Fairley, 93 - David Onyemata

Can Nick Fairley become the player he can be? I think he is his own worse enemy. Skill set is there but does he have the football IQ and instincts to handle this scheme? I say yes and blame lack of studying and too much living the high life. He become a self inflated fat cat after the draft. It all went to his head. Is he grounded and more importantly is he a player that shows up when contract time is right around the corner?

Sheldon is a sit back and see what we does player IMO. Over hyped or not? either way he should be a solid player.

Onyemata god only knows

Tyeler Davison and John Jenkins still have a lot to prove.

I am looking for Tyeler to over take Jenkins by seasons end if he can handle the mental part of the game. Once again DT need to be smart to make this scheme work. If not they will be trapped blocked right out of the dome.

John Jenkins time with saints might be over in 2017. improvement or need is his only hopes of staying.

So DT has plenty of questions to answer and plenty of players that are replaceable.

2017 returning players
DT (3) 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata
NT (2) 95 - Tyeler Davison,

90 - Nick Fairley is a huge talented question mark

By season end we will feel a bit better about DT but that is about it

1 - Do we cut our loses with Byrd and throw money at a Muhammad Wilkerson?

Issue is our own FA and is this the last year of Byrd. Can Vonn Bell replace Byrd or at the least can CB play step up enough to make Bell work as a FS? So safety is the a huge key. David Onyemata is a wild card here.

2 - So do you roll the dice in the draft?

Jonathan Allen, DE/DT, Alabama - a fav
Chris Wormley, DE/DT, Michigan - watch list

Both have that same kind of skill set and size of a Wilkerson.

I really do not see a True NT solution out there in FA or the draft at this time.

If you missed it

Is a DT Instincts/football IQ lacking in DA attacking defense?
That DT will be trapped blocked right out of the dome.

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Byrd? Last year? Quite possibly however I think he will be a very important piece in 2016 & get back to his play making ways. Our defense will be better (looking great on paper thus far), corner backs will be stronger, the D line is improved & the linebackers will be better.

With James L at the MIKE, I think guys will be aligned up & in position to make plays on a regular basis. IMO Byrd is still a play-maker. He will be better because our team defense will be much improved. As for Vonn .. he is fresh out of college & it will take time to transition. He is not at The Ohio State anymore but competition should be good.

I'm expecting big things from J Byrd this season.

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Love Love Love this thread!!! :bng:

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I fear a quick hitting run game at this point in time. if this is true then Laurinaitis will not be kept clean to make plays. The domino effect hits when Kenny is out of place on a play and leaving Byrd and Bell will asked to make a ton of tackles. that worries the hell out me. Open field enforcers is not exactly a strong suit of theirs.

If our FS are called upon to stop the run it will be a long season.

A true run stopping DT/NT needs to be found. That is why I have been beating the drum for years for a true NT. which brings me right back to my previous post.

Hoping and praying for the best.

I am not so hopeful. Even if Byrd is healthy and plays all 18 games I still do not see a SS on the team that complements his skill sets. Actually they all take him out of his game. Then again I have yet to see the new guys so I am not completely in the dumps.

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Could see some shoot and stunts whereby Rankins shoots a gap and Fairley or Jenkins or Jordan or other stunts behind as a cover - now that would be interesting...

Having Anthony's speed at the SAM and letting him read, react with his speed will definitely improve the exposure issues of the secondary in the run game...

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Stunts work well when a team respect your bull rushing skills. Bull rushing and run stuffing at DT at this point in time looks to be lacking. Stunting on a trap play is a death sentence.

Anthony at Sam? he too depends on the NT/DT play. you know the chain reaction down the DL.

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Wow, I'm much more optimistic about our front seven than I'm about our secondary, but PFF has other ideas - Saints Front Seven ranks 29th and the Secondary ranks 15th (guess they're really impressed with Del Breaux)...

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 July PreCamp

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco

FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson, 39 - Sione Houma

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Ryker Mathews, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Cyril Lemon, 71 - Kaleb Eulls

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 74 - Tyrus Thompson, 67 - Avery Young

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen, 86 - Chris Manhertz

SR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead, 14 - R.J. Harris, 11 - Reggie Bell, 87 - TommyLee Lewis, 19 - Jake Lampmann


DEFENSE

WDE (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 76 - Lawrence Virgil

DT (3) 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 90 - Nick Fairley, 93 - David Onyemata, 69 - C.J. Wilson

SDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 63 - Darryl Tapp, 77 - D.J. Pettway

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 57 - Dillon Lee

RCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 27 - Damian Swann, 29 - Tony Carter, 46 - Ken Crawley, 49 - De’Vante Harris

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 26 - Trae Elston, 42 - Alden Darby

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 41 - Roman Harper

LCB (3) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 25 - P.J. Williams, 20 - Brian Dixon, 37 - Brandon Dixon, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt


KICKING

K (1) 5 - Kai Forbath, 3 - Connor Barth

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 45 - Garrett Griffin


RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen (NFIN)

*LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially designated IR nor IR-To Return

Projected Starter

Reserve/Injured

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 43, Defense - 42, Kicking - 5, Total Roster - 90

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Adds to explanation for signing Darryl Tapp...

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I was expecting a little bit higher of a ranking than #21. Even with a young WR core.

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Well, the only two returning are Cooks, Snead; and then there's Coleman; so I can see despite adding Thomas and Fleener that they'll have to prove themselves...

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 July PreCamp

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco

FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson, 39 - Sione Houma

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Ryker Mathews, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Cyril Lemon, 71 - Kaleb Eulls

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 74 - Tyrus Thompson, 67 - Avery Young

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen, 86 - Chris Manhertz

SR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead, 14 - R.J. Harris, 11 - Reggie Bell, 87 - TommyLee Lewis, 19 - Jake Lampmann


DEFENSE

WDE (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 63 - Darryl Tapp, 77 - D.J. Pettway, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 76 - Lawrence Virgil

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 69 - C.J. Wilson

SDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 93 - David Onyemata

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

SLB (3) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 55 - Davis Tull, 57 - Dillon Lee

RCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 27 - Damian Swann, 29 - Tony Carter, 46 - Ken Crawley, 49 - De’Vante Harris

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 26 - Trae Elston, 42 - Alden Darby

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 41 - Roman Harper

LCB (3) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 25 - P.J. Williams, 20 - Brian Dixon, 37 - Brandon Dixon, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt


KICKING

K (1) 5 - Kai Forbath, 3 - Connor Barth

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 45 - Garrett Griffin


RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen (NFIN)

*LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially designated IR nor IR-To Return

Projected Starter

Reserve/Injured

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 43, Defense - 42, Kicking - 5, Total Roster - 90

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

At full health, I love this roster.

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

Three things that concern me...

First, get the Fleener signing; I've been banging the drum (e.g. Treadwell) about a big target being a key to extending drives on third down and converting drives into touchdowns is more important than the yards we've gained...

however, while I've no doubt Fleener will have some nice numbers, can he be trusted to win battles when we need those conversions?

Second, really like the "steath" linebacker free agent signings; think we'll see a greater improvement because of the football IQ and depth gained...

however, would we have been better signing LB Danny Trevathan than Fleener or found a creative way to sign Trevanthan as we did with Fairley?

Third, realistically we really only have three wide receivers on the roster and that includes the highly drafted unproven Michael Thomas...

however, there are still two quality depth signing veterans who could complement our WR corps in Hartline and Boldin and there's no movement to shore up that position...

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

JP I hear you brother but let's give our new draft pick Michael Thomas a chance. He is a big target , high football IQ and came from a solid program w/good coaches. Michael didn't get the "hype" because OSU isn't a pass first program (very conservative) like Ole Miss and Mr. Treadwell was.

With proper coaching, he will become a serious red zone target. The potential is there but I'll be surprised if Michael Thomas doesn't turn into a solid pro.

Side note - Fleener is going to ball out of control with Brees :bng:.

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 

To early to tell just yet. I am waiting to see
Who mans the slot?
Who will step up and help Cook get free?
Still waiting to see if the individual parts are better the whole?
Is Cook handicapped with this group yet again?

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater

WR (2) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead, Shane Wynn, Reggie Bell, R.J. Harris

Michael Thomas - I was not jumping up and down with the pick but I understand it and hope that the screwed up QB system at OSU was the issue that caused some of my concerns about his play. Route tree and press coverage are my main concerns, Eric Murray shut him down even giving up 4 inches. Feeling optimistic though and will sit back and give this kid the time he needs to develop.

Brandin Cooks I still have as a SP toy. They did not add enough speed to free him up IMO so as Thomas goes so does Cook.

Willie Snead - Is a pleasant surprise and hope for more improvement

Brandon Coleman - Can Brandon take another step in his game? Needs to improvement in running the route tree.

After that I have not seen a enough of the players to pass judgement.

21 is pretty honest and maybe a little generous. not by much though