Who is the new BnG dealer?

BlackandBlue · 03-17-2005, 02:29 PM

You FINALLY take a stand on SOMETHING. And when you do .. you try to say Horn is as good as Marvin Harrison.

That\'s funny. I\'ve never deterred from how I\'ve felt about anything on this site. At least I stick with the arguments I make, instead of changing my mind every 5 minutes. How\'s those flip-flop sales working for you?

PLEASE !! Marvin has a good chance to make the hall of fame. Wonder if ol\' Joe Horn does?

So now we\'re talking about Hall of Fame? What, have you been holding on to this \"gem\" waiting for the right time to use it? No ****
The probablility of Horn making the HoF is small. Harrison will go, no question. But it has nothing to do with Harrison being the better receiver. Not sure if you knew this, cause I\'m not sure how many Saints games you\'ve seen, but Horn had a late start to his career.

Just stop while you\'re not too far behind, BlackandBlue.

You\'re a joke, Gumbo. If I ever thought for one second that you had one-upped me on anything Saints related, I would throw myself from the roof of the Superdome. In case you\'re curious, that\'s the stadium where the Saints play their home games.

JKool · 03-17-2005, 02:34 PM

Joe\'s cap number this year is like 4.5 mil. This means if we signed him to a big deal, let\'s say 5 years and 45 mil. This would mean an increase in our cap number of about 4.5 mil this year plus Joe\'s bonus averaged over those years.

If we pay Joe, of course, Duece, Bentley, Brooks and Grant are going to wondering if we can pay them. With that kind of pay for Joe, we will only be able to pay ONE of those guys AT MOST, and we won\'t be able to pay them as though they were top 5 in their grouping (and, you\'ll note, on my suggestion Joe still won\'t be getting paid top five money).

If we let Joe play out his contract, and he puts up the same numbers, we will look bad next year when we can\'t afford him. If we pay Joe this year and he puts up the same numbers, we\'ll look like geniuses... up until we have to let one of our other studs go to keep him.

Now, of course, our cap number next year could fluctuate greatly, especially if we get a QB in the first round this year, but there is an important point here: if we pay Joe, do we increase the chance of hold-outs by Brooks and McAllister? Will we be able to pay guys like Bentley and Grant? Until someone answers that question, I\'m not sure why paying Joe his 4.5 mil this year (and working out his new contract over the course of the following season) isn\'t a bad idea?

GumboBC · 03-17-2005, 02:37 PM

BlackandBlue-

Hey, I\'m just saying you usually don\'t take a stand one way or the other on most issues. At least not from what I\'ve read. Hey, there\'s nothing wrong with that. That\'s your God given right to do so.

And I never try to one-up you, BlackandBlue. But when you start comparing Joe Horn to Marvin Harrison, you start to one-up yourself.

Why not compare Joe Horns stats to Jerry Rice? You can make the same arguement. Which is compeltely ridiculous.

Shall I continue?

JKool · 03-17-2005, 02:37 PM

PS - You guys need to demonstrate that you\'re joking with each other to the rest of the members, or take it down a notch.

:icon23:

... or I\'m going to start weilding my new found authority...

BlackandBlue · 03-17-2005, 02:49 PM

Statements like this make me think you\'re trying to discredit my name. I usually take a stance on most issues, but I rarely repeat myself over and over, because I don\'t see a point to it.

But when you start comparing Joe Horn to Marvin Harrison, you start to one-up yourself.

Why not compare Joe Horns stats to Jerry Rice? You can make the same arguement. Which is compeltely ridiculous.

So you think Harrison is on the same level as Rice? Interesting....

Shall I continue?

You continue all you want. You make statements, without backing it with anything, as usual. I point out a two touchdown game against Carolina two years ago, where he was playing on a bad leg, yet managed to make some spectacular catches, and had to be helped off the field afterwards. But please, continue with the empty statements. I feel like a cat with a ball of yarn.

GumboBC · 03-17-2005, 02:52 PM

Statements like this make me think you\'re trying to discredit my name.

Now, that\'s funny coming from you, BlackandBlue. Shall I go dig up ALL the posts where you attempted to make me look bad? You\'ve got to be kidding. You\'re not off limits. At least not your opinion.

You constantly try to discredit me, but you get offended when I say something about you? You\'re kidding, right?

BlackandBlue · 03-17-2005, 03:02 PM

Now, that\'s funny coming from you, BlackandBlue. Shall I go dig up ALL the posts where you attempted to make me look bad? You\'ve got to be kidding. You\'re not off limits. At least not your opinion.

You constantly try to discredit me, but you get offended when I say something about you? You\'re kidding, right?

If I thought people took you seriously, I would be offended, but I\'m not. I don\'t try and discredit your name, you do a decent job of that yourself, I just point to your posts, and ask the questions.

saintswhodi · 03-17-2005, 03:04 PM

Whoa JKool, when did that happen?

GumboBC · 03-17-2005, 03:08 PM

Now, that\'s funny coming from you, BlackandBlue. Shall I go dig up ALL the posts where you attempted to make me look bad? You\'ve got to be kidding. You\'re not off limits. At least not your opinion.

You constantly try to discredit me, but you get offended when I say something about you? You\'re kidding, right?

If I thought people took you seriously, I would be offended, but I\'m not. I don\'t try and discredit your name, you do a decent job of that yourself, I just point to your posts, and ask the questions.

Hey, BlackandBlue ... I wonder how many folks value your opinion? You seem to think pretty highly of it. Why, I have no idea. You\'re opinion means nothing more to me than many other guys on here.

I agree with you some and I disagree with you some. Just like I do most other folks on here.

And ... You know what? I really don\'t care what you think of my opinion. You want to go places that you really shouldn\'t be going. When you do that ... you get responses like you dish out. But, of course, I\'m sure that\'s what you wanted to begin with.

BlackandBlue · 03-17-2005, 03:18 PM

One thing we can both agree on, nobody here wants to read a pissing match between the two of us. I\'ve said how I feel, back it up with facts, and won\'t stray.

03-17-2005, 02:29 PM	#41
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Who is the new BnG dealer? You FINALLY take a stand on SOMETHING. And when you do .. you try to say Horn is as good as Marvin Harrison. That\'s funny. I\'ve never deterred from how I\'ve felt about anything on this site. At least I stick with the arguments I make, instead of changing my mind every 5 minutes. How\'s those flip-flop sales working for you? PLEASE !! Marvin has a good chance to make the hall of fame. Wonder if ol\' Joe Horn does? So now we\'re talking about Hall of Fame? What, have you been holding on to this \"gem\" waiting for the right time to use it? No **** The probablility of Horn making the HoF is small. Harrison will go, no question. But it has nothing to do with Harrison being the better receiver. Not sure if you knew this, cause I\'m not sure how many Saints games you\'ve seen, but Horn had a late start to his career. Just stop while you\'re not too far behind, BlackandBlue. You\'re a joke, Gumbo. If I ever thought for one second that you had one-upped me on anything Saints related, I would throw myself from the roof of the Superdome. In case you\'re curious, that\'s the stadium where the Saints play their home games.
	The waiting drove me mad.... I don't want to hear from those that know... Everything has changed, absolutely nothing's changed Eddie is a....draftnik?

03-17-2005, 02:34 PM	#42
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Who is the new BnG dealer? Joe\'s cap number this year is like 4.5 mil. This means if we signed him to a big deal, let\'s say 5 years and 45 mil. This would mean an increase in our cap number of about 4.5 mil this year plus Joe\'s bonus averaged over those years. If we pay Joe, of course, Duece, Bentley, Brooks and Grant are going to wondering if we can pay them. With that kind of pay for Joe, we will only be able to pay ONE of those guys AT MOST, and we won\'t be able to pay them as though they were top 5 in their grouping (and, you\'ll note, on my suggestion Joe still won\'t be getting paid top five money). If we let Joe play out his contract, and he puts up the same numbers, we will look bad next year when we can\'t afford him. If we pay Joe this year and he puts up the same numbers, we\'ll look like geniuses... up until we have to let one of our other studs go to keep him. Now, of course, our cap number next year could fluctuate greatly, especially if we get a QB in the first round this year, but there is an important point here: if we pay Joe, do we increase the chance of hold-outs by Brooks and McAllister? Will we be able to pay guys like Bentley and Grant? Until someone answers that question, I\'m not sure why paying Joe his 4.5 mil this year (and working out his new contract over the course of the following season) isn\'t a bad idea?
	"... I was beating them with my eyes the whole game..." - Aaron Brooks

03-17-2005, 02:37 PM	#43
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Who is the new BnG dealer? BlackandBlue- Hey, I\'m just saying you usually don\'t take a stand one way or the other on most issues. At least not from what I\'ve read. Hey, there\'s nothing wrong with that. That\'s your God given right to do so. And I never try to one-up you, BlackandBlue. But when you start comparing Joe Horn to Marvin Harrison, you start to one-up yourself. Why not compare Joe Horns stats to Jerry Rice? You can make the same arguement. Which is compeltely ridiculous. Shall I continue?
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616

03-17-2005, 02:37 PM	#44
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Who is the new BnG dealer? PS - You guys need to demonstrate that you\'re joking with each other to the rest of the members, or take it down a notch. :icon23: ... or I\'m going to start weilding my new found authority...

03-17-2005, 02:49 PM	#45
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Who is the new BnG dealer? Statements like this make me think you\'re trying to discredit my name. I usually take a stance on most issues, but I rarely repeat myself over and over, because I don\'t see a point to it. But when you start comparing Joe Horn to Marvin Harrison, you start to one-up yourself. Why not compare Joe Horns stats to Jerry Rice? You can make the same arguement. Which is compeltely ridiculous. So you think Harrison is on the same level as Rice? Interesting.... Shall I continue? You continue all you want. You make statements, without backing it with anything, as usual. I point out a two touchdown game against Carolina two years ago, where he was playing on a bad leg, yet managed to make some spectacular catches, and had to be helped off the field afterwards. But please, continue with the empty statements. I feel like a cat with a ball of yarn.
	The waiting drove me mad.... I don't want to hear from those that know... Everything has changed, absolutely nothing's changed Eddie is a....draftnik?

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03-17-2005, 02:52 PM	#46
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Who is the new BnG dealer? Statements like this make me think you\'re trying to discredit my name. Now, that\'s funny coming from you, BlackandBlue. Shall I go dig up ALL the posts where you attempted to make me look bad? You\'ve got to be kidding. You\'re not off limits. At least not your opinion. You constantly try to discredit me, but you get offended when I say something about you? You\'re kidding, right?
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03-17-2005, 03:02 PM	#47
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Who is the new BnG dealer? Now, that\'s funny coming from you, BlackandBlue. Shall I go dig up ALL the posts where you attempted to make me look bad? You\'ve got to be kidding. You\'re not off limits. At least not your opinion. You constantly try to discredit me, but you get offended when I say something about you? You\'re kidding, right? If I thought people took you seriously, I would be offended, but I\'m not. I don\'t try and discredit your name, you do a decent job of that yourself, I just point to your posts, and ask the questions.

03-17-2005, 03:04 PM	#48
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Who is the new BnG dealer? Whoa JKool, when did that happen?

03-17-2005, 03:08 PM	#49
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Who is the new BnG dealer? Now, that\'s funny coming from you, BlackandBlue. Shall I go dig up ALL the posts where you attempted to make me look bad? You\'ve got to be kidding. You\'re not off limits. At least not your opinion. You constantly try to discredit me, but you get offended when I say something about you? You\'re kidding, right? If I thought people took you seriously, I would be offended, but I\'m not. I don\'t try and discredit your name, you do a decent job of that yourself, I just point to your posts, and ask the questions. Hey, BlackandBlue ... I wonder how many folks value your opinion? You seem to think pretty highly of it. Why, I have no idea. You\'re opinion means nothing more to me than many other guys on here. I agree with you some and I disagree with you some. Just like I do most other folks on here. And ... You know what? I really don\'t care what you think of my opinion. You want to go places that you really shouldn\'t be going. When you do that ... you get responses like you dish out. But, of course, I\'m sure that\'s what you wanted to begin with.
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616

03-17-2005, 03:18 PM	#50
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	Who is the new BnG dealer? One thing we can both agree on, nobody here wants to read a pissing match between the two of us. I\'ve said how I feel, back it up with facts, and won\'t stray.